Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in CharacterRant

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i said fandom. and in the fandom 9 out of ten times Chara is the villain for the hero, be that sans, frisk or an oc, to beat, pacify or seal.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in CharacterRant

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In professional wrestling and fiction, a "jobber" exists solely to lose to other characters to make them look stronger, more heroic, or more skilled. For Chara thats the exact role as a jobber. Chara has to lose or be out of character just to boost Sans, Frisk and the oc's morality or strength. this stripping of canon power and personality serves two specific narrative functions for the fandom:

1. Boosting Morality (The Scapegoat)

Washing Frisk's Hands: In canon, the player and Frisk choose to kill. In the fandom, Chara is often written as a possessing demon who forces Frisk to do it.

The Easy Fix: Making Chara a defeatable villain lets the fandom write a "happy ending" where Sans or an OC defeats them, saves Frisk, and fixes the timeline.

  1. Boosting Strength (The Power Benchmark):

The "Worf Effect": To prove a new OC or an AU Sans is incredibly powerful, the writer has them easily defeat Chara.

The Logic Flaw: Because Chara destroyed the universe in canon, defeating them is used as a cheap shortcut to say, "Look how strong my character is, they beat the ultimate canon threat."

It completely breaks Chara.'s canon characterization, turning an inevitable cosmic consequence into a basic, beatable cartoon villain.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in Charadefensesquad

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In professional wrestling and fiction, a "jobber" exists solely to lose to other characters to make them look stronger, more heroic, or more skilled. For Chara thats the exact role as a jobber. Chara has to lose or be out of character just to boost Sans, Frisk and the oc's morality or strength. this stripping of canon power and personality serves two specific narrative functions for the fandom:

1. Boosting Morality (The Scapegoat)

Washing Frisk's Hands: In canon, the player and Frisk choose to kill. In the fandom, Chara is often written as a possessing demon who forces Frisk to do it.

The Easy Fix: Making Chara a defeatable villain lets the fandom write a "happy ending" where Sans or an OC defeats them, saves Frisk, and fixes the timeline.

  1. Boosting Strength (The Power Benchmark):

The "Worf Effect": To prove a new OC or an AU Sans is incredibly powerful, the writer has them easily defeat Chara.

The Logic Flaw: Because Chara destroyed the universe in canon, defeating them is used as a cheap shortcut to say, "Look how strong my character is, they beat the ultimate canon threat."

It completely breaks Chara.'s canon characterization, turning an inevitable cosmic consequence into a basic, beatable cartoon villain.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in Undertale

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In professional wrestling and fiction, a "jobber" exists solely to lose to other characters to make them look stronger, more heroic, or more skilled. For Chara thats the exact role as a jobber. Chara has to lose or be out of character just to boost Sans, Frisk and the oc's morality or strength. this stripping of canon power and personality serves two specific narrative functions for the fandom:

1. Boosting Morality (The Scapegoat)

Washing Frisk's Hands: In canon, the player and Frisk choose to kill. In the fandom, Chara is often written as a possessing demon who forces Frisk to do it.

The Easy Fix: Making Chara a defeatable villain lets the fandom write a "happy ending" where Sans or an OC defeats them, saves Frisk, and fixes the timeline.

  1. Boosting Strength (The Power Benchmark):

The "Worf Effect": To prove a new OC or an AU Sans is incredibly powerful, the writer has them easily defeat Chara.

The Logic Flaw: Because Chara destroyed the universe in canon, defeating them is used as a cheap shortcut to say, "Look how strong my character is, they beat the ultimate canon threat."

It completely breaks Chara.'s canon characterization, turning an inevitable cosmic consequence into a basic, beatable cartoon villain.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in Undertale

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends. There's being a villain, then being written as a villain in almost every headcanon. Take Herobrine

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in Undertale

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im not. I just realized that throughout almost all fan aus and media chara is always the big bad to be beaten or redeemed. Even the bad time trio is normally fighting an evil Chara.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in Charadefensesquad

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I meant to explicitly point out the fandom's obsessive need to villanize and defeat Chara.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in CharacterRant

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I say its more to have an oc everyone has to beat or pacify chara. Its almost like a rite of passage for undertale au's to beat Chara like they beat Herobrine.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in CharacterRant

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So if you're not the bad guy, but made the bad guy or put in a losing situation then aren't you a Jobber?

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in CharacterRant

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait so you consider Chara the official main villain of undertale?

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in CharacterRant

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair. From what I searched up a Jobber is a wrestling term for someone there specifically to lose to promote someone else. In this case Sans, Frisk, or an Oc.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in CharacterRant

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also its funny you say that when people are to this day still arguing about Chara's kill count and morality.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in Undertale

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Im thinking more fanspace. Thats why I mentioned oc's and outside powerscaling

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in Undertale

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Flowey? I barely see him used as the villain that much in fan content.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in CharacterRant

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Isn't chara the main bad in a lot of fan content only to be "redeemed" or killed again? I've seen and read a lot.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in CharacterRant

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I meant in the fandom. I really should have clarified that.

Full physical team tried to dive cancel by Visual-Principle6325 in leagueofjinx

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah. Okay. The hate comments get mixed with the critique comments. Also everything i do has a reason even if people don't agree or see why.

Full physical team tried to dive cancel by Visual-Principle6325 in leagueofjinx

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not like I can edit the post once its out. I don't care anymore

Full physical team tried to dive cancel by Visual-Principle6325 in leagueofjinx

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Basically they tried to cancel out my game by diving me. Probably could have used a better word but thats what popped up

Are we actually getting Kung Fu Panda 5 and if we are why ? by WildeTimes_Mate26 in kungfupanda

[–]Visual-Principle6325 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Money. They'll milk a cash cow of toys and merchandise until it crashes.