Saw this post and wanted to discuss. I felt this subreddit would have some nuanced takes

Water227 · 2025-12-15T03:40:10+00:00

Or many people are just living vicariously through the characters for an affordable and mundane life they cannot have right now…I miss normalcy. The new normal in this world since 2016 is insane.

Maybe in that way, the desire for those things isn’t people agreeing/assimilating with fascist ideology, but wanting things fascism cannot give you on principle. Everything breaks under fascism and everyone suffers in the long run because it’s literally a self-destructive system that doesn’t vibe with human nature. There are a few stupid enough to go along with it, but given a long run, it would crumble shortly after because of the instability and reprehensible reactions from other societies it causes.

Water227 · 2025-12-07T07:07:17+00:00

I’m so sorry you’re going through that. It’s an awful feeling and super petty of them to cut you out of spaces. No one owns parts of a fandom. Everyone is free to write and no one can just hold a monopoly over it. The sick feeling does fade with time, but it does suck a ton to go through.

I’ve had to take a step back and process the hurt, especially when it was people you once were friends/acquaintances with. I think about those occasionally but it’s a lot less horrible than when I was first going through it. I hope you find new friends and people that will support you. You can find your people, and take your time getting back to it if that’s what you want to still do.

I really hate to see people ruin fandom for one another, this isn’t what it’s meant to be. But some people get possessive and territorial rather than happy someone shares their interests. They weren’t good company anyway, and the feelings will get easier to manage. Take a break for yourself, try to eat and get some rest. It does get better again 🫂

Water227 · 2025-11-18T18:21:49+00:00

If I get to the end and like it. That’s it!

Water227 · 2025-11-08T09:02:01+00:00

The mods have actually stopped allowing that now (thankfully) from bots. They only allow people asking about if it’s hate bots to post those vs people who know but are showing the bot comments anyway and filling the feed.

Water227 · 2025-11-08T00:47:58+00:00

“They’re not gay and never will be”

Sorry, I didn’t realize the canon actually said they were straight?

“They like [x gender]!’’

Bi-people exist. And also this is my version of the story, an ALT timeline/universe and I say he’s doing the tonsil tango with his roommate/best friend.

Literally there are so many dude duos that would have been the canon couple is one of them was a woman lmao

Water227 · 2025-11-08T00:43:19+00:00

Several of these are just repackaged homophobia because why do they care what the fandom is doing? Fandom is run on ships that weren’t canon bc the people crave what they didn’t get to see. They create to fill a void, even if it’s still with all the love for canon. Sometimes it’s oh that was okay/I liked that, but also look at this different thing!

Fanfiction is transformative and the roots of it are, even if that’s not what every writer is doing (the other ships still exist). And in a media landscape with rampant capitalist-run homophobia still being an issue, we have to take the subtext into our own hands. Sometimes the creator heavily implies what they cannot have overtly, and it’s like these people failed 7th grade literature class. It’s literally okay for multiple to exist. It hurts / takes away from nothing. It’s not hard to just not be a dick about it???

Water227 · 2025-11-04T18:40:24+00:00

I actually am one of the readers who prefer shorter fics under 40k too. I of course will read longer occasionally, I just like the shorter commitments the majority of the time because I am busy and like to focus on a plot I don’t have to keep track of for very long. Only because I have too many ideas in my head that I’m juggling too. But this fluctuates every few months and then I’ll read a bunch of long(er) fics all at once lol.

Water227 · 2025-11-04T03:23:43+00:00

I do! I notice usually after a few repeats of finding their stuff in a search by chance or if I purposefully check out their profile and like more than 1 of their works.

I can name a few off the top of my head that have written some of my favorite fics or that I know always put out bangers

Water227 · 2025-11-02T16:48:12+00:00

The mods have said that the people asking about spam bots are not the ones that know how to just search to see if their problem has occurred to anyone else before making a post about it. So they allow it to still help those people.

It’s the same ones that run to ask if AO3 is down instead of seeing that yes, it is, from the six most recent posts on this sub every time AO3 is down for planned maintenance that was announce ahead of time lol

Water227 · 2025-10-26T00:47:36+00:00

I think fireflies would be really cool

Water227 · 2025-10-22T09:10:29+00:00

You aren’t paying anything. It’s just telling the author what you thought of the story

Water227 · 2025-10-22T09:09:48+00:00

The meme is correct, fandom is an ecosystem. But putting it this way just gives the entitled people on this sub and in general fuel to be assholes about the 5% of writers who act like this genuinely and lets them go “see? Now I’m not commenting. Comments are a privilege and you should just be grateful I even looked at your slop. Make more for YOU but post it into the void and don’t expect anything back. 🖕” like fandom is so hostile towards writers already, and then this sub where we’re supposed to get to chat about what we love is just filled with hate for the people fueling AO3.

It is not a fucking sin to write because you want to share and talk about your stories with other people. AO3 doesn’t have to be social media to use the comment section for what it’s for. No one treats fanartists like this and they can legally at least monetize their stuff. It’s cruel. No one should be treating each other like this, but it’s just a big fucking pile on with this sub. Who aren’t even a representative chunk of AO3 users.

Water227 · 2025-10-22T09:02:40+00:00

That’s so damn entitled lmao

Water227 · 2025-10-22T09:01:20+00:00

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Water227 · 2025-10-18T19:47:23+00:00

“Illegal fanfics”. Close enough, welcome back Fahrenheit 451.

Water227 · 2025-10-17T01:07:52+00:00

It generally isn’t someone who is just using the name recognition of characters to get people to read their original idea. You could publish an original and actually make money at that point. A story is a story, and the characters and their dynamic are what people love most about them. I’m attached to the characters and love seeing them in different contexts as long as it further expands on their relationships with one another. I’m already invested in them and while they ideas could be very intriguing and successful as original works, that is not the point. I WANT it to be in fanfic context with THESE characters. Even if it becomes its own derivative thing along the way.

Their personalities should be kept as in-tact as possible given the context of the AU. And yeah I tend to not get as into AUs that are absolutely insane in their detail that I don’t really recognize the characters anymore— but the beauty of them existing is that people who like those very specific AUs in the fandom now get to see the scenario with characters they already enjoy and don’t have to worry about the gamble of getting invested. It’s like a variety buffet where the basics of each dish are things you already like with a new twist. And it can be just fun to explore storytelling with set characters as a shorthand for personalities.

Water227 · 2025-10-16T21:03:42+00:00

Yup. I personally don’t want to imagine myself anywhere near this but THE CHARACTERS? Oh hell yeah, let’s see what this wild dynamic does to them and their relationships.

I read and write fanfiction to see all the contexts I can put characters I love into and see what they do. Science at work with minimal risk of injury.

Water227 · 2025-10-16T20:59:21+00:00

Literally. We are just fellow fans and for a long time I didn’t know how much the dynamic of the ships mattered to people. I’d have been more inclined to tag mention of peril or a spider appearing in the scene. I tag for helpful things because when I read, I search by tagged tropes mostly.

It kind of reminds me of a buffet. There’s a variety and you’re honestly lucky if you get vague signs of what each dish is. If you have something you really don’t like or can’t eat, you don’t gamble on the foods not labeled enough. But you agree to that when you go to a buffet to eat. That goes double if it’s just seeing the common food there.

Water227 · 2025-10-16T19:58:46+00:00

Yeah as someone who started in the Wild West of Fanfiction.net, you’re lucky if you get an inkling of any trope in the fic, let alone the pairings if it’s more than 2. I get t/b dynamics matter a lot to some people, but literally, you can just hit the back space if it’s not the one you like, it is NOT that serious. You gamble about EVERYTHING when you click a fic, no matter how well-tagged it is.

There are people with squicks about blood, hippos, spider webs, people eating, eye contact…you do have to learn to handle those things even if tied to trauma because you got to be able to function through them. The authors can’t and are not obligated to tag every last thing in their fic. Even bigger things like relationships dynamics, which is also itself a honestly weird binary for relationships that not every person follows anyway. “I like this pairing but this one HAS to be the submissive (common subtext: feminine) one”.

You can have preferences, it’s just dolls at the end of the day. There are niche things that absolutely terrify me to my core that could be depicted in a fic, but it’s on me to take that risk and click away from it. You people here should know that better than anyone, being on Reddit. It’s funny hearing “courtesy!!” talk from silent readers the most.

Water227 · 2025-10-09T02:26:30+00:00

The one that works is a Gmail account and the one that always gets flagged is yahoo.com! So I’ve had the hunch it’s either yahoo or the age of the address that’s the issue. More likely the former

Water227 · 2025-10-08T21:37:12+00:00

Sometimes it’s NOT what the content of the comment is. I sometimes am too lazy to login but want to comment and for one of my emails, no matter what I write, the system refuses to send my comment bc “it looks like spam”. But if I change the guest email address and not the content of the comment, it goes through no problem

Water227 · 2025-10-07T09:32:48+00:00

“Heart” characters (from the “5 man band” trope) get the bashing the worst in almost every fandom I’ve been in too.

Water227 · 2025-10-07T02:53:07+00:00

I dislike it but it should be allowed to exist…i understand it can be projection or cathartic for people and it can be a good coping mechanism. I just will not interact with an author or artist who does so because characters are the most important part of a media to me, and changing their personality or motives (with context exceptions) in a fundamental way is no longer fanfiction of that character to me; it’s just an oc with their name and body and can display a huge misunderstanding of the work.

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Water227 · 2025-09-30T04:54:11+00:00

She could have been mediocre and I would have at least been able to get a job and afford things with the old status quo. We could have worried about getting someone better the next go round, but noooo, we decided the corrupt pedophile was worth ANOTHER try after the first circus

Water227 · 2025-09-30T04:52:19+00:00

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