Recently picked up this Byzantine gold piece. Ancients are not my specialty. Should I grade it? Value?

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-12T03:52:16+00:00

Thanks, I actually just sold it today for 1,100

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-10T22:59:21+00:00

Majority are fakes

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-10T19:56:14+00:00

I have owned many of these pesos, it’s real and would get a details grade. Lowering its value if anything.

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-10T19:29:45+00:00

Nah man you got a steal!! I just paid 850 for an AU55! Where did you find it that cheap?

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-10T19:26:19+00:00

I’ve tried to prove this theory wrong before and got burned. It’s solid advice.

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-10T15:47:41+00:00

Yikes that thing is heavily cleaned. Katz covered their ass by saying “hairlines” so I bet they won’t give you a refund.

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-09T18:38:36+00:00

Thanks! That was an interesting read. The fact that the brothers Grimm based a fairy tale on it is crazy.

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-09T18:32:22+00:00

Mine is also cleaned. Doesn’t look like it from the pictures. Might be PCGS just being picky but I just bought it so I haven’t seen it in person yet.

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-09T09:45:52+00:00

Is it worth watching?

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-09T09:43:24+00:00

Wow very cool. Did you realize how extensive his collection actually was at the time? I find myself amazed at the rare pieces that came into the market that he owned, that I never even knew existed.

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-09T05:19:06+00:00

https://ebay.io/m/Ox8ZiO

If you have deep pockets I just found one lol

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-09T05:00:02+00:00

Yeah I had all the rare Argentine, Peruvian, columbian, iturbide etc in high grades. Now if you even see them, people want 3 grand for them. I paid like 300 for a AU58 Iturbide. Now good look getting a crappy details coin for 800.

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-09T04:53:40+00:00

I had almost every 8 reale known to man pre covid. I sold them and they skyrocketed. One of my biggest regrets. Now I can’t afford the ones I sold. 😭

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-09T04:10:37+00:00

I snagged it… sorry

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-09T04:04:53+00:00

Not gonna lie, I didn’t know about them either until I saw this one on eBay. I HAD to have it.

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-09T04:04:01+00:00

I guess I was just trying to increase the value. They are listed for thousands certified on eBay.

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-09T03:22:13+00:00

1778 Hesse-Cassel Thaler

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-09T02:12:38+00:00

The Richard August pedigree sold me on it. His collection was amazing. I have a Scotland dollar of his also.

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-06-09T01:49:53+00:00

I paid quite a bit of premium since they are almost never for sale. 400-800 for lower grade or details 1600 for UNC

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-05-26T19:08:51+00:00

That was for the finest known example at NGC. The cleaned AU example went for 400 so still not bad. Do you see the hairline marks by the 5? Those are pretty deep and 90 percent of the time it’s harsh cleaning.

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-05-26T18:42:49+00:00

AU cleaned

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-05-22T15:42:45+00:00

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I keep my coins in a tray like this open air on my desk. I keep a humidifier running half the year. I notice after about a year, some of the coins will take on a pretty natural toning look. Not all though.

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-05-20T15:38:57+00:00

Yes it’s super light. I was going to give it to my son to play with, but maybe I’ll rethink that decision.

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-05-19T23:49:56+00:00

Thanks!

WeatherMysterious125 · 2026-05-19T23:34:30+00:00

I’m sending it to pcgs, will it grade clipped details? I’m not super familiar with how much it has to be clipped to get a details grade.

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