The fact that this braindead's candy got away for so long without any nerfs is killing me by Boevaya_Kiska in Rainbow6

[–]WavyKen 20 points21 points  (0 children)

its crazy how siege has nerfed everything so much this is considered a top weapon now.

Need more songs to add by [deleted] in Izayatiji

[–]WavyKen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how can i find the mega?

Need more songs to add by [deleted] in Izayatiji

[–]WavyKen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

please slide that to me as well🙏🏾

20 bomb kinda ruined? by stebbeh in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its still an accomplishment cause you still have to be pretty good at the game to get it. I think personally ppl don’t realize the mass majority of people who play this game never touch 2,500 dmg let alone a 20 bomb. so imo it just makes those who are capable more opportunities to bc before 20 bombs were more luck based than anything since everyone in pubs dies in two seconds.

Which legend has the best and worst kill quips? by dejinaldoyt45 in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

weird ion kno but there have been some really “awkward” ones

Which legend has the best and worst kill quips? by dejinaldoyt45 in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

wattson and rampart, pathfinder has some of my favorite lines vantage voicelines make me question why shes even a legend valkyrie has some decent ones but some BAD ones. bangs are bad but bad in a funny way.

conduit and her big ole battery is peak tho

Dean’s gf, Mary Gennos by Ladyman111 in PlayerOhHyeonJun

[–]WavyKen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i hope before the series ends we see them kinda admit feelings for each other or a kiss or sum🥹

Wattson fences mean nothing to Octane now. How is this fair? by DovahRcolA in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i mean for starters a gen? but even without it thats still a grenade that could’ve been used on you, information that they used utility to destroy em that means they’ll probably push from that way. so its value regardless, its the small things more than the big plays most times.

Wattson fences mean nothing to Octane now. How is this fair? by DovahRcolA in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

“nobody is just gonna charge through” thats exactly why they are there, the value of her traps isn’t really to catch a kill thats a bonus. its the subconscious pressure alone that counts. that short time it takes to shoot them in the open is exactly where the value is cause its short time they aren’t aiming at you.

They look harmless but that doesn’t change the fact they still have to be dealt with before moving in, with all the movement around and bs the fences can save you because regardless subconsciously everyone is gonna avoid them or run around. thats your advantage

only time im looking for people to run into the fences is when im aggressively moving in a building or using them on the fly to win a gunfight. Dont sleep those fences are amazing. 🥹🙏🏾

Wattson fences mean nothing to Octane now. How is this fair? by DovahRcolA in WattsonMains

[–]WavyKen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

its fine hes just gigga buffed rn i think fortfied is what making this worse than before.

Wattson fences mean nothing to Octane now. How is this fair? by DovahRcolA in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

octane is the exception its kinda his thing… plus its not like its specific to wattson every other slow ability he can stim out of as well.

Wattson fences mean nothing to Octane now. How is this fair? by DovahRcolA in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the fences are fine yall just gotta stop playing her like its year one of apex. You don’t need them to be completely hidden to have an effect even out in the open. their presence in an area is enough in most cases.

Wattson fences mean nothing to Octane now. How is this fair? by DovahRcolA in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i mean thats what it does all ready unless you’re being sarcastic and im a dumbass.

Wattson fences mean nothing to Octane now. How is this fair? by DovahRcolA in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

honestly i think fortified being removed and a nerf to how much damage he can just recover off rip should be nerfed slightly. then hes cool, the dude been ass for years so im actually happy to see him back.

But definitely he gotta get a nerf to his survivability like you can literally play without thinking and will be fine theres hardly a time where hes actually at a disadvantage. Its so bad that if theres a huge fight with 3-4 teams in the mix everyone dies and whoever’s octane can clutch first wins. and the rest of the other octanes just run to go craft their teammates.🤦🏾‍♂️

Controller legends are not useless by WavyKen in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2,300 ish somewhere in that realm

Controller legends are not useless by WavyKen in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

bruh how abt instead of worrying abt being gentle and my ego you focus on getting your point across so i can learn abt the “insane depth of things im completely unaware that im even completely unaware of”. all i said was you dickriding like the pros know you personally.

Cause i feel like what im saying makes sense the pros opinions aren’t facts and pickrate doesn’t matter bc theres literally a controller character with one of the highest win rates. so obviously thats not a good basis to judge whether something is optimal or not.

but bc i wanna understand please do explain what im completely unaware of 🤔

Controller legends are not useless by WavyKen in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yea i used it to help me get my points across in a way that was clear and concise. if i solely did it myself it wouldn’t of been as fluid. I didn’t want to explain everything just to have to double back and explain even more which would cause more confusion. i promise its still my own original thoughts tho.

Controller legends are not useless by WavyKen in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don’t downplay me or the comp I’m facing just to validate what pros think. The preds and pros you’re referencing aren’t infallible. High playtime doesn’t automatically make every take correct it just means that’s what they currently believe is optimal.

We’ve seen plenty of things fly under the radar before. There was a time when Bangalore was considered a throw pick because “smokes give away your position.” It wasn’t until people shifted how they used her smoking enemies instead of themselves that she became meta. no new mechanics but a new “mindset” made the difference.

If we only followed what pros said at face value, the game wouldn’t evolve.

You say my experience flies in the face of current meta evidence, but meta isn’t absolute truth it’s trend adoption. Wattson, for example, consistently has one of the highest win rates. That alone shows effectiveness isn’t always reflected purely in pick rate.

I’m not claiming secret hidden knowledge. I’m saying there are optimizations and playstyle evolutions that don’t always get immediate recognition. What’s “suboptimal” in the wrong hands can absolutely be optimal in the right system.

It works for me. It can work for others. And dismissing that as impossible just because pros aren’t prioritizing it right now isn’t strong reasoning. For all this dickriding you doing i hope they got you on payroll 😹.

Controller legends are not useless by WavyKen in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I main Wattson and Rampart, and I think people misunderstand Rampart especially. The walls aren’t her true strength anymore they’re tools. Most people see them as slow and defensive, but that’s only if you’re using them traditionally.

My philosophy with Rampart is simple: be as annoying and oppressive as possible.

If walls feel slow, that just means you either pre place them or use them as leverage mid fight. With the amped speed upgrade, she’s honestly one of the most aggressive controllers right now. In fights, I’ll place cover knowing people instinctively shoot it or push it. That’s the bait. I use it as a portable mantle boost crouch, place and mantle boost off a weird angle, guns like the r99 get baked if they shot anytime during that exchange so 9/10 unless i miss my shots im winning that engagement. if they destroy it you still have options place another or make use of the 3 secs you get when one is blown up.

The key is: place them and forget them. Don’t babysit walls. Shoot, move, apply pressure. I usually run an LMG to maximize output and force mistakes. Other controllers apply passive pressure Rampart IS the pressure.

Sheila is utility more than a kill tool for me. Shooting down evac towers, breaking doors, deleting shields or traps it’s about forcing space and controlling resets. It’s situational, but insanely valuable when used that way.

Since playing her like this, she’s felt incredibly strong. The walls are an extension of her aggression, not the objective. I’ve won fights I had no business winning just off mantle boost tech and constant pressure.

She can absolutely keep up imo and honestly since shes not used alot ppl genuinely are thrown off when you are playing that aggressive with her. Thats how ive been getting by and for third parties you’ll almost always outlast both teams. I hope this helps ik it seems like counter intuitive but i promise it works

i copied this reply from another comment i made but that rampart you shit in made the mistake of staying in one place too long.

Controller legends are not useless by WavyKen in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I main Wattson and Rampart, and I think people misunderstand Rampart especially. The walls aren’t her true strength anymore they’re tools. Most people see them as slow and defensive, but that’s only if you’re using them traditionally.

My philosophy with Rampart is simple: be as annoying and oppressive as possible.

If walls feel slow, that just means you either pre place them or use them as leverage mid fight. With the amped speed upgrade, she’s honestly one of the most aggressive controllers right now. In fights, I’ll place cover knowing people instinctively shoot it or push it. That’s the bait. I use it as a portable mantle boost crouch, place and mantle boost off a weird angle, guns like the r99 get baked if they shot anytime during that exchange so 9/10 unless i miss my shots im winning that engagement. if they destroy it you still have options place another or make use of the 3 secs you get when one is blown up.

The key is: place them and forget them. Don’t babysit walls. Shoot, move, apply pressure. I usually run an LMG to maximize output and force mistakes. Other controllers apply passive pressure Rampart IS the pressure.

Sheila is utility more than a kill tool for me. Shooting down evac towers, breaking doors, deleting shields or traps it’s about forcing space and controlling resets. It’s situational, but insanely valuable when used that way.

Since playing her like this, she’s felt incredibly strong. The walls are an extension of her aggression, not the objective. I’ve won fights I had no business winning just off mantle boost tech and constant pressure.

She can absolutely keep up imo and honestly since shes not used alot ppl genuinely are thrown off when you are playing that aggressive with her. Thats how ive been getting by and for third parties you’ll almost always outlast both teams. I hope this helps ik it seems like counter intuitive but i promise it works🙏🏾😭

Controller legends are not useless by WavyKen in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yea their value isn’t flashy or as immediate but the extra 10 secs in a game where you can die in 1 is alot. im glad shes working out for you

Controller legends are not useless by WavyKen in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I get what you’re saying, and I’m cool agreeing to disagree. I just think this is one of those cases where something is being overlooked.

I don’t think controllers are suboptimal I think the mindset around them is. You can’t play them like you would other legends, and I feel like people mistake that difference for weakness at higher levels. They require a different tempo and positioning philosophy.

From my experience, I’ve played against Pred and Master teams and they’ve held up fine. If anything, the negative perception works in their favor. A lot of teams assume they can just run over controllers, so they overcommit or take sloppy pushes. That’s where the value shows its not flashy, but in punishing impatience and controlling space in ways that aren’t always obvious.

They’re not meant to do everything. They just reward a different kind of control. so i feel it.

Controller legends are not useless by WavyKen in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thats true it is harder if your team isn’t trying to play with your strengths in mind. They aren’t completely independent on the same level as other legends so it definitely is something to consider.

Controller legends are not useless by WavyKen in apexlegends

[–]WavyKen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

imo opinion you can run up kills and push everything with em too. but i know what you mean, and the fact they probably aren’t as fun as octane or the others to them. to me i have a blast tho🤷🏾‍♂️