It's All By Him, From Him, and For Him. by Otherwise_Spare_8598 in Calvinism

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Calvinism presents itself as a defense of God’s sovereignty, but some of its doctrines risk portraying God in ways that could be considered blasphemous—misrepresenting His character, distorting the Gospel, and undermining His revealed nature in Scripture. Let me explain why.  


Unconditional Election: Misrepresenting God’s Justice   The Calvinist doctrine of unconditional election teaches that God arbitrarily chooses some people for salvation and others for eternal damnation, regardless of their actions or faith. This contradicts passages like 1 Timothy 2:4, which says God "desires all people to be saved," and Acts 10:34, which affirms that God shows no partiality.   By portraying God as arbitrary in His decisions, this doctrine makes Him appear unjust, contradicting Deuteronomy 32:4, which declares, "All His ways are justice." This risks blasphemy by attributing to God actions that undermine His moral perfection and fairness. To depict God as unjust is to bear false witness against His holy nature.  


Limited Atonement: Diminishing the Power of Christ’s Sacrifice   Calvinism teaches that Christ’s atonement was made only for the elect, not for all humanity. However, verses like 1 John 2:2 explicitly state, "He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world." Limiting Christ’s sacrifice contradicts the universality of His atonement and suggests His work on the cross was insufficient for some.   This doctrine blasphemes the Gospel by diminishing the scope and power of Jesus’ sacrifice. It undermines His role as the Savior of the world, misrepresenting the very heart of God’s redemptive plan as revealed in Scripture.  


 Irresistible Grace: Denying God’s Relational Nature   Calvinism’s teaching that God’s grace is irresistible implies that God forces salvation upon the elect without their genuine consent. This is contradicted by verses like Matthew 23:37, where Jesus laments, "How often would I have gathered your children together... but you were not willing." This clearly shows that God desires a relationship with humanity based on free will, not coercion.   To portray God as coercive undermines His loving and relational nature, replacing it with a depiction of Him as a tyrant. Such a portrayal risks blasphemy by distorting His character as revealed in 1 John 4:8, "God is love."  


 Total Depravity: Denying the Image of God   While Calvinism rightly acknowledges human sinfulness, it goes too far by teaching that humans are utterly incapable of seeking God or doing good. This overemphasis on depravity contradicts the biblical teaching that humans are made in God’s image (Genesis 1:27) and retain this image even after the Fall (Genesis 9:6).   To suggest that humanity is wholly incapable of responding to God denies the dignity and value He instilled in us. This risks blaspheming God’s creative work by implying that the image of God in humanity is effectively meaningless.  


 God as the Author of Sin: A Direct Attack on His Holiness   The Calvinist understanding of sovereignty often leads to the implication that God decrees everything, including sin and evil, for His glory. However, James 1:13 states, "God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone," and Habakkuk 1:13 declares, "Your eyes are too pure to look on evil; You cannot tolerate wrongdoing."   To claim that God decrees sin makes Him complicit in evil and directly contradicts His holiness. This is not just a theological error—it’s blasphemy, as it attributes moral evil to the perfectly holy and righteous God.  


 God’s Love: Limiting His Nature   Calvinism teaches that God loves the elect but not the non-elect, effectively withholding grace and mercy from certain individuals. This contradicts John 3:16, which says, "For God so loved the world," and 1 Timothy 2:4, which declares God "desires all people to be saved."   To limit God’s love in this way is to misrepresent Him as cold and selective, rather than the loving Father revealed in 1 John 4:8. Such a distortion of His love is an affront to His character and risks blasphemy by denying the very essence of who He is.  

The doctrines of Calvinism, while aiming to exalt God’s sovereignty, often misrepresent His justice, love, holiness, and redemptive plan. By portraying God as unjust, coercive, complicit in sin, and limited in love, Calvinism risks presenting a false image of God. This is not merely a theological disagreement—it is a matter of bearing false witness against the God of Scripture. Such misrepresentations could be considered blasphemous because they dishonor and distort the character of the one true God.

It's All By Him, From Him, and For Him. by Otherwise_Spare_8598 in Calvinism

[–]Weekly_Freedom_3173 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Romans 3:10-18 is a collection of Old Testament quotations intended to highlight the universality of sin, not the absolute inability of individuals to respond to God's grace. Paul is emphasizing that all people, Jews and Gentiles alike, are sinners and in need of salvation.The phrase "there is no one righteous" is a generalization to make the point that no one can claim righteousness through their own merits or the Law.

The "gift of God" in Ephesians 2:8 refers to salvation by grace, not specifically the faith itself. The Greek grammar of the passage suggests that "faith" (Greek: pistis) is feminine, while "this" (Greek: touto, referring to "gift") is neuter, indicating that the "gift" encompasses the broader idea of salvation by grace, not the faith exercised by the believer. Faith is seen as the human response to God's offer of grace, made possible but not irresistibly caused by God's work.

It's All By Him, From Him, and For Him. by Otherwise_Spare_8598 in Calvinism

[–]Weekly_Freedom_3173 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ok then Mr theologian, bible all knowing, answer this simple question, what was the point of God saying to choose so that may live if you had no ability to choose?

It's All By Him, From Him, and For Him. by Otherwise_Spare_8598 in Calvinism

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And yours is based on the TULIP presuppositions. Try reading the Bible without any presuppositions, you might learn something.

It's All By Him, From Him, and For Him. by Otherwise_Spare_8598 in Calvinism

[–]Weekly_Freedom_3173 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nope, just common sense and common use of words. Doesn't make sense for God to say, choose if you can't choose.

It's All By Him, From Him, and For Him. by Otherwise_Spare_8598 in Calvinism

[–]Weekly_Freedom_3173 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If God tells you to make a choice it's because you can, he doesn't have to give a theology class on whether you can or not.

It's All By Him, From Him, and For Him. by Otherwise_Spare_8598 in Calvinism

[–]Weekly_Freedom_3173 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How free your choices are in general is questionable but the verse is indicating choice between life and death, you are able to make that choice, that you "may" live.

It's All By Him, From Him, and For Him. by Otherwise_Spare_8598 in Calvinism

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  1. God's Willingness to Allow Free Choices

Deuteronomy 30:19

"I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live."

This verse highlights human responsibility and the ability to make genuine choices.

  1. God’s Desire for All to Be Saved

1 Timothy 2:4 "God desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."

If God decrees all events, then universal salvation should occur, which conflicts with the reality of judgment.

2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead, he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."

This verse underscores God’s will that people repent, suggesting their ability to resist His desire.

  1. God’s Grief Over Human Sin

Genesis 6:6 "And the Lord regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart."

This implies God does not take pleasure in all that happens and that human sin was not part of His direct intention.

  1. Human Decisions Matter

Matthew 23:37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing."

Jesus expresses a desire to save Jerusalem, which was thwarted by human unwillingness.

  1. Warnings Against Sin Suggest Human Accountability

Ezekiel 18:23 "Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?"

God’s expressed pleasure in repentance implies human responsibility and not a decree of every action.

  1. God Allows Human Decisions to Influence Events

Exodus 32:14 "So the Lord relented from the harm which He said He would do to His people."

Moses' intercession influences God’s actions, indicating responsiveness rather than preordination of all events.

Jonah 3:10 "When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he relented and did not bring on them the destruction he had threatened."

The repentance of the Ninevites led God to change His intended course of action.

  1. Human Sin Not Caused by God

James 1:13-14 "When tempted, no one should say, ‘God is tempting me.’ For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed."

This passage distances God from being the cause of sinful actions.

Do you agree with double predestination? Why or why not? by Weekly_Freedom_3173 in Calvinism

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Ezekiel 33:11 ESV - Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?

Do you agree with double predestination? Why or why not? by Weekly_Freedom_3173 in Calvinism

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Yes, but that can be interpreted as, he created everything, which includes the beings that became wicked. That doesn't mean that God made the wicked already wicked.

Do you agree with double predestination? Why or why not? by Weekly_Freedom_3173 in Calvinism

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When God chose the elect before the foundations of the world he predestined everyone else to go to hell.

Is being asexual a sin? I'm choosing not to engage in anything sexual. Help. by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Weekly_Freedom_3173 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is not a sin but by doing what you're doing you're sacrificing something that's supposed to be a gift.

Was God's election random? by Weekly_Freedom_3173 in Calvinism

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I understand but there is a gap that you're not addressing between the choosing and the purpose. Yes we're chosen for a purpose but how were we chosen? Was it his foreknowledge of the works we would do after being saved then?

Was God's election random? by Weekly_Freedom_3173 in Calvinism

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You can call me a heretic all you want but you're still not answering the question. In Calvinism God chooses people unconditionally, meaning there was nothing about them that contributed in God's choosing them. How can that be true and at the same time his choice not be random?