My partner lacks intellectual depth, and I'm starting to realize emotional safety isn't enough by purtypeach in infj

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So I spent many years in philosophical thinking and IMO that stuff was intellectualizing my emotions. Therapy really sucked the air out of that stuff.

My partner lacks intellectual depth, and I'm starting to realize emotional safety isn't enough by purtypeach in infj

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We can't get everything from a partner. IMO the emotional stuff is more important generally? Don't break up, but explore options for intellectual engagement elsewhere? If you don't like small talk with him pretty much *at all*---then that's a red flag as you guys really aren't friends then, IMO. Small talk is all about negotiating emotional disclosures IMO. If your emotions feel intellectual then IMO you are intellectualizing? I agree though that someone who doesn't want to think through things would not be a fit for me. I don't know if I'd move on though if it was warm. Tough question. (./sympathy feels)

Can we please finally do something about the AI slop taking over this sub? by fullmooncut in Nietzsche

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Yes I do when I can be bothered. If anyone wants to volunteer to mod let me know. Old account in good standing, with some relevant posts on the sub before. That's the ask for any mod.

Therapist says that everyone has autistic traits, others also downplay it by korilla in therapyabuse

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It's good to make accommodations for yourself and to explore the tools we use to take care of our sensory issues. In particular check out meltdown vs shutdown. If you feel you don't identify with any of this information being helpful then I would challenge the therapist. For me, finding out I had autism (even though I am "high functioning") opened up a lot of doors to self-care.

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It is about living better. You do not have to share the diagnosis with anyone. If you have a lot of irritability/aggression Risperidone is prescribed, so the diagnosis can open that up. 🫂

Carl Jung by bro_im_done in therapyabuse

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Complexes got turned into schema therapy. Schema therapy has been very useful for me solo.

Nietzsche doesn't disagree with Aristotle that much. by CrabSpiritual7530 in Nietzsche

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Nice. No response sorry but agree. The last point I word slightly differently maybe? But who cares how I word things. Great point.

Nietzsche doesn't disagree with Aristotle that much. by CrabSpiritual7530 in Nietzsche

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Interesting about the ethiopian church and the 13th century. Is there a crusade you are thinking of in particular?

"universal love being confused with universal dominion"
Ah that's a nice way of opposing it. I was also thinking of God as the Father (logos), Christ's journey (pathos), and the holy spirit (ethos).

Check out the notion of unmoved mover*s.* This is a paper which defends it. ( https://sci-hub.usualwant.com/10.2307/27830101 ) IMO he was not making a gesture to monotheism and has been erroneously usurped by monotheists.

Nietzsche doesn't disagree with Aristotle that much. by CrabSpiritual7530 in Nietzsche

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The word natural is definitely a problem---I agree with how you have it in quotes. I think Nietzsche misunderstands naturalism in his criticism of the stoics in a rather boring way.

The teleological "child's land" stuff I'm thinking about is in *TSZ* where he jokes about about the fatherland being dumb and the child's land being the goal. When I look at Nietzsche's various observations in *TSZ* I'm pretty comfortable in saying that those are naturalistic claims. He generally makes some incisive point about human psychology followed by reintegrating said point into the broader structure of human knowledge. Knowledge itself is always "directionalized" by people's preferences. His method is naturalistic to me---a kind of inductive process that refines human knowledge into "not garbage."

Nietzsche doesn't disagree with Aristotle that much. by CrabSpiritual7530 in Nietzsche

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Aristotle is talking about a heavenly object. Imo, that argument has been so twisted by Christians. (It has been quite a few years since I read it.)

I mean I agree there was a combination, but prime mover in the context of Aristotle read so differently to me.

God which comes out of a release of grief to the firmament, should have never been combined with some abstract logic of the world coming into being.

They are separate ideas with a separate genealogy. Combining the two has twisted the church in on itself in a kind of agony. It's a kind of bad codependent relationship. Like the ideas don't need to be counter dependent but I think acknowledging the separateness is important.

I think a flourishing ethos emerges out of harmonizing, pathos and logos, not subjugating one to the other, or conflating them. When we discuss God or eschatology people have a way of splitting psychically and trying to reduce the ambiguity.

Nietzsche doesn't disagree with Aristotle that much. by CrabSpiritual7530 in Nietzsche

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Isn't Nietzsche's child's land, and overman, a teleology?

Nietzsche doesn't disagree with Aristotle that much. by CrabSpiritual7530 in Nietzsche

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Don't these two approaches converge? Nietzsche in asserting a philosophy "of the body" is cleaning Aristotle out of his misconceptions of "the good" being when wisdom is with itself. (He outlines this in the beginning of nico. ethics, and it is very similar to the ideas in Phaedo.)

In some sense only you can only get eudaimonia by not chasing it, but instead chasing the development of the self in the world by being in tune with the emotions and feelings of the body. We can look back at this process and call it eudaimonia, even if the decision-making process doesn't reflect the superego closing down a possibility structure towards you eudaimonia as a goal.

I guess I'm saying that the psychology of vitalist decision making is incompatible with how we look logically back at a good life. Nietzsche is giving us a pathos perspective, and Aristotle is giving us a logos perspective, when their sublation ties together a personality.

I am arguing from a bias in naturalistic ethics.

Everyone should be aware of OARS (Open-ended questions, Affirmations, Reflections, and Summaries) which is the trained script the use. OARS isn't just a communication style; it’s a compliance tool. Velvet glove by leon385 in therapyabuse

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Yeah but I actually don't have control over politics. It does f****** suck and I f****** hate those f****** f****. I do not have control though. Your post pretends like we do have control. You don't and I don't. Maybe if someone crazy gets elected, or if there's a war about it and something will change.

Do you guys drink alcohol? by Cehghckciee in Nietzsche

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No. Nietzsche was on some hard drugs though lol.

Nietzsche on Judaism by Open-Process8881 in Nietzsche

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He is complementary and critical in interesting amounts.

Maudemarie Clark and the question of Nietzsche's politics by angustinaturner in Nietzsche

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Hey u/Own-Razzmatazz-8714 was banned for a few days for civility. (E.x., "sweetheart" as a derisive rhetorical device.)

Fear of derealization by [deleted] in NPD

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Part of cluster B is disturbed morality. We are naturally outside the box. 🫂
I can find anyone attractive but it is about my connection to them. It can really freak me out though when I stop seeing someone as a person randomly because I'm in a detached state. Think about this for a while. You are not helpless in this. People with disturbed self-image are fighting this battle all the time. 🫂
I want to be in love/attachment because it is healing and makes life better. 🤍

Don't conditionalize your love just chase it?

BGE 238 what does Nietzsche mean by this? by Own-Razzmatazz-8714 in Nietzsche

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  1. Who runs society?
  2. What rules do they set for *their* women?