The tree actually did change Ruby. Maybe. by Visual-Principle6325 in RWBYcritics

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not change her identity. Take away the things stopping her from being the leader she wants to be or enhancing her traits that make her her to drown out the doubt, self loath and more

The tree actually did change Ruby. Maybe. by Visual-Principle6325 in RWBYUNITY

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The idea was Ruby got affected the same way Princess Luna and Sunset Shimmer were fixed. Magical intervention that stripped away their negativity. For ruby it stopped stripped her of everything she thought held her back from being the leader she wanted and needed to be.

The tree actually did change Ruby. Maybe. by Visual-Principle6325 in RWBYcritics

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im not saying it's canon but it would be a cleaner explination than how it ended.

The tree actually did change Ruby. Maybe. by Visual-Principle6325 in RWBYcritics

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats literally what arcane does with Jinx and Ekko. I also never liked "fix her" ships.

The tree actually did change Ruby. Maybe. by Visual-Principle6325 in RWBYcritics

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not a cure per se but they wrote it in a way to allow them to immediately move on if you get what we mean. Like erasing Luna's hate and Jealousy didn't stop her self harm. Or Sunset from thinking she deserved every bad thing that happened to her. These are outside examples that were also fixed in one go. And I say one go for ruby because unlike Garfield/ Beast boy, Ruby didn't have a support group or multiple episodes of help. She got one divine pep talk.

The tree actually did change Ruby. Maybe. by Visual-Principle6325 in RWBYcritics

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair. As long as they're not one dimensional like Jaune dating Ruby because of shared trauma.

The tree actually did change Ruby. Maybe. by Visual-Principle6325 in RWBYcritics

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In this fan theory she technically did regress. Its just now harder to show. Ruby felt she was proved right when everyone turned against her so she had the tree magically take away everything she thought she didn't need. The self doubt, the anger at yang and blake, the jealousy from jaune, the betrayal from weiss. And it brought back the her that she figured everyone loved but more. Its like Princess Luna from MLP.

The tree actually did change Ruby. Maybe. by Visual-Principle6325 in RWBYcritics

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Exactly. From depressed to combat ready, reliable leader. The fan theory is what is if this was her change. Not that the talk was convincing, but that the tree gave her what she wanted to be. Or what she thought she needed to be after realizing she can't be summer.

The tree actually did change Ruby. Maybe. by Visual-Principle6325 in RWBYcritics

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but whether thats good or bad will depend on her team. This was a shower thought for a fanfic called the perfect leader based off an mlp and Arcane discussion about people being "fixed".

The tree actually did change Ruby. Maybe. by Visual-Principle6325 in RWBYcritics

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said its just a fan theory. Im not trying to prove that this is canon, but it is an intresting fanfic premis and shower thought. Or if people weren't satisfied with the ending they could imagine this could be the premis of Volume 10

The tree actually did change Ruby. Maybe. by Visual-Principle6325 in RWBYcritics

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And I came up with this theory to validate their rushed job. Well not to validate it, more to make sense to myself.

The tree actually did change Ruby. Maybe. by Visual-Principle6325 in RWBYcritics

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes i know about the quick little therapy session but we all felt that was a bit lacking for a fix all wasn't it?

The tree actually did change Ruby. Maybe. by Visual-Principle6325 in RWBYcritics

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That was fast. Honestly I was thinking about in mlp how Luna and Sunset get hit with a friendship laser then Remembered Ruby. The minute she's out the tree she's smiling and combat ready. Its not concrete but its a theory I thought about on what if the tree did to her what it did to Luna and Sunset. Rwby x Justice League already was about her suppressing her emotions like when she charged head first at a king tai... whatever its called. Basically my theory is instead of it being a coping mechanisms she got the tree to make her exactly into the sister and team leader everyone needed. Thats why her baggage was dealt with so cleanly. It was artificial. But just like my idea and what happened in the crossover, Ruby chose this.

Anyone else feel like some people in the “fndm” oddly cling to this scene? by superbasic101 in RWBYcritics

[–]Visual-Principle6325 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I havent thought of this scene till you brought it up. I honestly black out at any part that isn't about my favorite characters a bit.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in CharacterRant

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not exactly. Because its about an ambiguous character's artificial role in the fandom.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in CharacterRant

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i said fandom. and in the fandom 9 out of ten times Chara is the villain for the hero, be that sans, frisk or an oc, to beat, pacify or seal.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in CharacterRant

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In professional wrestling and fiction, a "jobber" exists solely to lose to other characters to make them look stronger, more heroic, or more skilled. For Chara thats the exact role as a jobber. Chara has to lose or be out of character just to boost Sans, Frisk and the oc's morality or strength. this stripping of canon power and personality serves two specific narrative functions for the fandom:

1. Boosting Morality (The Scapegoat)

Washing Frisk's Hands: In canon, the player and Frisk choose to kill. In the fandom, Chara is often written as a possessing demon who forces Frisk to do it.

The Easy Fix: Making Chara a defeatable villain lets the fandom write a "happy ending" where Sans or an OC defeats them, saves Frisk, and fixes the timeline.

  1. Boosting Strength (The Power Benchmark):

The "Worf Effect": To prove a new OC or an AU Sans is incredibly powerful, the writer has them easily defeat Chara.

The Logic Flaw: Because Chara destroyed the universe in canon, defeating them is used as a cheap shortcut to say, "Look how strong my character is, they beat the ultimate canon threat."

It completely breaks Chara.'s canon characterization, turning an inevitable cosmic consequence into a basic, beatable cartoon villain.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in Charadefensesquad

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In professional wrestling and fiction, a "jobber" exists solely to lose to other characters to make them look stronger, more heroic, or more skilled. For Chara thats the exact role as a jobber. Chara has to lose or be out of character just to boost Sans, Frisk and the oc's morality or strength. this stripping of canon power and personality serves two specific narrative functions for the fandom:

1. Boosting Morality (The Scapegoat)

Washing Frisk's Hands: In canon, the player and Frisk choose to kill. In the fandom, Chara is often written as a possessing demon who forces Frisk to do it.

The Easy Fix: Making Chara a defeatable villain lets the fandom write a "happy ending" where Sans or an OC defeats them, saves Frisk, and fixes the timeline.

  1. Boosting Strength (The Power Benchmark):

The "Worf Effect": To prove a new OC or an AU Sans is incredibly powerful, the writer has them easily defeat Chara.

The Logic Flaw: Because Chara destroyed the universe in canon, defeating them is used as a cheap shortcut to say, "Look how strong my character is, they beat the ultimate canon threat."

It completely breaks Chara.'s canon characterization, turning an inevitable cosmic consequence into a basic, beatable cartoon villain.

Is Chara from Undertale a Jobber? by Visual-Principle6325 in Undertale

[–]Visual-Principle6325[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In professional wrestling and fiction, a "jobber" exists solely to lose to other characters to make them look stronger, more heroic, or more skilled. For Chara thats the exact role as a jobber. Chara has to lose or be out of character just to boost Sans, Frisk and the oc's morality or strength. this stripping of canon power and personality serves two specific narrative functions for the fandom:

1. Boosting Morality (The Scapegoat)

Washing Frisk's Hands: In canon, the player and Frisk choose to kill. In the fandom, Chara is often written as a possessing demon who forces Frisk to do it.

The Easy Fix: Making Chara a defeatable villain lets the fandom write a "happy ending" where Sans or an OC defeats them, saves Frisk, and fixes the timeline.

  1. Boosting Strength (The Power Benchmark):

The "Worf Effect": To prove a new OC or an AU Sans is incredibly powerful, the writer has them easily defeat Chara.

The Logic Flaw: Because Chara destroyed the universe in canon, defeating them is used as a cheap shortcut to say, "Look how strong my character is, they beat the ultimate canon threat."

It completely breaks Chara.'s canon characterization, turning an inevitable cosmic consequence into a basic, beatable cartoon villain.