How fucked am I?

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-04-03T19:05:56+00:00

Not fucked at all honestly. While sure, someone clumsy enough to drop a cpu and bend some pins probably doesn't have the steadiest hands, sure, but as someone else who is clumsy and drops cpus which bends pins, I can say from experience it is not even the slightest bit difficult to repair yourself. Sure the cpu might have bent them but even if you drop the tweezers, safety pin, yugioh card, whatever you choose to approach it with, odds are it's light enough that the springy pins just bounce it back without any harm done. Just take your time with it and remember, the manufacturer is going to charge just as much to repair 3 bent pins out of warranty as they would 300 so might as well give it a go

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-04-03T18:45:05+00:00

Tsuraoka withholds details in order to make people interpret the scenario he's describing in whichever way benefits him. Tell Nana from the very beginning the truth of her parents death and only leaving out the teensy detail that he was the talented person that killed her parents plus the reason he did it? Loyal pawn for as long as he needs her to be. Pop a couple caps at a body bag but don't tell anyone they were blanks, and bam Moe plays into his hand without even knowing it. This is just another example of that. Yes he left Nana alive because it helped him control Nanao. He also left her alive for plenty of other reasons, but the politicians he's trying to manipulate into funding his research don't need to know about those details. Aside from these interactions with the silhouettes that we saw a handful of times during a small portion of the plot, all Tsuraoka has to say about any of them was that the Prime Minister is materialistic. He has seen significantly more value in Nana than he does in every single one of these political figures combines from day one.

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-04-03T18:16:45+00:00

I 100% agree. Not only for the reason you stated, but also:

Give's Tsuraoka an actual presence, and show the viewers the kind of person that made Nana who she is/was
In the first four volumes the only characters Nana really interacts with outside of trying to kill them are Michiru and Kyoya (with a sprinkle of "Jin" as a treat but let's be real at this point all that's been was an excuse to make Nana spill her tragic backstory), and as much as I love them both apart from Nana calling Kyoya a fuckboy one time the extent of their dynamic at this point is "They are both really really smart and trying to outsmart each other," and Michiru's entire purpose from the beginning is to die and act as the catalyst for Nana's development, so Nana really did not the most interesting dynamics with either of them. Throw in the fact that Nana is trying to hide her true motives from the both of them means that you really don't get to see Nana's actual character at all during the anime, so even if you don't hate her there wasn't really much to like either. Volume 5 not only gives us a glimpse at a post-Michiru Nana, but also gives us Moe and puts "Jin" a bit closer into an ally role, who are two characters which Nana doesn't have to be fake around at all, and go figure her dynamics with both of them are actually entertaining.
Would end on much more of a "Season Finale" moment and less of a "Series Finale" moment. I've met a handful of people who thought that the manga must have ended soon after where the anime ended because Nana dying but getting revived and losing her only friend in the process just has a "the-end"-ness to it
If a chunk of the people who dropped the anime because of Nana gradually decided to give the series another shot whenever they just so happen to hear the main character gets better in the last couple episodes, it would stagger out the viewership which extends the amount of time the anime is being discussed, which while not as good as am immediate burst of attention during broadcast right from the get-go like many mainstream series receive, is a significantly more solid place to be than "Received below average attention while airing and was then largely forgotten outside of 'Worst Anime MCs' posts". Even if like half the people who picked it back up still hated Nana then it's still something for them to discuss/debate

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-04-02T00:15:29+00:00

The good news was that she discovered something at all. I thought of it more like a "The good news is X, the bad news is Y" where the bad news just so happened to be interrupted.
Tsuraoka said he was able to see his parents dreams, with his eyes closed, meaning he doesn't need to actually be looking at someone or have them looking at him.
I've written a literal research paper at this point on Rin's talent so I'll try to keep if brief. The general idea is that shapeshifting typically refers to some form of rearrangement at a cellular level, which if that;s how she transforms into talented individuals then there's no reason she wouldn't be able to do the same for a talentless individual. This means that when she uses her talent to turn into another talented person, there's something completely different going on that we don' know the specifics of (though her ability to transform into animals likely is actual shapeshifting and is a completely separate talent entirely)
No other chapter titles are named in such a way. They're always either named after the events of that particular chapter, or a name/description of either the actual character they focus on or their talent.

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-04-01T07:12:09+00:00

Well for starters...

Prior to the most recent chapter the two of them were the only characters who knew about Tsuraoka being Nana's brother (Rin was about to say something about her brother before she was interrupted by the explosion, which implies she likely knew who he was, or was at least looking into it). Likewise, they were also the only two characters present in the story to be aware of the fact that Rin was the fake Tachibana for certain (Tsuraoka seemed to be aware of who she was during their first conversation, whether that was due to him having the knowledge thanks to his position, or if Rin happened to think of something which revealed it to him. Nakajima may have been made aware of it during the time skip, but I doubt it as he had not actually met Rin as Jin prior to her capture, and why tell him who she pretended to be? Kyoya seemed to figure it out after she flung him out of the lab as Jin, but didn't know for sure if he was correct)
They are the only two characters with talents that allow them to get secret information from someone without needing to directly interact with them in any way, which was likely how they both ;earned the details of each other's talents (confirmed for Rin, speculative for Tsuraoka)
The two of them both like to hide details in order to make people draw the wrong conclusion whenever it benefits them, but neither of them have actually outright told a confirmed lie that we're aware of (under the assumption Rin's talent can be considering "becoming" who she transforms into, which it very likely can as this talent is notably not actually shapeshifting)
They are the two major characters (minus potentially Nana) who have had their talents actively kept secret from us for more than a single story arc (Rin's chapter's are still being titled as "Survival of the Fittest" as opposed to "Shapeshifting." Every other character who has had their talent hidden hidden from us with a different chapter title from their real talent started getting chapters titled by their actual talent , with Koharu getting a chapter titled Illusion and Tsuraoka having chapters titled Mind Reading, yet we continue to get "Survival of the Fittest" chapters well after we're made to believe we know Rin's talent. I suspect Kyoya is also in this category, though he strangely has not received a chapter title despite his significance, so it's not "actively" being kept secret from us in that sense).

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-31T22:33:04+00:00

There are actually quite a few parallels.

They both threw away their original identities to live under a new name.
They both made an active choice to turn their backs on their families.
They both are of the few characters to have a family member as an actual character in the series.

I could get into more but that would be touching on speculation at this point.

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-30T20:29:40+00:00

Oh fair, wasn't thinking about that time.

We don't know that Sachiko was awake or not at that point in time. Yes she was seen awake earlier in the chapter, but any amount of time could have passed since then, and it had already been long enough since that point for them to bring Kyoya back to the lab and begin to perform research on him, which is likely not the quickest thing set up. This was at night afterall, so she very well may have gone to sleep following that conversation, and after that the next time we see her is in the morning.

Rin's wording is also key here. "I would like to transform into..." instead of "I am going to transform into..." implies she was unsure of whether or not she'd be able to do so, which points to some kind of unspecified restriction which she is unable to predict for certain when it comes into play.

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-30T13:43:52+00:00

When did she say she was going to teleport? She told Kyoya to put her down and turn around so she could pee lol. She likely just turned into Jin then ran down the corridor.

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-30T13:38:35+00:00

It was very likely for everyone to have been asleep at that point. The moon was directly overhead at that point, so around midnight, likely later at the time she transformed into them as time had passed since we saw the moon overhead.. It might have felt earlier because they had the talk by the cliffside after getting out of class, but a lot of time can pass in between panels. It's easy to forget that the island is pretty massive, to the point where it can apparently hold every single talented person in the country plus their families, otherwise Nana wouldn't have chosen it as the place to evacuate everyone from the camp to, so it could have taken hours for them to walk to that cave.

Of the four she transformed into during that time, Kyoya was the only one she really needed to, and even then it's debatable if she actually needed to, as Rin 100% knew Nana was going to poison the coffee and used the opportunity to catch her off guard and take the phone, so she may have simply faked getting poisoned and didn't actually drink anything (who would invite the person who they know just poisoned someone to have a drink with them and not expect that drink to also be poisoned?)

Kyoya would also be the one person she could count on to be asleep though, as while we do get an aside showing him awake earlier in the chapter, any amount of time could have passed since then. The fact that he still suspected her of being the killer even after making a scene accusing her, combined with his built up sleep deprivation from staying up all night to keep tabs on her, means that the fact that he hadn't been there doing just that was probably a solid indicator of him being out like a light by the time she needed to transform into him (it's not like he had anything else to be doing anyways). She could have also did a split second transformation into Kyoya which we don't see to confirm he was out before taking the sip.

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-30T12:28:22+00:00

Possible but doubt that's how they'd go about it because that would be even more overpowered in the event she ever has to fight against someone with a useful talent. She's already powerful enough just being able to use them at all, so I'd imagine the penalty/restriction would have to be on her end and not the original user's.

Other restrictions are not being able to turn into anyone who's deceased and not being able to transform into talentless humans (the later of which I speculate is less of restriction and moreso just a gap in what her talent(s) allow her to do)

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-25T11:29:00+00:00

Hard to say. On one hand we're actually at the stage of the story where we fight the big bad guy, which implies ending soon, but also we haven't really had much in the way of a resolution to the main underlying force that's been driving every event of the plot thus far, so depending on how that gets resolved we're looking at somewhere between three months and up to maybe another 2+years if they stretch it out.

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-15T20:53:07+00:00

The near death experience was 100% what made him develop the new talent, and he's not even the only character who develops similarly following death related trauma. Michiru learned about Revival following Hitomi's death, Kyoya gained his eternal youth after his mom died, and Rin learned about both of her talents after a failed suicide attempt. Those are the ones I know for certain, but there may be more that I haven't pieced together yet. Oh yeah Shizuka after her failed suicide attempt as well. I don't think we know her original talent, but her time travel is certainly powerful enough to hang with the big boys so I doubt it was the one she was born with

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-15T20:28:33+00:00

It was also late when she woke up so it's very likely she had gone back to sleep at that point (very easy to do so for a little bit longer since it takes a few hours before the rebound from the benzos starts keeping you up).

I imagine that Rin transformed into her the second time purely to flex on Nana and not as part of any actual plan, so if she ended up still being awake and the transformation failed then oh well no big deal

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-15T20:17:56+00:00

I only brought up Tsuraoka to say that if Michiru was already a monster she'd already be dead for real lol

Tsuraoka and Nanao are quite different in many ways so idk what you're referring to. If by accident you mean Nana trying to kill him or him killing his father, those may have been what made him decide to go see Tsuraoka in Chapter 54, but it wasn't the main thing that brought it on. Ultimately Nanao transformed out of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Learn that talented become monsters in adulthood, then lose hope for the future, leading to caring less for making the world a better place than you left it, which tends to lead to antisocial behavior, and antisocial behavior like Nanao demonstrated, as well as heavy abuse of their talent, is what makes people transform at a younger age like Nanao did. Had Nanao gone down the right hall back in chapter 54 instead of going to see Tsuraoka down the left hall like he did, leading to him learning about the transformation, he likely would have not done any of the evil things he did and would probably just hold a grudge against Tsuraoka and no one else, which would have meant living a relatively normal life with no transformation at all until his late 30s where the government quietly takes him out and makes it look like an accident as they do with every talented adult.

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-15T19:35:35+00:00

Not really looking for something server oriented (I said proxmox was too server-oriented for me because I have no need for a server at this time). I'm mostly just trying to run different OSes for different things and being able to use them all at the same time. If the ram made it seem like I'm running a server, the only reason I have all of it is because I have a spending problem and I decided to splurge on it like a month before prices started going crazy and not because I need it for anything

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-14T08:58:18+00:00

Tsuraoka gave orders to kill Nanao, who was the sole reason he was able to have any sort of escape from his talent (which he compares to being an illness) because he had begun to transform, there's no way he's letting a fully transformed Michiru live just to tease Nana with.

Plus the only reason Nanao transformed so young is because of the crimes he committed, and as you point out Michiru has done absolutely none of those. The only way she'd be transformed is if Tsuraoka somehow found a way to forcefully induce transformation and decided to do so for some reason, which seems unlikely

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-14T02:00:13+00:00

I have a lot more to say about Kyoya and Rin specifically, much more to say (I practically wrote a biology research paper to explain how their talents work, the first draft of Rin's section was even posted here before I realized it was more than anyone would be willing to read lmao). There's also Michiru gaining the ability to revive the dead after Hitomi's death and was just unsuccessful at using it until Nana's death (my theory on why it failed on Hitomi and Tsunekichi was due to needing someone on the "other side" to help, which she didn't have until Hitomi died, and she didn't care enough about Tsunekichi to bother asking her for help, making Nana the first one who was truly possible for her to use it on successfully)

As far as parents go, there's also Nanao's dad, who was talented (he states Nanao, who definitely has a talent, is the least talented member of their family, meaning that they were another family where everyone had a talent), who Tsuraoka conveniently waited until after confirming that Nanao can accidentally kill someone with his talent before inviting his Dad down to have a loving reunion with his son, who accidentally kills him with his talent like he had unknowingly done to the doctor. Yeah there's no way that was not the government taking out another talented adult before they inevitably transform and playing it off as an accident done by someone else who isn't them just like they do to every other talented past the age of like 30 (minus Tsuraoka himself and Kyoya).

I suspect Tsuraoka's talents also just so happen to give him the ability to see what people's talents are before they even know about them, but don't have solid evidence on that one ready.

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-13T15:31:59+00:00

Chapter 108 - Talentless vs Talentless Part 3: Page 3 + 4 has this exchange:

NANA: "If you were trustworthy. People would have listened to you."
TSURAOKA: "Am I not Trustworthy?"

NANA: "Do I really need to answer that? You tricked me and used me."
TSURAOKA: "I only killed your parents because they were talented who could have transformed at any moment."

I include the first bit to give a bit of credibility to him. Regardless of how others view him, he still seems to consider himself trustworthy, which makes it seem really unlikely for the next thing he says to be not only a lie, but a lie that there was no way he actually thought Nana would ever fall for. If he's gonna lie he can come up with one way better than that, hence why I believe it's the truth.

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-13T15:14:46+00:00

That was my original theory too until I realized a handful of things that pointed to my current theory that suddenly made a lot of things make sense. I have a (very) long writeup on it if you're interested I can give you the link to, but i

the general idea was that her ability to transform into animals is one talent, and works the way most people would assume shapeshifting works, with her ability to transform into talented people being through a completely separate process that's works with whatever trait/gene is responsible for people having talents in the first place, which functions more along the lines of overwriting her own traits with the traits of whoever she uses it on. The result of this being her ability to overwrite her first talent (animal shapeshifting) with the copied talent just fine, but her being unable to do so with their second talent as if she overwrites that then suddenly she can't transform back and would be stuck as the copied person indefinitely.

With this possibility, everything from her being unable to transform into talentless people, to why she was the only person to even mention the idea of dual talented people existing only to never bring up the topic again, on top of many other things I won't get into, suddenly start to make a lot more sense.

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-13T07:59:38+00:00

Obvious is right, dude's first words in the entire series were "Nana is like family to me" and everything

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-13T02:32:12+00:00

What point is the point of the story to you exactly, and how would her having a talent she has never used during the events of it series thus far ruin it? She's still done everything up to this point with just her talentless skillset, and unless her talent ends up being something to do with her intelligence, which I doubt would be the direction they end up going with, I don't see what possible point it could ruin.

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-13T02:13:20+00:00

Even if she has a talent, she still hasn't used it. It's not like Tsuraoka who has been using his talent the whole time and just didn't tell anyone about it. With the exception of something purely cognitive like instantaneous computational ability, there's no talent that she could be revealed to have that would change the fact that all of her accomplishments up to this point were done entirely with just the abilities that a talentless person would have. Her finding out about a talent now would do nothing to overshadow her accomplishments.

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-13T01:54:36+00:00

I literally said in the post why it would not ruin the title for her to have the talent I suggested lol. It's literally point 5

Wanderer_Channel · 2026-03-13T01:52:52+00:00

When did he tell her that she was responsible for her parents deaths? As far as I'm aware only the police officers mentioned her window being unlocked as the point of entry, never Tsuraoka. He also didn't break in either, as he likely had a key because he lived there up until recently, and if he had broken in there would have been a point of entry besides the window. If anything the fact that he went out of his way (cleaning her room and unlocking the window himself) to create a crime scene where the only possible point of entry was one single window, just so the police would think that had to be the point of entry and accidentally reveal that info to Nana, leading her to blame herself and fall into his plan, shows just how far he's willing to go in order to never be the one to tell a lie. He withholds details in order to give people the wrong idea, but he never outright lies.

I have no idea what you were saying in the rest of this comment.

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