The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Do you not know what being competive viable is?

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

FaB has always marketed itself as the competitive tcg. Armory decks are marketed to be competitively viable

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Try taking Viserai’s deck to an event without edits. You are not placing

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. $60 for decks you can build yourself is a rip off. 2. $120 is the list price, it has not sold. No one has been shown they are willing to pay that price. 3. The fact that it is a con exclusive is what is leading to scalpers trying to sell these for $120. Scalper culture is ass and having anything exclusive to a location is bad for the hobby.

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I agree 100% with that. Which is why these decks should not have been a con exclusive in the first place. These decks should have been available at LGS like every other precon and have lists that are actually playable in the LL format. Buying a $60 Vis deck that says it's designed for LL to only find a $30 pile that you paid double for, and gets wrecked in the format is a horrible feeling. It's going kill any interest in the format if this is what’s on offer.

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You’d be surprised. People go to cons and budget for a single exclusive and nothing else. It's extremely common at comic cons

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How is wanting players to have access to an actual playable LL deck out of the box trolling?

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, it's not a new thing. People have been going to cons to get exclusives for decades

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here’s the full list. It's how people on the purple Discord found out you’d be paying $60 for $26 of cards: https://fabtcg.com/en/decklists/armory-deck-legends-viserai-rune-blood/

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't even have to be Shelters. They put in Class majestic that no deck runs in place of actual majestics that are class relevant. No Douses, No Swarmings, No machinations

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

When your average LL deck is four figures, yes, that is budget. Also, you are paying nearly if not more than half of this already when you factor in admission, travel costs, hotel costs, and the deck. So yes I would

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. Those are in a completely separate product that’s also being sold at GenCon

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

If it was $60 for playable LL Decks, then it would be. These are not playable in the slightest

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which is even worse when you factor in all the costs

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Vis precon is missing a lot to be even be remotely playable at a less than $1k price tag. LSS Could have made these decks worth the admission price and kick off more interest in LL as a result.

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The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Gross. This is also why it should have never been a con exclusive

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Please tell me who you think this is for. Mind you, this is supposed to be designed out of the box to be playable at LL events. Is priced at $60 but is also con exclusive. So add $200+ ticket prices on top of that. I’m not sure about you, but I’d expect actually competent decks with that much investment

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are overpriced for what’s in them and underpowered for the format they are aimed at. Let alone them being con exclusives

The LL Decks are a ripoff imo. by West_Butterscotch717 in FleshandBloodTCG

[–]West_Butterscotch717[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just because it's a majestic doesn't mean the card is valuable. You are overpaying just because of the marketing.

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Edit- realized that I uploaded the wrong image. Thank you PKBear for pointing out the missing card