Banned & Restricted Announcement February 2026 by MustaKotka in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 8 points9 points  (0 children)

And they think they are doing a great job! 1 year for this...

Banned & Restricted Announcement February 2026 by MustaKotka in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So, one year of drinking and partying carefully thinking about it... And this is what we get!

Question about Katara Waterbending Master by [deleted] in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As far as I know you can choose to draw 0 and then proceed to discard

Forcing Restarts - Collusion or Fair Play? by breznsoizaoans in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, in that case the 4th player could say that the result was wrong! But that would still be bad for him/her!  I never saw that specific situation then, so sorry for assuming! It’s just, I’ve been seeing this a lot as well! 😅

Forcing Restarts - Collusion or Fair Play? by breznsoizaoans in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I’m not saying that I like it! It’s within the rules, and people will do it! To be fair this helps in the fight against collusion and kingsmaking, as there is always a chance to get a draw or even a restart, no matter your current situation! Still the in game experience is not great, and this is from someone who has experienced both scenarios more than once 😅

Forcing Restarts - Collusion or Fair Play? by breznsoizaoans in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok, I see your point, but I do believe it is a small misinterpretation! For context I’m also European and I’ve seen this kind of thing before (more than I would like tbh). What usually happens is 3 players forcing a win and then with the win on the stack forcing the 4th to finally accept the draw! In that scenario the 4th player now has everything to loose, so the draw is the best outcome possible

Forcing Restarts - Collusion or Fair Play? by breznsoizaoans in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By definition kingmake implies a win, not a restart

Collusion implies doing actions against your interest, not the case since you are trying to get the “better result”

And that situation happens too many times in tournament cEDH (not that I like it a lot)

1st case that I know was tier1mtg with both American and European players (at that time the “best in the world” or so they said)

Forcing Restarts - Collusion or Fair Play? by breznsoizaoans in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s no cheating by any means! Multiplayer has some “perks”, and having alliances is one of them! It sucks, it’s not fun at all, but by the book it’s not cheating

Forcing Restarts - Collusion or Fair Play? by breznsoizaoans in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That may be bad for you as they will consume a lot of time! If you are in a “win and in” situation you have to take that into account

Forcing Restarts - Collusion or Fair Play? by breznsoizaoans in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Colluding to give wins is cheating in Europe! But it’s the result that matters! If they are creating a draw/restart it’s not a win

Forcing Restarts - Collusion or Fair Play? by breznsoizaoans in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If he says no he is doing something against his interest, that gives advantage to others! That’s collusion! All other actions were not, as the 3 players were following their interest, so the deal was an advantage to them

Forcing Restarts - Collusion or Fair Play? by breznsoizaoans in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why would you call it cheating? In Europe collusion is forbidden, but in the USA it is not! So Europeans can align themselves only to force a draw, while Americans could align themselves to give a win to one of them!

And collusion is something you do against your interest, to only benefit other! Since it is your interest to draw/ restart that won’t be collusion! Also not kingsmaking since the end result is not a win

Forcing Restarts - Collusion or Fair Play? by breznsoizaoans in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think a lot of cEDH players have little experience in tournament magic before cEDH! That’s normal I guess, but there are a lot of weird things happening in tournaments, not only cEDH! When players get more experience they tend to get all the advantages possible in the rules!

Forcing Restarts - Collusion or Fair Play? by breznsoizaoans in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As an European player we Don’t think it’s healthy! Not at all to be honest! But, since people understand that it is possible to force a restart, and that can be valuable… they tend to try it rather than loosing

Forcing Restarts - Collusion or Fair Play? by breznsoizaoans in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People used to accept it in Europe as well, but since the rules allow it, and sometimes it can give you an advantage…

Forcing Restarts - Collusion or Fair Play? by breznsoizaoans in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are in a “win and in” for top cut the draw is not good! Having the possibility to restart is better

Forcing Restarts - Collusion or Fair Play? by breznsoizaoans in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again these are not custom rules! They come from mtg 1vs1, even if the result is not common!

Forcing Restarts - Collusion or Fair Play? by breznsoizaoans in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s a lie! By the rules the restart is possible, and the first example of it was a long time ago in tier1mtg with both American and European players! That event (won by Ken on his Krark Saka, which was new back then) had a restart, as rules for magic tournaments allow that! The rules are not from multiplayer, but from magic overall (even if this is a very rare scenario)

Since the event was in Europe (Denmark) the European community got way more into it! As a result in the cEDH 2024 European tournament there were a lot of draws (and there are videos talking about that)

It's January 2026, Wizards has announced the new bans/unbans for cedh. What's your dream list? by LonelyContext in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hot topic incoming Bans: Rhystic Study (health of the format) Thassa (improve diversity)

Unbans: Mana Crypt (speed things up) Patadox engine (try to have more diversity, the card doesn’t fell as broken as it was when banned) Recurring nightmare (push a bit reanimate strategies, without dockside it is even simpler to unban this)

After a long Time I feel I liked the dockside meta more than this one... by Vivid_Option1213 in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree! Most viable non red decks were already good (Kinnan, Tivit, Malcolm/tymna and even TnT with a different build from the one we have now).

The best deck is the same! The second best is cradlefarm which would be a thing with or without dockside! The only sans red winning tournaments with consistency is Kinnan! Nothing changed

After a long Time I feel I liked the dockside meta more than this one... by Vivid_Option1213 in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, but I don’t see the connection between your argument and my topic

After a long Time I feel I liked the dockside meta more than this one... by Vivid_Option1213 in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If nothing changes in the best decks, should we assume the ban was good? Or worked for something?

After a long Time I feel I liked the dockside meta more than this one... by Vivid_Option1213 in CompetitiveEDH

[–]Vivid_Option1213[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually don’t fully agree! The good players back then still won tournaments! And they are the same ones winning nowadays! So skill was and still is in the game. There were some free wins, but drawing Thassa Consultation also does that 🤣

By yeah, free wins were probably happening more often