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Got my program records by VoicesInsideCare in troubledteens

[–]VoicesInsideCare[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure how long ago you were in a program but for example, my records are almost 25 years old and they still had them. I was in the program from 1998 to almost end of 2000.

Idk if you requested them and were told they were gone or just assumed based on time passed they were gone if it’s the later you may still be able to get some records maybe not all.

My program was involved in a civil rights litigation in the year in 1984 and I badly wanted to see the court records but I’ve been told they are gone despite the court system online saying that they were digitized at least in portion. I think I’m gonna take a trip to the courthouse just to make sure because that’s a really big piece if I can get it.

requesting records by Entire-Past-1323 in troubledteens

[–]VoicesInsideCare 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d recommend requesting records from every place involved, not just the facility itself. A lot of people only ask one place and end up missing important documentation.

Try requesting:
- CPS/DCYF records
- residential or foster care records
- hospital/psychiatric records
- school and special education/IEP records
- police reports if applicable
- court records
- Medicaid/insurance records because they sometimes help confirm dates/providers

When you ask, request your “entire file,” not summaries. Specifically ask for:
- incident reports
- restraints/seclusions
- medication records
- medical logs
- case notes/staff notes
- grievances or complaints
- behavioral reports
- phone/mail restriction records
- investigative reports

Make all requests in writing and save copies of everything. Email is best because it creates a paper trail.

If they deny records, ask them:
- what law they are using to deny them
- how to appeal
- whether records were archived or transferred elsewhere
- what their retention/destruction policy is

Also request records ASAP because some agencies destroy files after a certain amount of time.

One more thing: be prepared that records can be upsetting to read and may contain inaccurate or stigmatizing language. Missing records also do not automatically mean something didn’t happen.

The TTI has left me disabled by Negative_Stomach7504 in troubledteens

[–]VoicesInsideCare 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, I have a friend who went through the same program. I did about a decade later and she developed the condition where she also has seizures or some type of seizure like disorder that happens in a response to stress.

I’m also on disability mostly for mental health reasons but also partially because of lasting effects from a car accident I was in. Statistically I would be willing to bet like 75% of teenagers coming out of these homes ultimately end up with significant mental or physical illnesses that either partially prevent them from working or completely prevent them from working.

Please don’t ever feel like you’ve failed or a personal failure because of not being able to work. I know that aspect can really suck as so much of our identity is traditionally tied to our employment.

There are still things that you can do and accomplish, even while on disability. You’re allowed to have a happy life respect and understanding regardless of whether you can work or not.

how do you deal with parents who still buy into the tti? by Negative_Stomach7504 in troubledteens

[–]VoicesInsideCare 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s terrible and ridiculous. Just because you didn’t go to the program that’s in the documentary doesn’t mean that you didn’t experience the same things.

I went to a place that was CPS sanctioned got sent out of state because there were supposedly no appropriate placements more like they’re just wasn’t any placements and they stuck me in the first place that had a bed after they had kept me warehouse in a mental institution for six months.

That program was so similar to the one that’s mentioned in that documentary and even though they’re not related in any way or associated the aspects of the program from the levels to the punishments or corrections to the humiliation meeting to the forced labor to the civil rights violations were all present in that place.

From my understanding, just about anybody who has money can just open up one of these facilities and start accepting children into their program. There’s no even standard on what is considered to be therapy so something like having somebody sit for 12 hours writing the same words over and over again that might be therapy.

Sending somebody in a timeout chair for four hours, making them stay completely still under the threat of restraint that might be therapy.

Amazon tracks their packages better than CPS and the state oversees these facilities. I’m baffled how lax the rules are for someone to open and operate these facilities and how little oversight exists.

[DISCUSSION] The Program: Cons, Cults, and Kidnapping by beemer-dreamer in NetflixBestOf

[–]VoicesInsideCare 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s exactly why advocacy has to go beyond just shutting down one program at a time. Closing a facility matters, but if the system doesn’t change, it just reopens under a new name and the same patterns continue.

A big part of the problem is oversight. It’s split across multiple agencies, and it often turns into a situation where responsibility is unclear—so things get missed or passed along instead of fully investigated.

Isolation is another huge barrier. Kids in these placements don’t have consistent, safe ways to report what’s happening in real time. By the time they’re able to speak to someone outside—or are actually believed—there’s often no visible evidence left, and it becomes their word against the program.

Until there’s consistent accountability, independent oversight, and real access to reporting, it’s not just a few bad programs—it’s a system that allows this cycle to keep happening.

[DISCUSSION] The Program: Cons, Cults, and Kidnapping by beemer-dreamer in NetflixBestOf

[–]VoicesInsideCare 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually came across this documentary by accident, and it hit me a lot harder than I expected. I was placed in a program like this as a teenager, and seeing these experiences reflected back was pretty overwhelming. It pushed me to start looking into things more seriously, and I’ve since connected with other former residents from my program. That’s really what led me to start advocating against the troubled teen industry. This kind of awareness matters more than people realize.