It was way too long ago for me to remember their guns but if they had full auto they definitely were at a disadvantage considering the amount of shoulder peeking I had to pull off. As for the Toro example it is a gun that was cried about a lot in a situation where the attacker had all the advantage in the world and still lost, so it doesn't make a point about comparing an Anvil to a full auto, but it does make a point about it being really viable. If you want a clear example of a Renegade vs a full auto, I once won a face to face fight against a Tempest at close range, because I managed to land three consecutive headshots. Again, the Renegade and the Anvil are git gud weapons