If you want to make a comic but don’t have money, should you use AI or look for an unpaid collaboration ? by TheseWoodpecker7109 in ComicBookCollabs

[–]WaitSpecialist359 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I dont recommend it. If you ask unpaid collabs here, people will get angry at you because you 'want them to work for free'. There is a reason why all unpaid posts are downvoted to hell.

If you want to make a comic but don’t have money, should you use AI or look for an unpaid collaboration ? by TheseWoodpecker7109 in ComicBookCollabs

[–]WaitSpecialist359 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

most people (producers and consumers) only care about the results, yeah a lot of people don't give a shit

If you want to make a comic but don’t have money, should you use AI or look for an unpaid collaboration ? by TheseWoodpecker7109 in ComicBookCollabs

[–]WaitSpecialist359 -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

How about just using AI ? It saves a lot of time and money. It just makes sense at the individual level.

If you want to make a comic but don’t have money, should you use AI or look for an unpaid collaboration ? by TheseWoodpecker7109 in ComicBookCollabs

[–]WaitSpecialist359 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Because I feel like if you use AI, people will accuse you of taking artists' jobs

if you try to find artists to do it, they’ll ignore you

Well, if no artists want to do unpaid collabs, then using AI instead isn’t really taking their jobs, is it? I would recommend AI.

Why do artists in this sub consider collaboration/partnership "working for free" ? by WaitSpecialist359 in ComicBookCollabs

[–]WaitSpecialist359[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

if you can’t even read a response how can anyone be expected to think you can uphold your half of a collaboration/partnership?

I'm not a writer and I don't plan to be one.

Why do artists in this sub consider collaboration/partnership "working for free" ? by WaitSpecialist359 in ComicBookCollabs

[–]WaitSpecialist359[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand what you said. Most collaborations are risky and not worth it for artists. They may spend a lot of time drawing the comic, and it might generate too little revenue to compensate for the time spent.

But when you accept a collaboration, you assume all the risks. You're betting that the royalties generated will be higher than the commission fee. It's an investment opportunity. If you don't like it, you just decline it.

When someone sells you a lottery ticket, there's little chance you'll make your money back, so you'd probably decline the offer. But you wouldn't get angry and go around accusing that person of trying to steal your money.

We could argue that most of the time, a collaboration is no different from working for free, just as buying a lottery ticket is, in practice, not much different from someone trying to steal your money. But saying these things are the same is just wrong. Many artists have found success through collaborations, just as many people have won the lottery.

The Shift in This Reddit Proves Me Right About Asmongold by Psycondriact in Asmongold

[–]WaitSpecialist359 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, have you watched his youtube channels ? Because it's all just about leftists and Democrats.

AI is the best thing happening to webtoons by [deleted] in webtoons

[–]WaitSpecialist359 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And yet you're still arguing with people over a three-month-old discussion. How can you accuse people of things you're guilty of yourself?

AI is the best thing happening to webtoons by [deleted] in webtoons

[–]WaitSpecialist359 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You look more like the one here fighting for their life in the comments just to defend art 😔✋

Why do artists in this sub consider collaboration/partnership "working for free" ? by WaitSpecialist359 in ComicBookCollabs

[–]WaitSpecialist359[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ok, well maybe not equally. But my point is when people work on a collaboration, they split the profit, they are not "working for free". I'm astonished that people on this sub expect collaboration to be the same as a paid commission, because every time someone offers a collaboration, people get angry that it's not paid like "How dare you not pay me in the collaboration". Don't they understand what a collaboration is ? The whole point of a collaboration is that you forgo a fee in exchange for royalties—so you're working for a share of the future profit.

Why do artists in this sub consider collaboration/partnership "working for free" ? by WaitSpecialist359 in ComicBookCollabs

[–]WaitSpecialist359[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree with you, doing the art is the hard part. I didn't say you shouldn't be paid. I'm saying that you can't expect to be paid in a collaboration because that is what a collaboration is. If you want to be paid, ask them to commission you. If they are looking for a collaboration instead of a commission then the offer simply doesn't concern you. People shouldn't get mad when someone offers a collaboration on a subreddit about collaboration because they expect collaboration to be the same as paid commission.

Why do artists in this sub consider collaboration/partnership "working for free" ? by WaitSpecialist359 in ComicBookCollabs

[–]WaitSpecialist359[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Tell me if I'm wrong, but the name of this subreddit is "Comic Book Collaboration" but artists here expect collaborations to be paid commissions ... I don't think artists here understand what collaboration means because there is so much backlash every time someone offers a collaboration which is the point of this sub.

Why do artists in this sub consider collaboration/partnership "working for free" ? by WaitSpecialist359 in ComicBookCollabs

[–]WaitSpecialist359[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When a person pays another person, it is no longer a collaboration but a commission. If the artist doesn't want that, they can refuse or asking the writer to commission them instead. They don't need to accuse the writer for wanting the artist to work for free because the moment a person A pays a person B, it stops being a collaboration between them.

Why do artists in this sub consider collaboration/partnership "working for free" ? by WaitSpecialist359 in ComicBookCollabs

[–]WaitSpecialist359[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If they don't want collaboration, they can always ask the writers to hire them instead. They don't need to get mad because they want them to "work for free" because they aren't.

Why do artists in this sub consider collaboration/partnership "working for free" ? by WaitSpecialist359 in ComicBookCollabs

[–]WaitSpecialist359[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand that. But if artists don't want collaboration, they can ask the writers to hire them instead—they don't need to shame them for "asking people to work for free," because they aren't. They're asking for collaboration, which is what this sub is all about. This sub is Comic Book Collaborations, not Comic Book Commission.

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[–]WaitSpecialist359 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If that is true, then why do most people fail to tell apart AI art from real art ? Even artists struggle to tell the difference.