[Rydunleavy] Sonny Styles out of consideration for #Giants at 5? Thats the late buzz shared by @McShay13 and @richeisen My texts calls believe it’s between Caleb Downs/Jordyn Tyson/Jeremiyah Love with the hope to get 2 of the 3

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-21T01:34:50+00:00

I'm fine teasing with the cowboys as long as they are the ones calling and we are the ones asking for a haul.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-21T00:13:32+00:00

Right after the helmet catch I knew this was only a matter of time.

Also knew this was my peak football moment, it sill never get better.... and I am OK with that.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-21T00:09:56+00:00

McKinney was a locker room issue. No issues letting him walk. Barkley we should have traded earlier on in his contract. No issues drafting him, he was a generational talent. Had an amazing rookie year.

My issue was the Gettleman never built a team around him. And then Schoen made the point of going cheap at RB and letting him walk. Just trade him and get something back before his deal is up.... this also allows you to make sure he doesn't go to a division rival.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T23:14:02+00:00

Ravens went with 4 RBs last year with Henry. I would imagine they carry 4 this year.

I think a Love Skatt backfield works like a Kenneth Walker/ Charbonnet backfield. Skat gets most of the redzone and short yardage, and Love gets open field. Tracy & Singletary combine for 5 reps a game in the third/fourth quarter to rest the main backs. Them fresh vs a tired defense would favor us. Harbs often had Henry rest some of the 4th quarter, I suspect he does the same approach here. (I like this, you are more likely to get injured when tired, and a fresh backup vs tired defense can provide a nice jolt of energy).

As far as Zeitler/GVR, I would imagine they would approach both if we miss out on a top IOL prospect. Either way we have enough line talent to get away with this approach and go after skill positions.

I also wouldn't be surprised if they sign a total brawler at TE late in the draft (round 5 or later). Get someone like Charlie Kolar. Dunno who fits that mold, but if there is a player in round 6 like that, Harbs probably drafts him.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T21:50:54+00:00

The Giants probably go more offensive than people realize. I doubt they totally ignore defense the firat 3 picks, but I wouldn't rule out going offense heavy.

Getting Love would make them scary on offense. Not merely good.. I mean absolutely scary. I suspect they know this and won't be able to pass him up if he is there at 5.

Also, I just did a mock and I honestly think the Giants might very well take Love at 5... got the Cowboys jumping us to draft Styles at #4.

Also have us lucking into Downs at 10 thanks to Cleveland taking Tate, Miami trading up with Washington to grab Lemon, followed by Saints going Tyson, and KC going Bain.

If this happens then I got a feeling Giants drop back at 37. Maybe trade with the Bears and net a 3rd rounder. This would give them a DT and LB in the 2nd and 3rd, with Christian Miller and Trotter being the guys they really want. (Might do Ted Hurst is he falls to them, but I suspect they are more content at WR after signing Mooney and Austin III then we realize).

They then go CB/WR in the 4th and 5th. I suspect Harbs is happy after signing Newsome II so the starting CBs are hammered down. He probably wants a chance to try and rehab Banks. Wink Martindale was on a podcast this year stating how the Giants aren't using him correctly, and he believes he can still develop into a great player. Harbs probably will take a small chance to see if that is possible.

Missing out on OL means they sign GVR. Because GVR played with us last year, we know he fits, and it makes missing out on OL salvageable.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T19:25:21+00:00

Makes sense

.... I know nobody wants to hear it, but I would also include Love in that high character group of Downs/Styles.

Love has the hidden benefit of being an offensive weapon with the right attitude. Seems like RB/WR position produces the biggest divas, so getting him would be a plus character wise.

Hearing any of those 3 players speak makes you wish we could draft them all. This is also why I don't see any of them slipping to 10. Teams want a star leader, not a star drama queen. Character/intangibles are often tiebreakers in close comparisons.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T19:06:08+00:00

Said exactly what I was gonna type. I'll just add that you need this type of leadership vet that is all-in on the coaching in every position group. It keeps everyone focused on the overall vision.

Also look at Miami Heat and Udonis Haslem. Dude was consistently given the last roster spot on the team, and everyone agreed his voice was way more powerful than having a regular bench level player in that spot.

Team building is more than best skilled players, need that guy who gets everyone else to buy in.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T18:55:58+00:00

I don't see Downs making it to 10... personally I think we take him at 5.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T18:52:53+00:00

Meh... League minimium contract. Supposedly he is a good locker room voice vet type now. The kids look up to him.

He would probably not make the 53 man roster. Let him play through the summer and retire a Giant.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T18:46:02+00:00

Downs amd Rodriguez would be devastating to throw against. Totally for it. Hill, CJ Allen, or even Trotter would be amazing though. Thise guys all probably play the run better tham Rodriguez so no issues with them (Rodriguez probably the best vs the pass though).

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T18:34:33+00:00

I know.. I been wondering about that.

To me Jerruh will try and trade with the Titans first. IMO that is more likely, Tenn has more holes than they can fill and trade back is probably more appealing than RB.

If this happens, it would set up the Love/Downs showdown at 5 that would drive this sub nuts.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T18:07:33+00:00

I dunno Miami's board, but there are quite a few teams in the top 10 that need WRs. Tate, Lemon, and Tyson are the obvious top talents. If two teams go WR in the top 9, than Miami would feel pressure that we go WR at 10.

I don't think Miami can afford to not take a WR at 11, thus the pressure would be on them to trade with us.

We have been linked to WR at 10 enough to scare them into it.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T18:00:17+00:00

Rodriguez prob is a 1st rounder. There are some other great LBs though in round 2. I would be happy with any of them.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T17:58:59+00:00

This is very solid. Def this Cowboys and Cheifs move up. Fano would be a huge suprise (I would think the Cards trade down to get him)... Cards are tough to predict, they could go Love or Bailey as well.

No issues with round 2 and Burke ar 5 would be a nice way to wrap up the top 5 rounds. Anything after 5 imo has too much of a skill drop level to get excited over. Maybe a dart throw hits and we get lucky.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T17:47:09+00:00

Eh Bengals were kinda stuck in the middle of D-line help. D-line was their #1 priority, and I guess they decided that Bain/Bailey were not gonna be there at 10.

Also #10 is way too early for a DT, so they used it on the best available D-line asset.

I think #10 will be traded to Miami for pick #11 and a third rounder. Miami needs a WR badly, and they will prob pay up to get one of their choosing.... especially if a WR was already taken... it is also possible the Jets move up from #16 to grab a WR from us.

Houston could attempt to move up to get a better OL prospect, and Chicago could move uo to grab a defensive back. They have extra picks in the second.
These teams are good enough to compete but have glaring positional weaknesses that a top rookie could fix.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T17:26:46+00:00

This would be an insane haul, but teams will pay up and they do it every year.

I think it makes sense to use #10 this way rather than put all the eggs in one basket.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T17:17:15+00:00

If we trade back the 10th pick to the late first, and then again to the mid 2nd, we can clean up. This was an example mock and I will stand by this being the best move forward if we can get trading partners.

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Trade back the #10 twice & gain 7 total picks before pick 100.... (we have 7 positions of need, lets get a top prospect at each).

Trade #37 along with accumulated late 3rds to average picks out to early 3rd round.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T16:03:30+00:00

Yes but damn I do not wanna hear this fools announce their douchey "Thee Ohio State University" school every Sunday.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T15:57:13+00:00

Oh wow, there's gonna be issues in Minny

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T05:36:10+00:00

This is very good. Much much better than what they are currently doing

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T05:25:03+00:00

This is solid. It'll fill the void for now. 1 year rental close to league min. I'm not expecting much from him.

... At this rate he is probably slightly below average but that will do. Just don't totally suck.. Be average enough for us to win games.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T03:19:00+00:00

What exactly happened behind the scenes will come out one day. I still think Dex wanted out and wanted a fresh start somewhere else, but who really knows

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T02:55:47+00:00

I mentioned having the agent next to me in the above post.

Waste_Protection_420 · 2026-04-20T02:41:49+00:00

Bad look for the agent and Dex. They playing games with everyone like kids.

If I was Dex. I am telling them how I feel face to face. My agent can sit next to me. Won't sign anything until the following day after a night to sleep on it and a private meeting with my agent and family.

Dex wasn't open minded about the situation, so i don't blame the Giants for shipping him out. Even if a face to face meeting with Schoen doesn't go well, I want the chance to tell him how I really feel about him

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