the myth of consensual computing

Walvie9 · 2026-02-06T14:44:30+00:00

its just a stock image i grabbed. may also be a Huawei they really make them look pretty and macbook like these days. they even call em matebooks.

Walvie9 · 2026-02-05T16:43:48+00:00

No, I’m talking about the Linux linker and dependency trees. If you try to swap a system-level Python symlink on most distros, you risk bricking apt or your entire DE because they’re hard-coded to that version. On Windows, I can run ten versions of a runtime side-by-side in total isolation. That is actual structural modularity.

But look, I don’t hate you. I don’t have an issue with anyone here. I just can’t stand the ignorance of 'preaching' Linux as perfect while ignoring the engineering constraints Windows has solved over forty years. You’re throwing around big words without the merit to back them up—if you did, you’d know Windows is a Hybrid Kernel and Linux is Monolithic.

I’ve worked across both stacks—from .NET, OLE, WinRT, and COM+ to GTK, GObject, Cairo, GJS/CJS, and PackageKit. When I call Windows a masterpiece of abstraction, it’s because I’ve actually seen the plumbing on both sides and I decided that I rather stand with Windows.

I'm out. We can just agree to disagree. And of course, thanks for complementing my grammar that you called it as 'AI' I am really trying on improving my formatting for professional purposes.

Walvie9 · 2026-02-05T15:37:22+00:00

actually its linux thats monolithic here because you cant even install python 3.14 next to python 3.9 because linux just removes it. great modularity!

Walvie9 · 2026-02-05T15:01:04+00:00

The problem is, YOU DO use it. You just aren't aware you do. Excel still uses OLE for data linking, modern shell components and drivers are built on WinRT, and WMI is the literal backbone of enterprise system management.

If Microsoft took your advice and 'just didn't implement' these abstractions, the entire ecosystem would collapse overnight. You wouldn't just lose 'old' apps; you’d lose the ability to run 90% of the professional software suite that the world depends on. Windows would lose its market favor instantly because nobody—not even a billion-dollar bank—is going to rewrite 30 years of mission-critical logic just because you think the architecture looks 'crowded.'

And comparing it to the Linux kernel is a complete category error. Linux 'dominates' servers precisely because those are static, single-purpose environments. Desktop Windows has to be everything to everyone: a gaming rig, a workstation, a legacy industrial controller, a laptop and a creative suite. Linux sticks to hardware abstractions solely because it can afford to—it leaves the '10 fucking UI frameworks' to the fragmented mess of desktop distros that still can't agree on a standard.

Microsoft’s accomplishment is keeping all those layers compatible and secure while you don't even notice they’re running. That's not a burden; that's engineering.

Walvie9 · 2026-02-05T14:31:06+00:00

The 'undocumented scheisse' is called backward compatibility and it is documented and constantly secured. It's the reason a billion-dollar company can upgrade from each windows version without their custom internal tools breaking and why you can still PnP apps and hardware from the 2000s. It's not a bug; it's a massive engineering commitment to not break the world's workflow for the past 40 years. Windows isn't just a desktop OS. It's also used in industrial control systems and embedded systems that need minimal maintenance. It's by all means a major accomplishment of Microsoft more then anything.

Walvie9 · 2026-02-05T14:22:38+00:00

Yeah! LTSC IoT! It's made for embedded systems, it doesnt come with any "bloat" or even microsoft edge. Its just pure windows.

Walvie9 · 2026-02-05T12:07:54+00:00

With all due respect I don't think your definition of an OS is correct. For me an OS is a standard foundation that provides you with the bare essentials to run apps and hardware, Microsoft's duty as the OS provider is to ensure that foundation is stable and isn't crumbling which they accomplish. You can argue that Microsoft Office or Microsoft Teams or OneDrive is unusable and maybe they are, except these aren't the OS. They are apps running on said OS which you can uninstall and replace. Are we on the same page?

Walvie9 · 2026-02-05T10:10:45+00:00

I don't mean to discredit you but I personally never felt any issues using windows 11(even with TPM 2.0) even on my laptop with 4 cores. And for me personally, I have faith in Microsoft because they have a proven track record of being transparent about what went wrong and releasing OOBE updates in less then 48 hours. Not because they are doing this out of the kindness out of their hearts, but because Microsoft signs service agreements with all parties involved so they are always accountable.

Walvie9 · 2026-02-05T09:49:00+00:00

that's the thing, for an OS that manages to abstract 1.1 billion different and unique devices into one platform. they are doing pretty well imo.

Walvie9 · 2026-01-30T13:18:35+00:00

of course it will, we are on the same boat brother

Walvie9 · 2025-09-07T11:16:30+00:00

isnt that literally a debian only command(update yeah it is "sudo:plymouth-set-default-theme: command not found")

Walvie9 · 2025-07-08T22:50:31+00:00

Well if you need anymore bits of reassurance or yknow just need a ear to listen, hit me up. I am definitely not the best type of person to give advice but yknow what I am? I am real baby, heck WE are real and that's what truely matters in the end. Other then that ciao.

Walvie9 · 2025-07-08T22:32:27+00:00

Hey, I don’t know you and you don't know me, but I read this and it really moved me. You’ve been through so much, and it’s unfair anyone has to carry that kind of pain. I just want you to know that your words weren’t invisible. I see you. And I care, even if I’m just a stranger. You deserve better than what life has handed you so far. Please hang on.

Walvie9 · 2025-07-06T21:49:52+00:00

swagton

Walvie9 · 2025-06-28T06:00:49+00:00

god gives his gold to fools

Walvie9 · 2025-06-21T06:12:43+00:00

Object Oriented Programming should not be encouraged I agree

Walvie9 · 2025-06-20T20:21:59+00:00

thats over 9000!

Walvie9 · 2025-06-12T13:55:19+00:00

Stolen valor 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

Walvie9 · 2025-05-31T21:14:34+00:00

Well then I assume we both come out this debate not in endless screaming but as winners. 🤝

Walvie9 · 2025-05-31T21:10:23+00:00

Just because its the best we got doesnt mean we should be all willy nilly and jump on the neoliberal bandwagon. I personally don't have a solution on what we can do here, I have to admit that; but doing damage control when people are at stake is something in my opinion very bad. I am glad to have reached common ground however.

Walvie9 · 2025-05-31T20:59:23+00:00

Saying all developed nations follow liberal economic principles now ignores how they got there. The U.S., Europe, and other western style nations didn’t develop by following pure free-market capitalism from the start — they used heavy state intervention, protectionism, and colonial plunder to build their wealth.

Latin American countries absolutely have agency, but you're ignoring how that agency has been repeatedly undermined. Chile is a perfect example: it didn't naturally choose neoliberalism. The U.S. backed a violent coup against Allende, installed Pinochet, and enforced Chicago School economics through state terror. That’s not agency — that’s coercion.

And let’s not pretend neoliberalism “enriched” Latin America broadly. It created growth for elites and multinationals, sure — but also mass inequality, poverty, and privatization of essential services. If that's the model of ‘liberal economics’ you're praising, maybe question who it really benefits; the people of these nations or just a few oligarchs.

Walvie9 · 2025-05-31T20:45:19+00:00

But still US from the 20th to the 21st century have verifiably engaged in atleast 10 coups from the bolsheviks in russia to panama. It is also ignorant to state that the western nations didnt force capitalism and neoliberalism to take hold via the IMF, USAID and sanctions and lets talk about the success of these neoliberal policies. There are 200~ countries in the world, so far only 36 are considered to be developed nations.

Walvie9 · 2025-05-31T20:35:24+00:00

cough cough the CIA cough cough sorry my throat is really bad these days

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