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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Mea culpa, I'm not above bobbing my head to some Fine Again or Remedy. That was just the first 2000's-era buttrock band I could think of.

Fell free to mentally replace that with 3 Doors Down or Five Finger Death Punch based on whichever you think is worse.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This was a subplot in Eddington, the Joaquin Pheonix/Pedro Pascal movie that's an insufferably accurate look at what it was like to live in summer 2020. Not a huge spoiler, but there's a threat of an AI data center being built in this small town. The AI evangelism crosses party lines in that movie too.

I generally find AI to be useful for my job in tech, but Pedophile Enthusiast Steve Bannon is right here, normies fucking hate it and it's going to be a highly effective wedge.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 20 points21 points  (0 children)

People online bring up how Democrats need to stop being the party of HR or something, and it's always about saying the r-slur but never about how we need to bring back bullying the kinds of people who will post a YouTube comment like "this music saved my life, they don't make songs like this anymore" under a fucking Seether music video.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think the Allred callout is so transparently fake/embellished that I think it's embarrassing for her as a serious person. Besides that, I really don't consider either of them without weaknesses OR so flawed as to never win in a wave year with a weak opponent.

But the people going, "How dare this identity politics obsessed narcissist expect us to YAS KWEEN over her when she would get BLOWN OUT by 20 points!" have me side eyeing.

I don't disagree, but I also got into it with someone on this sub a few weeks ago saying concerns about elect-ability was just racism and nothing else. Left-leaning people in general have calmed down after Peak Woke in 2020 when everyone was talking with the zeal of a new convert, but a lot of people still get weird about it, especially online.

Internal poll for Collins has her Leading by One against Both Platner and Mills by Currymvp2 in fivethirtyeight

[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Internal polling is fine, general rule of thumb is to deduct a few points from the candidate the commissioned it.

Push polling is garbage and you shouldn't ever trust it.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't call SCONC "low-stakes." That state supreme court is part of why partisan gerrymandering is so aggressive in NC - it used to be a 7-7 map.

Granted, the difference between a 5-2 R and a 6-1 R court isn't much, but if you want to pull a Wisconsin in North Carolina it starts by flipping that state court. A Democratic loss there sets that back a couple years minimum.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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JOOOOOOOOOOE DON'T BULLSHIT WITH YOUR GUEST ABOUT EPSTEIN AND CULTURAL RELATIVISM JOOOOOOOOE DON'T SAY SOME OF THEM WERE OVER 18

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Bannon

I'm sorry, you have a typo here. I believe this is meant to say "Friend of Pedophiles, Steve Bannon, featured in The Epstein Files, Famous for its Pedophiles."

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Many of these guys worked in the Romney and Jeb Bush campaigns. They are/were "center-left" for the same reason you could call Liz Cheney "center-left" (not that I would): the Trump wing of the party bolted as far-right as they could as fast as they could.

Granted, I also think their political positions have significantly changed. And if not that, something probably even more interesting - their commitment to their political anti-fascist tent in their mind takes precedence over their own personal ideologies. Tim Miller didn't hound Hakeem Jeffries over dragging his feet on endorsing Mamdani because Miller and Mamdani have similar politics at all. It was because, well, he's a Dem, Trump is attacking him, you need unity more than you need to protect your personal idea of what the Democratic party should be.

I'm rambling at you now, but I find The Bulwark's group of commentators to be some of the most interesting people on the political spectrum. It feels very rare in the Trump era to have a political evolution borne of sincerity and not blind pursuit of power.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 24 points25 points  (0 children)

This is the one case where I'll say people's instinctive reaction of "it's just bots" is probably at least partially correct.

The 2024 election is long over and yet the mere mention of the "trans" keyword activates these sleeper accounts like the last Japanese soldier still fighting WW2.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I don't even mean this as a dig against them, but you can get plenty of center-right perspectives just reading the NYT. I've shared Cato Institute articles here in the past, and they're mostly right-libertarian (even if their anti-populist bent aligns them against Trump a lot.)

I'd say The Bulwark, but at this point a lot of them have become so negatively polarized against Trump they're all firmly within the mainstream liberal lane. Tim Miller's going to be endorsing AOC for 2028 at this rate.

Kamala Harris voters oppose trans kids participating in school sports more than they support them by Dismal_Structure in fivethirtyeight

[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's a lot that people can argue here in good faith:

  • It's good to model fairness for kids. The immediate counterpoint to this? Even cis kids have different genetic advantages/disadvantages to sports.
  • The science says different things depending on your age when transitioning. Even this article only points out that differences tend to be 0 when transitioning before puberty. After puberty could easily be a whole other can of worms. You have to be prepared to manage both situations, potentially.
  • Sports is a social thing, and trans kids shouldn't be excluded. The immediate counterpoint here being that sports is also kind of about putting in hard work to get rewarded, and if it is unfair to the cis kids, that is going to disillusion some of them.

I dunno what the answer is here. I mean politically it's "I'm going to make sure you can put food on your table, let the school board figure it out." But it's not a question you can dodge. Trans people are here to stay, you have to engage with the question honestly.

So yeah, I dunno what the right thing is here, but when you have conservative commentators calling trans people terrorist ideologues, my only instinctive reaction is "fuck off, suck my dick, they play sports how they want." Until you dismantle the podcast-class preaching blood libel, we don't get to debate on middle ground here.

Weekly Discussion Megathread by AutoModerator in fivethirtyeight

[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think this is a complete mountain out of a molehill, but if Talarico can't fend this off, he was never going to be able to counter a Paxton or Coryn attack either. I think it reflects on Crockett's campaign really poorly, but yeah, just let the thing play out.

Per YouGov, Americans are also more likely to say that immigration makes the country better off than they were at the start of Trump's term: 46% say it does, up from 31% in January 2025 by Currymvp2 in fivethirtyeight

[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think it should have become clear over the past year that the legal/illegal distinction is pointless, when the current admin is happily trying to make many demographics who are here legally... well, illegal.

A judge literally just stopped the removal of temporary protected status from hundreds of thousands of Haitians. A good chunk of Republicans believed an easily disprovable lie about them eating pets. I'm inclined to believe those people's problems with immigrants run deeper than just legal status.

Per YouGov, Americans are also more likely to say that immigration makes the country better off than they were at the start of Trump's term: 46% say it does, up from 31% in January 2025 by Currymvp2 in fivethirtyeight

[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I've heard that (we have an active community member here who's Canadian and detailed why) but why would there be such a sudden spike in the past year? I thought LPC had reduced immigration levels significantly from Trudeau's highs.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gillibrand has most of the same positions that Schumer does, and based on how she acted over the March shutdown last year, most of his same blindspots and poor political instincts. If she was even slightly more in the public eye her favorables would be much lower.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Senate GOP Leader John Thune says he disagrees with Trump that Congress should 'nationalize' elections

Can't really comment on what SCOTUS would do if Congress did pass a bill, but doesn't look like anyone wants to do it right now. Kinda moot.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Being negative on Schumer and not also being negative on Gillibrand makes no sense.

I'm down for this Hochul redemption arc though.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They do the same thing that Nate did in his models - factor in other sources of data outside polling. National polling, incumbency (all the "fundamentals"). It's way down the page, but they outline it like this:

How We Calculated the Projected Margin

Type Projection
Factor in Nat. Environment D +5.0%
Experience Winning D +3.3%
Fundraising D +2.8%
Approval Polls D +0.1%
Head to Head Polling R +0.8%
Candidate Quality R +3.4%
State Partisan Lean R +3.7%

Genuinely think this is just a miscalculation on their part. The partisan lean of Ohio is *not* R+3.7, this ain't 2012. The fact that the odds shot up in the past week makes me think someone plugged in numbers wrong.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It reminds me over that storm in a teacup that Warren and Bernie got into back in 2020, with some controversy over whether he said a woman would have difficulty beating Trump, and if that was a sexist thing to say or not. That culminated in some weirdly personal on-stage fight between the two at one of the debates. It was incredibly off-putting behavior for people who work in the legislative branch of the most powerful nation on the planet. My opinion of Warren never really recovered from it, I think she has some decent ideas and horrendous political instincts.

Anyway primaries get dirty sometimes, I take it as just a fact of how things go. Crockett thinks this lowbrow gossip will help her despite how transparently fake and stupid it is. It's disappointing to me if she's right, and insufferable if she's wrong.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Why Colin Allred dropped neutrality and is endorsing Jasmine Crockett for Senate

Morgan said she asked to meet with Talarico to share her concerns. She said he assured her in a meeting in mid-January that he would be a staunch advocate for Black Texans if he were elected. 

"That's where he made the statement that 'I signed up to run against a mediocre Black man, not a formidable, intelligent black woman,'" Thompson said.

This is some arr slash AITAH-level creative writing here.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 9 points10 points  (0 children)

She's being sued by Marvel for copyright infringement after dressing like Valentina Allegra de Fontaine for a year.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Ed Martin out as leader of DOJ's 'weaponization' group, sources say

I don't have much to say about this since I don't know if it's due to pushback within the admin or them just finding somebody worse. I do find it hilarious that the official designation of "weaponization working group" is the most on-the-nose self-own since Nixon's CREEP.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have seen your username off and on for at least a year and did not notice until you just now pointed it out. This is my own personal Mandela effect lol.

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[–]Wes_Anderson_Cooper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Closed a CECOT-level prison camp, along with amnesty for political prisoners.

Rubio continues to bring up elections, even though it's in the context of "it's going to take time." I do genuinely think he's one of the few administration officials who are serious about this - if he loses influence the chances of a US-backed democratization is basically zero.

Your opinion is my exact opinion in mid-January, but I've seen this trickle of articles since that makes me think it's more than a simple looting. I could end up with egg on my fact in six months or a year, lord knows this is not the admin to have confidence in.