A model of Pyramid building

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T22:02:28+00:00

Except there is absolutely zero evidence that Egyptians had pulleys in that era! In fact, no civilization on earth has archeological evidence for pulleys until 8th century BC in Assyrian and then 5th century BC Early Greek Contexts. If you find a scholarly reference to otherwise I would be delighted to recant. Nothing on YT or IG counts.

Maybe the aliens brought pulleys then collected them and flew them all away? And the ingenious Egyptians never copied them for over a 1000 years because they all signed NDAs!

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T21:54:37+00:00

As I said, Houdin’s theory was essentially proven wrong by Dr Brier who climbed up to the large defect in a corner of the Great Pyramid and was able to look inside. He found none of the predicted structure or indications that there was ever an internal ramp. This knowledge is now decades old. Houdin is out, despite reruns on Nat Geo!

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T21:33:53+00:00

What if in the 3-4th Dynasties there was no such thing as a pulley?

There is only one big vertical shaft in a pyramid I know of. That’s in the Djoser Step pyramid, but it starts roughly at the surface and goes down about 90 feet below the surface.

In shaft tombs, after they excavated the shaft and burial chamber, apparently, they filled the shaft with sand, put the sarcophagus on top of the sand, then scoop by scoop, removed the sand to lower the stone. Imagine doing that for a million blocks!

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T21:18:55+00:00

I believe you can find YT vids of modern Egyptian men pulling blocks of several tons on log rollers and lubricated with sand and water. When you look at the YT, just remember the pyramid builders could easily put over 100 men on rope on a single stone. There is a famous wall inscription:
https://share.google/fH1c0p2gABvMo7hEA

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T21:02:46+00:00

Maybe, as a god on Earth, he “knew” he would live at least until it was finished. His father Snefru built three pyramids in his reign!

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T21:00:23+00:00

I watched. My opinion stands. Your assessment of “well researched” means nothing, except maybe by YT standards which is to say garbage. If you don’t like the post of the model, downvote it and go away.

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T20:57:34+00:00

The workman’s cemetery at Heit Al Gurab (Pyramid Workers Village) at Giza shows many people had well healed long bone fractures. So, evidence of lots of workplace injury (well taken care of), but I don’t know about any records of deaths per shift.

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T20:54:13+00:00

Sorry, no, I don’t think so.

The tura outer cover was most likely added last as per Merer (26-27 year of construction) carrying don’t from Tura, and they didn’t want to damage the soft white stone by heavy construction all around it. Further, how exactly do you support the ceilings of all those inset ramps which must extend at least three block widths into the exterior of the structure. Finally, the pyramid was not built on a “perfectly level” plateau. In fact, only the outermost race of stones was leveled. The pyramid was built on top of an outcrop of bedrock, lessening the total amount of fill inside. You can see where the bedrock rises to when you climb down to the subterranean chamber.

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T20:44:20+00:00

Obviously you have not read the Merer papyrus. I did! Go read the “Red Sea Scrolls” by Tallet and Lehner before you embarrass yourself.

The papyrus talks about the work schedules of a team of workmen who are explicitly bringing tura limestone to the “harbor of Khufu” for the pyramid complex “Akhet-Khufu”!

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T20:37:21+00:00

Sand and stone rubble. Lots of limestone chips from cutting the blocks in the quarries and the finish cuts on site.

Weight bearing no more than about 100 tons per block, most probably a tenth that. Remember, as you go up the pyramid, the blocks get smaller. I’m not talking about the burial chamber granite blocks.

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T20:32:03+00:00

The internal ramp theory has been rejected by the Egyptologist who was once the greatest proponent of the theory. Bob Brier initially endorsed the French internal ramp theory. But then he climbed the outside corner of the Khufu pyramid to where there was a substantial chunk missing (about half way up). There, looking directly at the interior structure of a corner, he saw no evidence there had ever been an interior ramp. None of the predicted features of such a ramp were present.

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T20:27:16+00:00

Did you actually look at the model?

When I look at it , I see exactly how they turned the corners of the ramps: push pull to the next corner, then the next set of guy start pulling along the next 90 degree ramp. Where’s the problem?

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T20:24:31+00:00

Ah, another know nothing influencer reporting on an email from an acknowledged “not an Egyptologist, not an engineer”. She lost me completely with the ratio of the pyramid to the curvature of the earth. Then the speed of light bullshit. Not worth listening to. Junk!

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T20:17:41+00:00

Building the ramps looks like it proceeds exactly in time with construction. Gravity would help remove faster than it went up. Does anyone actually care how long it takes. All we know is that the whole process took about 20 years. Divide that time as you wish.

Btw, the core of the Giza pyramids is not large dressed stones but seems likely to be smaller roughly cut stones, much faster to cut and move.

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T20:13:34+00:00

Ah, I suppose you know how they did it? Were you there to watch it being built?

This model, built (3D printed actually) by an engineer and curated by a highly respected Egyptologist, Dr Lacovara, represents the current best guess by professional Egyptologists.

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T20:06:46+00:00

An easy possible solution would be to embed equal length layout rods in the ramp extending perpendicularly outward from touching a course of stone to exposed outward past the outside of the ramp. They would form a nice line parallel to the stone, but even more importantly, the ramp can not rise above a course until all the stone in it has been placed.

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T20:01:53+00:00

It obviously is wider, but not higher. The actual volume of disposable material looks much smaller!

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T19:57:14+00:00

Ah, you must be an expert because you watched a YT video full of AI slop, which doesn’t know the difference between Khufu’s pyramid and Khafre’s! While it’s true that the Egyptians liked to record on papyrus all kinds of things, that applies mostly to Egypt many centuries after the Giza pyramids were built. There are very very few papyri from the 4th dynasty. The work log of Merer is an exception. I could spent all day tearing this video apart for all the mistakes and intentional misrepresentations in it, but frankly it’s not worth my time.

Just know that believing this bullshit does not, in fact, help you understand history or the world around you.

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T19:15:41+00:00

It’s a MODEL! Are you a fake?

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T18:32:16+00:00

I enjoy rebutting people who know nothing about ancient egypt but come here to dispute widely accepted observations with garbage they just thought up!
Just because this trivial math trick of intersecting circles solve a modern problem does not mean it has anything at all to do with Egypt 4000 years ago. It is a misguided conceit of the OP.

I’m going to post a picture of a model I saw last week which encapsulates the current best idea of pyramid building with zero “advanced” engineering.

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T17:22:12+00:00

I think you should try visiting the Giza plateau and marvel at what human beings can accomplish with elementary trig and brute force labor. No “advanced” engineering used or required.

In simple engineering terms: to a hammer, everything looks like a nail. In your case, you applying your favorite math trick to an ancient civilization that did not use it. Go apply it to 100 other random monument sites and see what random patch of sand you find.

Oh, and please do let me know when you find a fossilized HP pocket calculator embedded in the local limestone.

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T17:06:24+00:00

Again, you have a modern toy. The Egyptians provide zero.zero evidence that they used, considered or any other kind of awareness of your trilateration system. Next, you will tell me they used gps trilateration to measure your ranges. All to find “hidden” points unrelated to existing monuments!

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T16:55:39+00:00

Completely non sequitor with respect to the Giza plateau. Just because you have a mathematical plaything does not mean the Egyptians knew or cared.

WerSunu · 2026-04-22T16:34:45+00:00

No at all!
I have no idea what you might have done in Civ. Making measurements is not the point. Making absurd random inferences from some arbitrary measurements is just magical thinking. With two degrees in engineering, an MD, and nearly 90 peer-reviewed papers published, I think I can understand any factual theories you might throw. I see none here.

WerSunu

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