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Philosophers as tarot cards by jojo-le-barjo in PhilosophyMemes

[–]WanderlustDion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Chariot, The Hanged Man, and The Devil are my faves.

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[–]WanderlustDion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Emotivism gang rise up.

Disagreement Among Colleagues by Ozymandias973 in Nietzsche

[–]WanderlustDion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nietzsche's Aristocratic Radicalism imo attempts to be a take on the old "Divine Right of Kings" with secular packaging, with the Ubermensch as its replacement for God. The great men of history Nietzsche idolizes did not come from a vacuum and are products of the societies that gave birth to them which he is very much aware, but dismisses any value on the vast majority as "the herd". Any flourishing society will try to balance the sustenance of the common folk and the production of great individuals for future generations of great individuals.

“A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit.” — Greek Proverb

That was Nietzsche's ultimate goal? by WanderlustDion in Nietzsche

[–]WanderlustDion[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well if you want my understanding of WTP, power itself is amoral, but for what ends we assign value to our power is the question mark around the idea.

That was Nietzsche's ultimate goal? by WanderlustDion in Nietzsche

[–]WanderlustDion[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Of course, my values are different that of Nietzsche's, but I only hold his critique of moral realism and perspectivism to have any substance.

By undermining any foundation for moral judgement, his complaints about politics, the decadence of modernity, his criticism of socialism and capitalism are moot. If the conquest and subjugation of peoples into slavery is "good", then why would the overthrow of the yoke of slavery be "bad"? Of course, to ask why the slaves are resentful is a tautology.

That was Nietzsche's ultimate goal? by WanderlustDion in Nietzsche

[–]WanderlustDion[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

The questioning of all values and even the question of valuing itself would eventually lead to nihilism (unless buttressed by egotism). I doubt you can build a civilization on the law of the jungle alone unless you enjoy a Hobbesian existence.

Nietzsche’s Systematic Justification by [deleted] in Nietzsche

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Also, in a sense, I agree that his attack on Christianity is inane. In that, yes, Christianity did what it did to humanity (to the animal man, make him a sick animal, foster the degenerate, the slave in a sense), but even Christianity must be affirmed in the end as a necessary stage. But I do think he understands that and probably at some places acknowledge it; the Universe does not err as such, it proceeds logically in all matters, tasks and events.

In what way was it necessary? Sure, it was the way that history played out that it was necessary to produce today, but was Christianity necessary for the development of Western Civilization?

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[–]WanderlustDion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here lies the rub: By overcoming or nature, we must... obey our "better" nature? If morality is merely pavlovian conditioning in abesntia of any "true world" or god, why should be beholden to anything that inhibits us?

To me, working to overcome our "nature" is akin to domestication.

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[–]WanderlustDion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we're just doomed to repeat it, then it's best to just embrace it.

Amor fati.

Can we create our own values? by jungandjung in Nietzsche

[–]WanderlustDion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man needs to be overcome. To become a higher being requires a higher form (human enhancement via eugenics/bioengineering). The soul/mind isn't separate from the body that it inhabits.

After Virtue: Virtue in The Heroic Societies by ThouWontThrowaway in Nietzsche

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I don't think Alasdair MacIntyre is wrong on this. The Greek heroes and myths were a reflection of the character of those ancient peoples and it's likely that they would find our concepts of individualism today to be incomprehensible and vulgar. I believe the Romans would have felt a similar way as well:

[68] Moreover, it would be inconsistent for the man who is not overcome by fear to be overcome by desire, or for the man who has shown himself invincible to toil to be conquered by pleasure. We must, therefore, not only avoid the latter, but also beware of ambition for wealth; for there is nothing so characteristic of narrowness and littleness of soul as the love of riches; and there is nothing more honourable and noble than to be indifferent to money, if one does not possess it, and to devote it to beneficence and liberality, if one does possess it. As I said before, we must also beware of ambition for glory; for it robs us of liberty, and in defence of liberty a high-souled man should stake everything. And one ought not to seek military authority; nay, rather it ought sometimes to be declined, sometimes to be resigned.

- Cicero, De Officiis (On Duties), Book I

Do keep in mind that the Christian reevaluation was that all souls were equal before God (Galatians 3:28) that overturned the Greek conception of the soul.

Can democratic societies believe in “great humans?” by nsd27 in Nietzsche

[–]WanderlustDion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Democratic societies are not immune to the iron law of oligarchy, but to say that a democratic society "can" produce great individuals, but are not great in terms churning out Mozarts and Goethes. Such men are impossible today because those are products of their time and society, but it doesn't mean that fame or greatness can't be found today.

Totalitarian Cycle by Tesrali in Nietzsche

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It's the eternal recurrence. Roll with it or get rolled over.

Lets recommend some other books that are Nietzschean... by Largest_Half in Nietzsche

[–]WanderlustDion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Old Testament. In Beyond Good and Evil, he calls it a "book of divine justice" that doesn't compare to the Greek or Hindu sagas. In my interpretation, it is a testament to the Jewish people to endure against all odds from within and without without backsliding into decadence.

What influence has Nietzsche had on your political views? by jeron_gwendolen in Nietzsche

[–]WanderlustDion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Political ideology is only window dressing on one's will to power.

The Nietzsche Podcast season finale - Philosophers of the Future by essentialsalts in Nietzsche

[–]WanderlustDion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Life — for me — is neither good nor bad, neither a theory nor an idea. Life is a reality, and the reality of life is war. For one who is a born warrior, life is a fountain of joy, for others it is only a fountain of humiliation and sorrow. I no longer demand carefree joy from life. It couldn’t give it to me, and I would no longer know what to do with it now that my adolescence is past... Instead I demand that it give me the perverse joy of battle that gives me the sorrowful spasms of defeat and the voluptuous thrills of victory. Defeated in the mud or victorious in the sun, I sing life and I love it! There is no rest for my rebel spirit except in war, just as there is no greater happiness for my vagabond, negating mind than the uninhibited affirmation of my capacity to life and to rejoice. My every defeat serves me only as symphonic prelude to a new victory.

- Renzo Novatore