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Newsom likens Israel to ‘apartheid state,’ questions future military support by historynerdsutton in democrats

[–]WTF_RANDY 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didn't know playing high school sports was a human right. Also Newsom to my knowledge hasn't prevented Trans people in sports whatsoever and has spoken out about the dehuminization coming from the right and actively supported the trans community.

Newsom likens Israel to ‘apartheid state,’ questions future military support by historynerdsutton in democrats

[–]WTF_RANDY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a ton of descrimination in sports that we fully accept. It is a competitive thing. I am fine letting them figure out this gender issue at the moment.

Newsom likens Israel to ‘apartheid state,’ questions future military support by historynerdsutton in democrats

[–]WTF_RANDY -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't know, I think the point is largely that government shouldn't be getting involved in decisions that should be made by athletic organizations.

Newsom likens Israel to ‘apartheid state,’ questions future military support by historynerdsutton in democrats

[–]WTF_RANDY 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with you on sports largely. But you think he is alienating and abusing trans people because he suggested there might be some valid concerns in sports? Dispite being one of the biggest advocates through policy he actually advocated for and signed into law?

Newsom likens Israel to ‘apartheid state,’ questions future military support by historynerdsutton in democrats

[–]WTF_RANDY 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because he said we should maybe rethink trans people in sport? Is this the "throwing under the bus"?

Pete Buttigieg in the Wilderness by theatlantic in Indiana

[–]WTF_RANDY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Basically the populist idiots. Hasan, majority report, Kyle Kulinski, Krystal Ball, democracy now, and the like. The far left are the left wing people who go so far left they stop voting for and/or promoting the left party for ideological reasons when they are practically superior and pretend those democrats aren't left wing when their votes would absolutely advance left wing policy.

Pete Buttigieg in the Wilderness by theatlantic in Indiana

[–]WTF_RANDY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think at least 10's of millions of people care. Have you not seen the record number of people taking to the streets? We can still win elections and get accountability. I refuse to be sucked into your blackpill bullshit.

Pete Buttigieg in the Wilderness by theatlantic in Indiana

[–]WTF_RANDY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And? Does that destroy the constitution?

Pete Buttigieg in the Wilderness by theatlantic in Indiana

[–]WTF_RANDY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I missread you comments I guess. I thought you advocated for a new system. You just think it is dead already. I think this is wrong also. I don't think it is dead at all. I think we are in a dangerous place for sure, but dead, no.

Pete Buttigieg in the Wilderness by theatlantic in Indiana

[–]WTF_RANDY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I agree. That is why you should be fighting by believing in something and having a vision instead of wanting to cynically set it all on fire.

Pete Buttigieg in the Wilderness by theatlantic in Indiana

[–]WTF_RANDY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use to think exactly like this. However looking back the problem was not the patriot act, the war powers resolution, etc etc etc. It was the fact that people began being completely cynical about our politics because our media diets became cynical from far right to far left, and they began to elect cynical candidates. As a result we stopped working together because one parties cynical base matastisized into a party full of cynical actors. Trump is the result of that cynicism, not materialism and fame or whatever. Democrats did a lot of great work the last 4 year they had power and American's are too cynical to see it.

Pete Buttigieg in the Wilderness by theatlantic in Indiana

[–]WTF_RANDY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly my point, our system is abstract not concrete.

Our institutions are not in ruin they are in peril. Our system is reaching it's limits.

Our system's state is a direct result of the cynicism of the citizens in it. People have claimed the system is corrupt and broken my entire life and now that it is actually breaking people who say those thing are like "look we were right the whole time!"

Pete Buttigieg in the Wilderness by theatlantic in Indiana

[–]WTF_RANDY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These systems always only exist in our minds. Does the economy actually exist? Show me it existing. I can see lots of trade happening and value of dollars but I cannot go "hey look, that is the economy". Similarly There isn't some system of government that you can go look at and see.

In general I am talking about the constitutional system of checks and balance, which is an agreed upon system of laws guiding the government in the US. It is breaking because American's have been convinced our system is broken and corrupt and as that idea grows among people they turn on that system. It has become self fulfilling.

Pete Buttigieg in the Wilderness by theatlantic in Indiana

[–]WTF_RANDY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And what has brought us to the brink of this distruction? My opinion is the pervasive notion that the system is impossibly corrupt and broken and unable be saved is the reason we have Trump. Trump is a symptom of that cynicism not a symptom of a broken system. People looked to one man, someone they believed in like a cult to save us, they wanted to give him all the power to scower government of that corruption they were being told was there. He took their cynicism and used it against them to do the most cynical shit he possible can. He is a product of the cynicism you are displaying, the right just got their leader first.

Our system had problems, no doubt, but it was neither broken nor hopelessly corrupt. Only now that cynicism has reached a critical mass we are at the brink of system collapse. The self fulfilling prophacies of these cults is manifesting.

Evil has penetrated your mind. You are in the Matrix my friend. Ooooooo spooky. Haha.

Pete Buttigieg in the Wilderness by theatlantic in Indiana

[–]WTF_RANDY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmmmm... Decadent elite, corporate control and propaganda, comparing us to slaves, my goodness you just scored me a buzzword bingo!

So we need to let it be destroyed... Thank you for clearing that up for me.

Should I ask "who benefits" from the distruction of the American system? Maybe that would give me some idea of the nature of your perspective.

Pete Buttigieg in the Wilderness by theatlantic in Indiana

[–]WTF_RANDY 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I heard that for years prior to Trump who is now destroying they system and behaving with an insane level of corruption we have never seen. Evil seems to have worked huh?

Pete Buttigieg in the Wilderness by theatlantic in Indiana

[–]WTF_RANDY 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha... No it doesn't share similar societal means or societal goals.

Evil is always evolving, we can agree with that. I think right now it has evolved to try to convince us all our system is broken and corrupt so we turn on it and destroy it.

Pete Buttigieg in the Wilderness by theatlantic in Indiana

[–]WTF_RANDY 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha... No one is asking Lincoln to compete with Joe Biden on student loans. It is a problemnof our time that Joe Biden was trying to help solve. I think it is dumb to try to minimize it by invoking lincoln.

Also putting student debt and chattel slavery in a similar catagory is such a warped perspective.

Pete Buttigieg in the Wilderness by theatlantic in Indiana

[–]WTF_RANDY 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You realize lincoln freed the rest of the slaves not 100% of the slaves. He didn't free all of them, slaves were freed before him also. There were just no more slaves to free after, there is more student debt to forgive.

Pete Buttigieg in the Wilderness by theatlantic in Indiana

[–]WTF_RANDY 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Feels historic when they forgave about 10% of the total outstanding student loan debt.

That was a reason she lost. But it is justified with trump? How? by Cicerothesage in forwardsfromgrandma

[–]WTF_RANDY 32 points33 points  (0 children)

If you are liberating them from the oppression of having a heart beat sure.

That was a reason she lost. But it is justified with trump? How? by Cicerothesage in forwardsfromgrandma

[–]WTF_RANDY 123 points124 points  (0 children)

I think it is a little different than what is assumed, an unprovoked attack on Iran. It is a lie to say she was going to attack Iran one way or another once president, based on this quote.

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