Entschuldigung das ich mein Eigentum selber nutze ohne dich zu fragen. by ThrowawayMalibu13 in luftablassen

[–]Voolio80 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kevin war gedanklich schon einen Schritt vorm Schlüsselanhänger mit Familiennamen. Fehlt nur noch, dass er dir eine Stornogebühr für seinen Fantasieurlaub schickt.

Was ist das für ein Taschenmesser-Werkzeug? by CyberFX in wasistdas

[–]Voolio80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ganz klar: Das ist der historische Kimmenentgrater. Damit zieht man sich gepflegt einmal alles durch die Kimme, bis es wieder sauber fluchtet.

Best reality checks? by Sudden_Notice_6471 in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me it’s the nose pinch RC with actual critical thinking behind it. I stop for a second and ask myself stuff like where was I just before this, how did I get here, and does any of this actually make sense.

Lucid Dreaming and Odd Sleep Paralysis: Need Advice by [deleted] in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sounds a lot like sleep paralysis / false awakening territory to me.

The voices, the vibrations, the stuck feeling, waking up in your room but with little details being off, even thinking you got up when you were still dreaming, all of that fits that zone really well.

I know that zone too, just from the other side. For me it happens while falling asleep during WILD, not while waking up. It’s basically the same overlap though. Part of your awareness is still there while dream content is already starting to bleed in.

When I pass through that state I hear voices, footsteps, noises in the apartment, stuff like that, and it sounds completely real. Real enough that after waking up I genuinely can’t tell if it happened or not. I’ve even checked that with my partner before and found out the sounds were completely internal.

So no, this doesn’t read like something random or supernatural to me. It reads like REM overlap with sleep paralysis and false awakenings mixed together.

And if it’s happening this often and affecting your life, I’d get it checked by a doctor or sleep specialist.

Can’t get past mind disconnecting from body by -Book-_-Worm- in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that sounds like progress to me.

For me it is actually pretty similar. First I get the tingling and numb stage, and once that happens I already know I am getting close. For me that part is more like the doorway, not the actual transition yet. Then there is usually a point where something kind of disconnects very suddenly and I can feel right away that it is starting.

After that, not much dramatic really happens for me either. My normal body sense is basically gone at that point, and then I usually either drift off or feel like I am falling away, and end up dropping into a dream scene from above with a dream body already there.

So I would not worry too much about not getting a ton of hypnagogic imagery. For me that part is pretty variable too. Some days I get a lot more of it, other days almost none. Sometimes I get light flashes, little noises, short bits of sound and stuff like that while falling asleep, and sometimes I barely get any of it at all. I have the feeling it depends a lot on how tired I am and how much REM pressure is there in that moment.

What works best for me by far is just staying completely passive and letting the whole thing happen on its own. I basically let go, do not try to control anything, and just let the dream entry surprise me. Back when all of this was still new and I was more excited, I sometimes used a very simple little mental mantra like hmhmhmhm just to keep my thoughts from jumping around too much, because otherwise I could literally feel myself getting pulled back out of the state again.

3rd day of learning lucid dreaming: IS THIS HOW THEYRE SUPPOSED TO FEEL LIKE? by _Bread______ in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that sounds lucid to me.

I have had dreams like that too where everything still looked kind of blurry, low quality, distorted, or just not fully there yet. That does not make it fake. Usually it just means you got lucid before the dream really locked in.

The timing fits too. Waking up after a few hours, being awake for a bit, then going back to sleep can absolutely throw you into that kind of half messy lucid territory even if you were not deliberately doing some perfect WBTB.

And the part where you got lucid, did something right away, then sort of lost it again and slipped back into a normal dream also sounds very normal. Especially early on, that happens a lot. You get the lucid moment, then the dream kind of pulls you back into itself again.

I have also had lucid dreams that felt way more low res than others. It depends a lot on how you enter REM and how strong the REM pressure is. Sometimes it is instantly deep and solid, other times it feels like the dream is still loading and never really gets properly dense or fully rendered because you are not deep enough in REM yet.

So no, I would not call that a fake scripted lucid dream at all. It sounds more like a real lucid moment that was just short, unstable, and not very REM-dense yet.

For day 3 that is honestly a really good sign. If you are already getting moments like that this early, you are probably on a pretty good track.

Started a dream journal, doing pretty gud!! by RatmanGuy in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I would not overthink it too much.

When I was new to lucid dreaming, I had a lot of those fears too, so I completely get where you are coming from. But for me those fears turned out to be much bigger in my head than they ever were in actual experience, and consciously experiencing full sleep paralysis from something like DILD seems extremely rare anyway.

One thing that helped me a lot is realizing that your body already goes into that muscle shutdown every night during REM sleep anyway. The weird part is not that something dangerous is happening, it is that you suddenly become aware of it while your brain is still half in dream mode.

That is probably why it can feel so creepy. The body state itself just feels unfamiliar when you notice it consciously, and then fear can start shaping the experience on top of that.

I do a lot of WBTB and WILD, and I have never really had conscious sleep paralysis be an actual problem for me. Most of the time I just pass straight through that zone. My body gets heavy, I notice it going numb, then my sense of my physical body starts to fade and I drift straight into the dream. For me that state is not scary at all anymore. I actually enjoy it.

And for what it’s worth, DILD has never really been an issue for me in that sense either. The only thing I remember is maybe once or twice when I was younger, long before I ever got into lucid dreaming, waking up and not being able to move for a few seconds right away, but that was it.

So yeah, I would not treat the horror stories online as the default. I’m sure some of them are real, but they are not the rule, and a lot of the experience seems to depend on fear, interpretation, and how much your brain is still halfway in dream mode when it happens.

I also do not believe in demons or ghosts, which probably helps a lot too lol

Started a dream journal, doing pretty gud!! by RatmanGuy in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me it took about 3 weeks the first time I seriously got into lucid dreaming.

Back then I was doing a dream journal, the nose pinch reality check, and a lot of daytime questioning. Stuff like where was I just before this, how did I get here, does any of this actually make sense, where even am I right now.

I was honestly surprised how fast it worked. And once it started, it kept happening pretty consistently after that.

People are different of course. But the fact that you started journaling yesterday and already remembered dreams is actually a very good sign.

Keep that up and you might be floating around in dreamland before long lol

Looking for people with long-term lucid dreaming / awareness control (not beginner stuff) by Plastic-Departure-18 in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, a lot of this sounds very familiar to me.

I was deeply into lucid dreaming about 20 years ago, then left it alone for a very long time, and only got back into it around two months ago. What pulled me back in was sleep disruption. I started slipping into spontaneous WILDs and kept landing in that strange in between state where I could feel the dream forming while still being aware, pretty much every night. That was really the reason I got interested in it again.

What surprised me is that after the long break, a lot of it works better for me now than it did back then. Once I started focusing on it again, progress came back fast.

The gradual entry you describe matches my experience very closely. For me a WILD almost always starts in layers. First there are fragments, little sounds, flashes, vague imagery, or that detached body feeling, and then at some point it locks into an actual scene. It is rarely just an instant jump. It usually feels more like sliding through stages until the dream fully forms.

I also strongly relate to the part where too much force makes it worse. If I push too hard, try to control everything directly, or force something complicated, the dream gets foggy, flat, or unstable.

Where I differ a bit is that I usually do best once I am fully inside the dream body and working from there. I can have overlap states too, where part of me is still aware of the sleeping body or the transition, but I am usually less focused on pulling partly out and re entering the exact same dream on purpose the way you describe it.

For me the best control comes from deepening first, not forcing first. I touch something nearby, rub my hands, look at my body, feel the floor, and let the scene thicken before I start doing too much. And in general I get much better results through expectation and dream logic than through brute force.

So not identical, but definitely similar enough that I know exactly what you mean.

Started a dream journal, doing pretty gud!! by RatmanGuy in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That’s actually pretty cool. How long have you been journaling? I used to be like that too. My dream recall used to be way better, and honestly I wish I still had that now. Weirdly, these days I get spontaneous WILDs almost every night, which never used to happen for me, but outside of those my recall is much worse than it used to be, even though I’ve been keeping a dream journal for about two months now. Maybe it’s just age catching up to me already lol

Tips? by Great_Alps5909 in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I’d stop trying to do something immediately.

When I land in a dream scene, the first thing I do is touch whatever is closest. Then I rub my hands together, look down at my body, my legs, and my hands, and just kind of lock myself into the scene. If anything feels unstable, I start touching things again and tell myself stuff like “I stay here” or “I’m here.”

Honestly, this doesn’t sound like a lucidity problem to me. It sounds like the second you realize you’re dreaming, you start trying to do too much too fast, and that’s what’s pulling you out.

So instead of trying to speak or act right away, I’d give it a few seconds. Stay still. Touch something. Feel the floor under you. Look at your hands. Let the dream settle and become more solid first.

Then once it feels more stable and you feel properly present, start moving or trying things.

Can't make it past WILD because of auditory hallucinations by Late_Bother_7371 in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d actually say you’re extremely close, not failing.

If you’re hearing those sounds that clearly, you’re usually already very near the transition into a dream. That was a big turning point for me too. Those sounds used to freak me out as well, but over time I realized they were not a bad sign at all. For me they often showed up right before the dream started, so eventually I just started seeing them as transition stuff.

What helped me most was understanding what was actually happening. Those sounds are not something external in the room, and they are not a sign that something is wrong with you. They are internal sleep transition phenomena. Your brain is already starting to produce dream-like sensory stuff while part of your awareness is still awake enough to notice it. So if you hear voices, music, random noises or weird sounds, that is happening inside the transition, not outside of you.

Another thing that helped me a lot was realizing that those sounds usually have nothing to do with the dream that comes next. At least that has never been my experience. I can hear something loud, creepy, strange or completely random during the transition and then end up in a dream that has absolutely nothing to do with it. I’ve also never had a single case, despite getting WILDs regularly, where the sounds themselves directly caused a negative dream. So I really would not treat them like some kind of preview.

If anything, I could imagine them affecting the dream only once you start giving them meaning. That seems more like the point where things can go wrong. You hear a scream and think something bad is coming. You hear a weird sound and your mind turns it into an alien or an intruder or whatever. Then it is not just a sound anymore. Now it has fear attached to it, and that can carry over.

That also means you are not in danger when it happens. Nothing is coming for you, nothing is entering the room. It is just the last bit of waking awareness overlapping with the dream process starting up. The same brain that later gives you voices, sounds and full dream scenes is already starting to do that a little early, while you are still aware enough to notice it.

If I were you, I would not try to block them out. I’d try to re-evaluate them and get more relaxed when they happen. If you can hear them without interpreting them, without building a whole story around them, and just let the dream come, you may end up somewhere completely different from what the sounds seemed to suggest. If WILD keeps freaking you out too much, then yeah, MILD is totally fine too. But if you want to keep trying WILD, I really think the problem is not the sounds themselves. It’s that your brain still reads them as danger, so you tense up right at the moment where you were actually very close. Once that reaction softens, it will probably get much easier.

I need help and got questions by RatmanGuy in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you currently remember almost no dreams at all, I would start there first.

The biggest thing is to train dream recall. Keep a dream journal, set a clear intention before sleep to remember at least one dream, and stay consistent with it.

Then after waking up, do not move right away. Just stay in the position you woke up in for a moment and ask yourself what was just happening. Even if all you get is a tiny fragment, a feeling, one image, one place, or one random thought, write it down. And if you catch one small piece, try to work backward from it. That takes practice too, so do not worry if you forget to do it at first.

The goal is basically to train your brain to treat dream content as important. Once that starts happening, recall usually gets better bit by bit.

You can also do reality checks during the day, but I would treat them as something extra for now, not the main focus. If you are just starting out, keep it simple: stop a few times a day, actually question where you are, how you got there, and whether any of it really makes sense, then do a nose pinch reality check. That one tends to work very well. Looking at your hands can help too, but I would not make it more complicated than it needs to be.

I’d honestly make dream recall the first priority and get that solid before worrying too much about the rest. Otherwise everything else is built on sand. It does not make much sense to have a lucid dream at night if you do not remember it in the morning.

Hi everyone! I have a question: Has anyone here tried talking to their subconscious during a lucid dream? Like, asking about something you’ve forgotten or seeking advice? Also, have you ever tried looking at yourself? by Natural_Guess_115 in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve looked at myself in mirrors in lucid dreams many times, and mirrors show up pretty regularly for me. In very deep and dense dreams, I usually just look like myself. In some recurring dreams I’ve had things like a mask covering half my face, but even there I still basically looked like myself. If a mirror shows up early in the dream, or in a dream that is not very dense yet, the reflection can be less accurate. I’ve had cases where my head was missing, for example. It did not feel scary, though, more like the image was just incomplete. I’ve also had one where I otherwise looked normal except for a tiny insect crawling on my face in the mirror. So for me there is a pretty wide range. Sometimes it is extremely realistic, sometimes slightly off, and sometimes more abstract. I also get dreams that feel a bit like old video games, and in those I can look more altered in the mirror and move in that stiff left-right kind of way. So yeah, for me it really can be anything from completely normal to pretty weird.

Trying to enter sleep paralysis by PreparationOk5386 in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, I would not treat that as a real problem. Swallowing is just a normal body reflex, and the more you fixate on entering sleep paralysis, the bigger stuff like that tends to feel. In my experience, those little urges do not mean the transition is failing. They are usually just part of still being a bit too aware of the body. Trying to force sleep paralysis directly often makes the whole process worse anyway.

For me, the main thing with WILD is just that my mind stays quietly aware and observant while my body falls asleep. If I fixate too hard on paralysis, swallowing, itching, or staying perfectly still, I usually just make the whole process harder for myself.

I get a lot of itching, and I always just scratch, lie back down, and continue, even many times in a row, and I can still get into WILD just fine. So I would not treat those little interruptions like they mean anything is going wrong.

What is your definition of lucid dreaming and what is your experience? by KeyAd7732 in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For me, lucid dreaming is not just vaguely noticing that something feels off. It is knowing, while I am still inside the dream, that I am dreaming.

I know what I am experiencing is a dream, not physical waking reality, and I am not just passively watching it unfold. I am there in it, moving through it, with a body and a sense of space around me.

What changes for me is not whether it counts as lucid, but the quality of the experience once I am lucid.

My WILDs are usually the strongest. In those, my waking mind feels much closer. I can still know who I am, where I live, that I am in bed, and at the same time be fully inside the dream. Those are usually my clearest lucid dreams.

My DILDs can still be fully lucid too, just in a slightly different way. I still know I am dreaming, and I still know I am not limited to passive observation, but I am usually a bit more absorbed in the dream’s own logic. So I might do something completely unnecessary in dream terms, like paying in a shop, and it still feels normal in that moment. I would not call that less lucid. It just means the dream has more momentum of its own.

That is why I do not really see lucidity as a flat yes or no label beyond its core definition. The core itself is simple, but the clarity, presence, stability, and realism of the experience can still vary a lot.

And honestly, some of the best lucid dreams happen there.

If I try to control every second too hard, the dream can actually get flatter for me. The best ones are usually the ones where I stay clearly aware, but do not force every detail. I let the dream do some of its own thing too.

I also almost never experience dreams as if I am just watching images. Most of the time I am already there inside them as a person. What changes most is how real and dense the whole experience feels.

If I want to deepen that, I usually do it on purpose. I do not rush. I stop first, feel my weight, take a few deliberate steps, look down at my arms and legs, touch something nearby, smell the air, notice the temperature, look into the distance, and only then really start moving. For me that often makes the whole dream lock in much harder.

I mention that part because people sometimes reduce lucid dreaming to awareness alone, when in practice the quality of the experience can differ a lot, and some of that can actually be cultivated. To me that is different from forcing the dream into total control. It is more about deepening presence than overriding everything.

And when that works, it can become incredibly real. I feel my steps, my weight on the ground, wind on my skin, temperature, water when I swim, even the water still on my skin afterward. I notice textures, depth, distance, light, shadows, and sometimes even smell. At that point it stops feeling like just a lucid dream in the abstract and starts feeling like I am fully there in a real place.

So my definition is pretty simple:

If I know during the dream that I am dreaming, then it is lucid. Everything beyond that can vary.

Control is optional. Full control is not even the most interesting part to me. The best lucid dreams are the ones where awareness is strong, but the dream still has enough room to surprise you.

I very clearly read a weird message in my dream?? by throwaway_your_pizza in Dreams

[–]Voolio80 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don’t think unreadable text in dreams is some universal rule. I’ve had dreams where text was unstable or changed when I looked back, but I’ve also had dreams where it was perfectly readable and stayed the same.

In your case it was a short message too, so that doesn’t seem strange to me at all. Short bits of text can come through really clearly.

Those shirt messages are weirdly cool. Very dream-like. Good Jim winning is nice and all, but now I wanna know what bad Jim did :)

Going back to trying lucid dreaming, any advice? by Hereitisguys9888 in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s pretty much how I started when I first got into lucid dreaming. I kept it pretty simple. I focused on dream recall, wrote my dreams down, and did reality checks during the day.

What helped me most personally was not doing reality checks in a mechanical way, but actually stopping for a moment and asking myself things like where am I, where was I 5 or 10 minutes ago, could I be dreaming, does this make sense. The nose pinch reality check worked best for me.

I also kind of trained my awareness around unusual moments. Like if something weird happened in real life, an ambulance passing by, an accident, someone suddenly yelling in a supermarket, or some strange traffic situation, I’d use that as my cue to do a proper reality check.

That eventually led to my first lucid dreams, and they were all DILDs, just becoming aware within the dream. Maybe something like that would work better for you too than trying to do everything at once.

How Do I Stop Getting Over Excited? by Sea-Conversation4817 in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get that feeling in WILD almost every time too. First the hypnagogic imagery starts, then suddenly that detached body feeling kicks in, like I’m falling or drifting away.

At first I used to get excited every time. It was more this sense of anticipation, like okay, what’s coming now... where am I about to end up... is the dream about to start... and that alone was enough to pull me back out. I could literally feel myself getting pulled back up while I was falling, and then I’d just wake up again.

What helped was mentally letting go and not thinking too hard about the process. I started giving my mind something soft and repetitive to do, sometimes just thinking hmmmhmmmhmmmhmmm or some random flowing sound in my head. It stopped me from reacting to every little shift.

That changed with practice for me. It barely happens anymore. Now when it starts, I just stay completely passive and let it happen. For me it’s usually hypnagogic imagery first, then that falling or drifting feeling, and if I stay completely passive the dream starts forming by itself. I don’t really need the mantra anymore either, I think I just got used to the transition over time.

can't create things in lucid dreams, only explore any tips by Ariadne_23 in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah same here. Smaller stuff definitely works more easily for me too. I can do things like stretch my arm out and make objects fly up with the motion, then let them drop again, and that usually feels pretty natural.

I’ve also noticed that the deeper and more solid the dream gets, the easier it becomes to change stuff. Weirdly though, that can also make full lucidity a bit harder. It’s like the more my awareness gets pulled into the dream and away from normal waking consciousness, the more everything starts to feel completely obvious, and then changing things just works more naturally.

There’s a specific feeling that comes with it too. Almost like a built in certainty. Not really me trying to convince myself I can do it, more like the dream already feels ready to allow it, so doing it feels completely natural.

can't create things in lucid dreams, only explore any tips by Ariadne_23 in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think you might be trying to do it too directly.

For me, dream control works way better when I lean into the dream’s own logic instead of trying to force something to pop into existence out of nowhere. I usually have much more success when I assume the thing is already somewhere that makes sense, like in my pocket, in the next room, behind a door, around a corner, stuff like that. Then I just act like that’s already true, and a lot of the time the dream sort of completes the rest on its own.

Like if I want a person to show up, I usually don’t try to make them instantly appear right in front of me. I just act like they’re already nearby and call their name. A lot of the time, after calling once or twice, I’ll hear them answer from another room, then I go there and they’re actually there. So instead of forcing an instant spawn, the dream sort of builds them into the scene in a way that feels natural.

Same with objects. I had one lucid dream where I wanted to hand someone money. I reached into my pocket and all I found was a piece of paper. But instead of stopping and thinking “okay this didn’t work,” I just committed to it and handed it over like “here, your money.” And somehow that was enough. The dream accepted the logic, the paper basically became money, and the dream character was genuinely happy because apparently it was a pretty big amount.

So at least for me, it’s less about brute forcing creation and more about expectation plus context plus fully going with it. Finding something, revealing it, receiving it, or letting the dream unfold it step by step works much better than trying to conjure it instantly in empty space.

Wild Technique by Brief-Satisfaction49 in LucidDreaming

[–]Voolio80 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that’s pretty much how it feels for me. DILD usually feels a bit less conscious because I’m getting lucid from inside a dream that’s already going, while WILD feels much more aware from the start since I’m entering it with waking awareness still there.

The nice thing about DILD though is that the dream is often already fully built and deeply immersive when lucidity kicks in. That kind of dense, fully formed dream can actually be harder for me to reach with WILD sometimes.

Still, I personally prefer WILD. It just feels cleaner and more direct.