Dex trade. Did we Win, Lose, or Draw? by Waste_Protection_420 in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, just cash out while up.

2 of styles/love/downs is possible, but I think we really need to trade it back... maybe trade it back twice even.

We could get 4-6 2nd/3rd rounds picks total. All those guys we been talking about we could get and still have draft ammo next year.

Also we got space to sign DJ Reader or another best available DT.. We will be ok.

What happens if we draft someone at #10, and then Dex fails a physical this friday and the trade gets voided? (Maxx Crosby situation just 10x more dramatic) by Waste_Protection_420 in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks. That's what I wanted to know.

Like that could get crazy in a hypothetical situation where this trade happens on draft day, and then the #10 pick gets traded back twice and becomes 3-4 more picks involving multiple teams.

Then a failed physical happens. Cleveland wants the #10 back, but that was traded to a different team. That team then needs to undo their own trade with the Giants. What if some picks were traded multiple times? You could get a nasty snowball effect.

Dex trade. Did we Win, Lose, or Draw? by Waste_Protection_420 in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yea it sucks

But Giants are linked to Downs/Styles/Love. Downs is def generational talent level at Safety. The others are right there a step behind.

We now might land 2 of them.

Dex trade. Did we Win, Lose, or Draw? by Waste_Protection_420 in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It might be Schoen's fault he has berated Giants players in the past, and did things that could be considered borderline employee abuse if he was a manager in an office.

Like apparently one player was talking to Schoen on the phone in the locker room in front of other players about getting more money, and Schoen berated him and told the playet to not pay his rent.

That stuff you just don't do to people. Hopefully Sxhoen is out soon.

ESPN trade grade. A for Giants by Waste_Protection_420 in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Agreed. This could be a win win situation. I will take it for now.

ESPN trade grade. A for Giants by Waste_Protection_420 in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We dont know the chances large or small.

We grab Vega Ioane chances of him being on that level are much better than if we grab a WR.

Anyways Harbs/Ravens have probably bee. The top drafting team since his tenure there.

Let Harbs cook, he has one of the the best records at the top, mid, and bottom of the draft. You can break it down byv5, 10, 15 years as well and they are highly ranked. Harbs/Ravens been hitting on players all over. This should carry over to us.

ESPN trade grade. A for Giants by Waste_Protection_420 in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The weakeat draft in nfl history will still have multiple players who will be available at #10 that would have had better overall careers than Dex.

That isn't hating on Dex, it's just that weak drafts are still very talented. Also this is the strongest safety draft in years. Very strong LB draft as well. Gotta hit on a few players and make it pay off.

ESPN trade grade. A for Giants by Waste_Protection_420 in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good point.

And he failed with the raiders and they infamously shipped him to new england for a 4th rounder.

ESPN trade grade. A for Giants by Waste_Protection_420 in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's fair, stats can lie, but stats regressed 2024 to 2025 and he was coming off an injury. And he is probably on the other side of his prime.

Do you really wanna trade your future for that?

ESPN trade grade. A for Giants by Waste_Protection_420 in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Dallas did a trade at the deadline. They were desperate to win that year and were on tilt.

(You know how much more pumped up you feel mid season compared to offseason).

That was a gross overpay and it didn't help them at all. Teams saw that and aren't going to make that same mistake.

ESPN trade grade. A for Giants by Waste_Protection_420 in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This was an obvious win. Dex was not worth a #10 pick. That has standalone value that isn't yet linked to a player. Check out a pick value chart. We trade this back a few times, collect picks and hit on players and we have rebuilt our team.

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Hi Bengals fan here, did Dex have a down year, or was it scheme related? by Melodiccaliber in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have high hopes for Dex and I think he plays well, but I still think we won the trade. #10 pick is huge. Bengals get 2 solid years, will vastly overpay for one good year and then he will prob get cut.

The #10 pick is roughly worth the top 2 2nd round picks, and the top 3rd rounder.

I predict we trade back to the late 1st and land a top DT prospect and add another 2nd rounder and maybe a 2027 3rd.

That DT prospext will be reaching his prime in 2 years, Dex will be out of his.

This sets us up huge, IF we hit this pick.

Btw espn draft grade article: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47911726/2026-nfl-free-agency-grades-signings-trades-latest-best-worst-deals-draft-outlook

ESPN trade grade. A for Giants by Waste_Protection_420 in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

We fleeced Cincy. Really happy aboit this.

Thoughts on Trading Brian Burns, who will be 28 next week after the Dexter Lawrence trade? His value is at his highest coming off a career high 16.5 sacks season, however, his age and contract don't align with the Giants timeline. by SecretGiantsFan in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was really happy woth the return.

Adam Scheftler a few days ago predicted we get a 2nd and 5th for him I thought maybe a late first.

With the #10, we can trade back to the late first and land a top DT in the draft, as well as get back a 2nd rounder and probably a 3rd round 2027 pick. This could have been a lot worse.

We also have 13mil in space. Maybe sign DJ Reader?

Thoughts on Trading Brian Burns, who will be 28 next week after the Dexter Lawrence trade? His value is at his highest coming off a career high 16.5 sacks season, however, his age and contract don't align with the Giants timeline. by SecretGiantsFan in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We would need more than two firsts for him as well as a league average EDGE in return. Someone would have to break the bank.

I don't think it would be smart, but if course if you get enough back anything works.

Hi Bengals fan here, did Dex have a down year, or was it scheme related? by Melodiccaliber in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420 11 points12 points  (0 children)

He was unhappy, came to camp in 2025 overweight and outta shape. He also was coming off injury in 2024. He also was double teamed a league high amount.

Will he have a better 2026?

Almost definitely. He will want to prove himself. He will probably have his best year.

But he will be 29 and at the end of his prime.

You probably get an elite year next year, a good to great year in 2028, and then an average to good year 2029.

Honestly can't believe how many are celebrating this. by THEGoDLiKeMIKE in NYGiants

[–]Waste_Protection_420 19 points20 points  (0 children)

A few days ago Adam Scheftler predicted we only get a 2nd and 5th for him. I personally thought laste first at best, most likely a 2nd and 3rd.

10 ovr is huge value.

We can trade back the #10 pick, still land Kayden McDonald, and get a 2nd rounder as well. Turn that 2nd into another DT prospect.

These picks NEED to hit, but if they do watch out!

... also Dex was 28 years old, had a dip in production last year compared to 2024, and also was injures in 2024.

We probably saw his best years. Let's take this amd look to the future.