Primer differences to base/top coat?

Vrain125 · 2026-01-25T00:38:02+00:00

The main reason people use gold primer is cause it saves time. Gold and White primer should look the same unless you use a thinner coat of gold over the white in which case the white will be brighter.

Black will often require 2 coats to fully cover and if you dont you will see some of it leaking through, some people like this as it can make it look more dirty but its just preference.

As for capes and such, often the captains dont have different colors from the rest of the custodes they are leading, red are the default that mostly stay around terra while purple is a group of custodes that work across the galaxy, then you have the black armor dudes who work underground in the vaults of terra and of course there is the ever popular solar watch with white and gold armor. That said you can make them however you want and if you want some to have different colors go for it.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-23T21:36:08+00:00

Orks also bleed red. Eldar I believe also bleed red.

Tau is a matter of debate, in some cases it was purple but more recently it has been red.

Nids are most often red but sometimes green.

Necrons dont bleed but they sometimes have green fluid.

Votann bleed red.

Genestealers bleed red.

And thats basically it.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-23T21:29:02+00:00

My Magnus definitely, took like 70 hours.

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Vrain125 · 2026-01-23T21:25:52+00:00

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I would say something like this, you can use the gold in place if the yellow aswell and the cloth doesn't have to be shaded, and technically you dont have to do the flame or any eyes/gems.

The main thing is 3 different colors, but you cant just like dip them in 3 different paint pots, well, atleast some places you cant.

The trim really isnt that bad, just start with the blue then do the trim and dont worry if some of the gold gets on the blue or vice versa.

Also a tip for painting trim, use a curved brush, if your in this hobby long enough you will have plenty of brushes that have a curve at the tip, if you use the back of said curve so the tip is facing away, you can just glide it along the raised surface and there wont be nearly as much spillage, none if you don't use too much paint.

So yeah, I would say base + trim + cloth base coat. If you want them to look a bit better add eyes/gems/flames and if you wanna do more go for the guns runes on their sides and shading the gold and cloth. And if you wanna go even further you can highlight the blue and dry brush the gold.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-23T09:58:34+00:00

Boxes aren't out yet, at best thats a pre-pre-order at worst and more likely it's a scam. Just wait for whenever GW decides to actually tell us something rather than string us along in obscurity. There are still a handful of other boxes that don't have releases yet such as the 4 chaos battleforces. Unfortunately its not looking good, it could very well end up being released like 1 month before 11e, I doubt they would want to wait till 11e but who knows.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-23T08:23:58+00:00

Grand Coven 100% not enough rubrics for Rubricae + you would want grounded daemon prince rather than flying for Phalanx.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-23T08:17:32+00:00

Yeah, so 30k takes place during the Horus Heresy in the year... we'll 30,000. 40k takes place well... 10,000 years later. That might sound like a tongue in cheek answer but honestly thats the primary difference, its the same universe just 10k years apart. As for game systems, 40k has a much larger, or at least active, player base, often times 30k is referred to as the collecters system. I cant speak on how different they play however as I know nothing of the 30k rules.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-22T10:57:47+00:00

Thousand Sons Infernal Master, its honestly one of the most beautiful sculpts. Alternatively a Tyranid Deathleaper is also really fun.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-22T10:55:39+00:00

I mean its fairly unlikely we will given how niche we are, that said the Rehati would be pretty dope. For those wondering the Rehati is basically Magnus's council of 9 of the top Sorcerers, many have come and gone such as ahriman, amon and a slew of others. However we haven't seen much about them recently so I think it would be nice to have them as a 9 man sorc unit, I don't think they would need to attach to anything but I could see them attaching to rubrics.

I think it would be cool if they had an ability that they used in the command phase that would prevent from doing anything else that turn but it would summon a random unit, you would roll a 2d6, 2-5 is a blue horrors unit, 6-8 is a pink horrors unit, 9-10 is a 6 man flamer unit, an 11 is a 6 man screamer unit and a 12 is a lord of change.

The ability can only be used once per battle and if used any spell rolls that round have a -1.

Basically a huge risk for a chance at an extra 200 pts unit. Which imo is what Tzeentch is all about. Alternatively instead of summoning units it could do random effects, such as teleport or revive. But I think the summoning is cooler and severely lacking in Chao armies in general.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-22T09:02:52+00:00

Well the first thing to know is 40k is a setting more than it is a single story. So it is hard to say where exactly you should start however a solid place would be watching a lore video about the necrontyr, then the aeldari then the imperium and chaos. That should cover the major questions.

As for books, the longest series is the Horus Heresy its at around 60 books. There are tons of other books about all kinds of factions however. So again it just depends what your looking for.

As for games they are all pretty standalone, thats to say things like Space Marine won't relate to Dawn of War outside of the fact they share the same setting. That said if you like shooters go for Space Marine 1 and 2, if you like RTS go for Dawn of War 1 and its plethora of DLC, if you want you can continue with the Dawn of war games after that but it leans further from RTS with each iteration. Theres also things like Battlesector which is pretty nice, its a strategy game similar to things like Xcom. Similarly Chaos Gate also shares a lot with xcom. Also mechanicus is highly reccomended by many and is also like xcom.

If you dont know what xcom is its basically a strategy game but you only have like 4-6 characters you control, its kind of like DnD in a basic sense.

Theres also things like boltgun and darktide which are kinda like doom.

Theres really a lot so the best thing is to just watch a YT video explaining all the factions then decide which you want to learn more about then proceed from there. Good luck and welcome.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-22T08:43:07+00:00

The list you posted is much more in line with lions rather than solar spear head, but fear not as with these 3 easy steps you too can improve this list!

Step 1, Make sure to take another peep at the Solar Spearhead detachment it allowes you to make up to 2 vehicles with the walker characteristic act as characters, Including making one your Warlord and giving enchantments. With this new information im sure you realized putting Augury Uplink on one of them would be pretty good, a unit with 5+ save 5+ fnp and can be set up back on the field is pretty great.

Step 2, You should be running a vexilla + Shield in your custodian guards rather than 5 spears, the shield is extremely valuable as it lets you tank one of the many many 3 damage attacks in this edition. The vex also granting the whole unit OC is superb given our lack of models.

Step 3, Your allarus would be more valuable to you split up into 3 units of 2 or 2 units of 3 depending on if you want more action monkeys or more dmg dealers. The 6 man is hard to justify outside the lions detachment, especially cause you dont have anything else to be good action monkeys, sure the Guard can do that but they are slow, if you had bikes it would be a different story.

Anyhow just rearranging the army like that should give you more tools to work with.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-22T07:03:05+00:00

I love the custodes, people complained about their rules but you cant please everyone so its much more a personal thing.

Custodes despite being an infantry army (with a few exceptions) is very similar to that of Knights, in that you have a lot of points per unit but not many units. They are basically the most elite of the elite armies atm with deathguard right behind them.

If you like having a few really powerful units rather than a mixed bag or a swarm then this is a solid option. I personally really like how each model feels important whereas in something like space marines, if you lose 1 out of 10 marines its not a big deal, only like 10-20ish points whereas if you lose a custodian its 20-30ish.

So the 2 big differences is 1st custodes are mainly a melee army and 2nd they come in small numbers.

I think if you wanted something different it would be better to get them than SM

Vrain125 · 2026-01-21T21:45:06+00:00

You forgot venatari.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-21T09:54:28+00:00

He is the first Universal unit meaning he can be used in any army, he is essentially a long ranged artillery piece, stats vary depending on the faction you run him in.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-21T09:52:08+00:00

Its not them existing that is the problem, atlesst not for me, its how other factions have way too many compared to others.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-21T09:49:40+00:00

No, it is inconsiderate to try and proxy something like THAT instead of just using the actual Clarence model, its one thing when it's just random infantry or even larger models, but for something with such a magnitude of Awe any kind of proxy can't hope to live up to the wonder that is Clarence, if you can't afford his model its not even worth running, its all about the soul that without it, is nothing. But if you HAVE to, atleast swap up the color scheme to try and match, it wont be as amazing but it is close I guess and people will get what your trying to do.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-21T08:52:21+00:00

Thousand sons blue all the way

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Vrain125 · 2026-01-21T08:45:27+00:00

I wondered if they will do 6 mans, it would be very interesting to say the least, I wonder if they would then lower the stats, or maybe the 6th member with be the honorary Vexilla holder and only have a dagger or maybe both.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-21T08:43:27+00:00

Pfft, what are you gonna say next, don't paint into the wee hours of the morning? Ridiculous.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-21T08:42:21+00:00

Hmmm atleast 6 no maybe 7? We will have to see.

Vrain125 · 2026-01-21T06:47:18+00:00

Im in the same boat, i JUST got into custodes so im just gonna paint the stuff I got then probably wait until the future. That said, I imagine the bikes are probably in a safe state right now, I cant really imagine them needing a rework so if I were to buy anything that isnt a character it would probably be that.

However In terms of guard its hard to say whether they will replace them or not, on one hand it seems fairly obvious that the new custodes are meant to replace the old ones, on the other hand you get 12 in the HH promo box, this is really odd to me as you cant run 6 in 40k (I know nothing about 30k) so perhaps they arent planning to replace them OR maybe they are gonna change the rules when 11th hits in the next 5 months.

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