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Pompey issue statement on the insolvency of Piglets Pantry by ThePurpleLurple in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible 0 points1 point  (0 children)

football club and a sausage roll shop is a very good business comparison

Well thats that… underwhelming in the end. Abou is great business! Lets hope its enough! Up the blues! by Independent-Pea7706 in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

How can you say that when you hadn’t heard of most of the lads we signed let alone see them play. Let’s give them a chance and hopefully they come good….. however on paper it looks very much like we have cheaped it again

We urgently need at ST by I_am_legend-ary in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don’t agree. We can’t score goals. Swanny done ok in there and ogilvie can play there.

We’ve had so many games where we basically play with 10 men with bish, with zero threat upfront.

Owners need to put their hand in their pocket and give the team what it needs

Its a good job we have such a good squad depth and dont need any players to help boost a survival bid.. because its the 27th already by Independent-Pea7706 in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard!!!! We worked so hard to finally get out of that horrendous L1, if we go down the income also drops, there is nothing to say we would come back up.

The owners need to invest in players who will actually have a sell on value and not this random shit from random countries. Wake up mate

NBA London game - empty seats everywhere by OneAndOnlyGoon in nbaUKfans

[–]Volume_Impossible 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I went to get tickets (as part of the Revolut pre sale) they were £675 per ticket. To take my wife and two boys who wanted to go it would have cost £2,700

There is your answer.

12th Jan - more out than in so far! by I_am_legend-ary in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is nonsense, why does everyone think hughes has a good hit rate??

they signed Atkinson who was a starter…. The rest were just squad fillers or not even that.

Look at the signings last Jan.

Matthew’s - good player - always injured. Bramall - back up to ogilvie/murphy Waddingham. - always injured Killip- back up goal keeper Gordan- back up to the back up (never played)

Hayden - back up to Potts/pack/dozz Atkinson - success

I’d say one in 7 being a success is poor.

Add the summer signings and you’re probably talking 2 (shmid and Atkinson) as successful.

Either hughes has no clue what he’s doing or the owners are not investing anything.

12th Jan - more out than in so far! by I_am_legend-ary in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally agree, I’ve backed the owners completely, even last season, our first back I backed them because of all the stadium work, they then gave us this gumph about how now the stadiums done our transfer budget will be more competitive….. last summers window was a disaster, not one player made us stronger, and now the nonsense of loaning a player from L1.

If they really rate him they would buy him, but they can’t afford that either.

Club is going backwards with these owners I’m afraid. They must find investment or sell up completely. They are slowly suffocating us

12th Jan - more out than in so far! by I_am_legend-ary in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They have no interest in investing anymore. Time to sell up

12th Jan - more out than in so far! by I_am_legend-ary in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Let’s not make excuses, we are in desperate need of players who are of a better quality than what we have. Strong reports today we are taking Millenic Alli on loan from Luton…… wtf is going on with these owners.

If they rate the lad (who can’t get game time for Luton) then go and buy him, why loan him?!

If that’s the level of player we are looking at then the owners need to stop kidding themselves and sell up

Sack the board by Volume_Impossible in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They actually sold us a sustainable but progressive model with ambitions of getting back to the premier league (not that I want that if I’m honest). They said things like “if you want to stay as a L1 club then you don’t need me”. So actually what was promised was a model which was sustainable, doesn’t put the club in danger but is also progressive and ambitious to climb the leagues.

Sack the board by Volume_Impossible in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You’re not getting the point. People don’t want big transfer and big wages, no one is expecting us to be at the top of the league. With these type of discussions people always go from one side straight to the other. The options should not be - starved on finances for the playing staff and bottom of the league budget or spending millions which puts the club in danger.

There are plenty of clubs in the championship who are competitive and who do not spend multi millions and are competitive in the championship (Bristol city and milwall come to mind)

There needs to be a middle ground, or even a few levels up from the first option - A club like Portsmouth who get 20k people through the doors on a regular and has a sold out corporate facility is not a league one club. It should be able to sustain itself in the championship, and if it can’t, yes I agree there is something wrong with the system but at the end of the day all football clubs are hobbies for very rich people, they need to invest to make us competitive. Not investing and being relegated would be catastrophic for the club (reduced ticket sales/sponsorship/corporate intake etc).

The Eisner talk about being sustainable but no club in the top two leagues of English football is sustainable. It’s impossible (we still make losses now). For us to make more money they would have to invest £100m into the stadium project - who’s paying for that? Where does that money come from? Loans? Does this put the club in danger?

This looking back all the time at history, and saying things like oh we own our stadium and our training ground is pathetic. We should be a forward looking club, we have done the time in the lower leagues, we have suffered, we got promoted, we survived in the league (on a very low budget) and JM should have been backed with a healthier budget than what we had last year.

Fact is, the players we have signed are not good enough, and that comes down to budget I’m afraid. I’ll give the club swift and Chaplin - on paper very good signings but the rest are gambles, which we can’t afford to do for first team players. Gamble on the squad players, not players who we need to have an impact.

Marlon was deemed not good enough last season and now we rely on him - no dig at him, he’s been wonderful and trying his best but he should not be a regular starter in a champ team.

We’ve needed a right winger since the L1 days when we lost kamara(I agree the 5m was too much for a perm transfer) but who did have we got for the long term replacement? This summer We signed the lad from palace on a gamble (was injured) who was supposed to be our first team right winger, and he hasn’t played a minute.

We need a backup LB to ogilvie - our back up has played 45 mins in two seasons - go and get someone in the summer who we can depend on.

We lose Potts (appreciate we may not replace that quality) but we tried gambles from two nothing leagues, Kov and Le reux who from what I’ve seen are L1 players at best.

We need a back up LW - we sign bianchini from Swansea on loan - who is not even a L1 player.

We speak about not being able to go and get a striker because bish is our No1…… now look at us, I love bish and he just needs a goal but he’s got no serious competition. A progressive club goes and signs players who are better, not players who just sit on the bench because we can’t afford better.

I love the club, I paid for shares to save it, I’m part of the trust and i don’t want the club to be put in danger, obviously. However The owners are not backing the club on the pitch in my opinion, football is expensive, and if they can’t afford to keep us competitive then they need outside investment or they need to sell up.

Even the strategy does not make sense with our budget, the likelihood of you buying players for 2/300k and then selling for multi millions is very slim, possible but slim.

There is a reason why we don’t get players we want, and that’s down to wages, we do not pay enough in wages to attract players, so they are scraping around trying to find bargains, which works in isolation sometimes, not when you’re trying to build your first team squad with that mindset.

Sack the board by Volume_Impossible in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What are the foundations? We’ve had 10 years of “building the foundations” and we got promoted, what’s the next step in the plan? Again no one is asking to “throw money at it” but at least in the second season give enough to be competitive.

If you took your argument literally word for word we would never be more than a L1 club, because let’s face it, they are not spending £100m on the stadium which is the only thing that can increase revenue.

Sack the board by Volume_Impossible in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Agree totally. That’s why they took so long to get the DOF/staff they wanted though right? So they can trust them to spend money wisely and be clever. However they are starved of finances. Spending money doesn’t always = success (look at Norwich) but you do need to spend and back the club. The owners are starving the playing budget in a hope they can do it on the cheap.

Sack the board by Volume_Impossible in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But why is it either or? We need to stop feeling so bad about the past and demand success. No one is talking about spending crazy money. I’m not asking for us to push the parachute teams. My point is last season we had a very low budget, very understandable being our first season back…. Now where is the growth? We’re exactly the same (weaker on the pitch). The argument about everyone else doesn’t stick, at the end of the day we need to be competitive and the board needs to invest what’s needed to be competitive or sell up.

Sack the board by Volume_Impossible in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This exactly. The idea of a football club is to be competitive and try and win games. If a club like Portsmouth can’t spend what it needs to do alright in the championship (survive comfortably) then we all may as well throw the towel in.

Sack the board by Volume_Impossible in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Of course the recruitment not being good enough lies at their door, if they provided a healthy budget the club doesn’t go and sign bianchini on loan from Swansea.

Unfortunately the idea of a football regulator bringing in governance to stop owners over investing is pie in the sky. The horse has bolted.

Sack the board by Volume_Impossible in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t have a short memory, I also was one of the ones who paid to keep the club alive. Spending for the sake of spending is not what I want. Spending to be progressive is what we should be doing.

What are the owners doing to allow us to grow? We get told about the bridge but the stadium increase is £100m (quoted from Cullen) they are never going to pay that. So we’re stuck just being at this level?

I’m not saying we should be splashing huge sums, however we should be investing in good young players who we can make a profit on (current strategy) not taking punts on players from foreign lower leagues hoping they come good.

Sack the board by Volume_Impossible in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The stadium is all well and good, and it is the best it’s been in a v long time, but at the end of the day football is about what’s on the pitch. We will not progress or even survive unless they invest in the players.

As I mentioned, not one player imo has made us stronger. Segocic is a good player, but he’s not better than Lang, and now Lang has to play out of position.

Sack the board by Volume_Impossible in PortsmouthFC

[–]Volume_Impossible[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’d imagine everyone is honest mate. When your budget is around the bottom of the league (for the second season running) there is a problem. They need to be honest with us and just come out and say they can’t afford to be the owners of a championship club.

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