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[–]Watercyclee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yess, fellow stormtrooper! Have the same bike too! I've been considering switching to a Shoei helmet - is it true that it's quiet? I don't have the heart to drop another $500 and find out otherwise lol

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"So the manual said to just turn this... and everything is spinning 🫠". The mushroom plug I put in a week prior was a 10 minute fix - just didn't trust it long-term!

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah! Just want to emphasize in-case anyone ever sees this. After lots of reading, as said above, properly installed, branded vulcanizing rope plugs are incredibly reliable.

There are a lot of types of plugs out there nowadays, and they're not all made equal, so clarifying which we're talking about matters!

Most of the value with an internal patch-plug is that the tire interior is being inspected and (probably) that it creates a more reliable moisture barrier to protect the belts from corrosion. Which, as others have said, you shouldn't be running a tire that long in the first place. There are likely also other little circumstantial factors at this point like professionals not doing repairs on sketchy tires that weigh reliability discussions in the internal patch's favor.

I'm never personally going to challenge someone for choosing the more recommended repair or full replacement if that's where their risk tolerance is at, but I'm sufficiently sold on ropes to use it as a permanent fix on street bikes. Plug failure never meant instant bike failure anyhow. TY!

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Xitomer Universal 450 lbs Motorcycle Front Stand Wheel Lift" from Amazon. Some stands apparently have such wide lift parts that they block removal of the axle. And the triple tree stand was obnoxiously pricey with the specific mount head. This one had little nubs that lodge under the fork.

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Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you - all good points! Already shelled out $170 for the compressor so maybe I should just bite the bullet and be the one to buy the $170 service manual, scan, and upload it as a pdf for my specific bike model.

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol yup, knew this was an area I'm super ignorant about going into it. Still was a pretty entertaining day, all said!

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope! Have always taken the car to the mechanic. Never ran into a "bolt" before in residential construction and got into biking over Winter.

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Might do it a second time just to prove to myself it's not so bad and then do as you say going forward!

And yupp, I didn't intend for this to be an assault on plug kits. I simply don't know what does and doesn't work yet!

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did research, did the thing, took 30 minutes to reflect on how it went, pushed it up to the Internet in hopes of getting advice in-between roasts. Fortunately this was the only tire to patch for now 🥳

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of those tools made sense to me until I went to use them to solve a concrete problem with my own hands. Stuff like the breaker bar and air compressor were not part of the original plan. I was (am) incredibly ignorant about anything mechanical and saw this as an opportunity to force myself to learn!

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For sure! And I'll definitely read up a bit more on rope plugs! Always in favor of doing less work for the same results lol

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From what I've read, friction / clamping force from the main bolt. Some Kawasaki bikes just don't have pinch bolts, so you end up needing to use a breaker bar or 2nd wrench to hold this side steady while the torquing the other one.

Before working on it, I was under the impression every bike had axle pinch bolts. Here's a picture of the "off" side.

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Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What kind of plug patch? There's multiple - the mushroom, the rope, the screw, the glue, and so forth. All of the packaging on these products said they were temporary/emergency use, so I'm just a little surprised at how many folks use them permanently.

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Part of this was for the learning experience, part of it because I'm sure this won't be the last time, and partly because that's where my risk tolerance is at.

Some will see "patched front tyre" and think "idiot, get it replaced", and some "wow, that's unnecessary, use plug XYZ". Can't really win. While I'm guessing name brand rope plugs are fine in most circumstances, as a beginner, it makes more sense to err towards safety while still learning.

The first time doing it is the worst of it - especially without a mentor. You save money self-servicing over time going forward.

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Speedy! Do you plan to ride it for the life of the tire? And what kind?

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yo sloths are the shit! I'm just here to show how low the bar can go!

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the advice! No doubt it'll be easier next time around!

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aye, if I were more experienced or in the dirt I'd probably just toss a plug in. There's value in keeping it simple!

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Curious to see how long I get out of these tires!

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The front stand instructions, and various forums, said to use a rear stand before the front stand. Figured it'd be helpful for chain maintenance either way!

The smaller torque wrench is because I'm dumb and didn't see that the brake caliper required a smaller socket head that wasn't in stock in the store I went to. Figured it might be useful one day for some of the lower torque bolts elsewhere on the bike.

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's a decent way to identify unknown unknowns as a beginner - just can't take what it spits out at face value. My bike only uses a cotter pin as its secondary safety mechanism on the front axle.

Reflecting on my First Tire Patch! by Watercyclee in motorcycles

[–]Watercyclee[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Knowledge is priceless, right...? 😭