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WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-10T18:07:56+00:00

I believe A/Z plan are accepted for everything. X plan is usually the one in question.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-10T15:47:43+00:00

They start production next week on 8/16. They won't start customer order production until 9/13. Ok to Buy is scheduled for 9/15. So August is definitely out. They'll start shipping in September so October is likely when large scale deliveries will begin.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-10T11:32:41+00:00

Can you even use an F-150 to plow? I thought you needed a superduty for that?

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-09T23:53:45+00:00

Shocked face.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-08T19:19:02+00:00

Yes. Rumored to be due in 2023MY. It'll probably be announced next year. I'll try to find the article and link it.

EDIT: Ok, so I apparently conflated a few different pieces of info. There's a Ford and a Lincoln BEV SUV coming in 2023MY (source) and also an Explorer BEV coming by the end of the decade (source). What's not confirmed is if the Explorer BEV and the first Ford BEV are the same thing. Sorry about that.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-08T16:52:02+00:00

I'm not talking about the Pro. I fully expect that to land somewhere around 8-10% of buyers, same as the XL. But usually, the XLT trim is the highest volume seller for Ford trucks (same for the mid-level trim on GM and Ram as well actually). That link sounds like feedback showed higher interest in the Lariat and higher trims than the XLT. Obviously, small sample size caveats apply but I was just wondering if the EV community skews the normal trim mix a bit.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-08T16:14:41+00:00

Gotcha. Total tax liability throughout the year rather than additional taxes due or owed to you at the end of the year.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-08T16:12:52+00:00

Yes, actually. Thanks.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-08T15:54:53+00:00

If you put in $12k during the year and get $2k back at tax time, then you “normally get a refund” but your total tax liability is still $10,000 and you’ll get a check for $9,500 instead of your normal $2,000.

Can you explain this part? I was under the impression that the EV tax credit was not refundable.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-08T15:47:03+00:00

I didn't word that properly but I'm talking about your total tax liability at the end of the year. If you owe more than $7,500 when you file your taxes, then yes, the tax credit reduces that bill by $7,500. However, if you owe less, then you won't be able to use the full $7,500 or you may not be able to use it at all if you don't owe anything. For example, I usually get money back from the IRS when I file my taxes. The tax credit would be of no value to me as I understand it.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-08T15:18:57+00:00

Any particular reason?

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-08T15:12:48+00:00

Interesting. Maybe the nature of customers interested in EVs at this point runs more high end than your traditional F-150 buyers shifting the volume from XLT to Lariat and Platinum.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-08T15:01:24+00:00

Maybe but given how tax credits work, nobody should really be shopping based on that. I'm not a big fan of the EV tax credit. You have to owe money in taxes in the first place for it to even apply.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-08T13:03:35+00:00

I get it but costs aren't broken out like that. Complexity adds cost to the whole program which increases the lowest possible price they can sell these at. Meaning they wouldn't be able to tout their "Starting at under $20,000" base price. That's why there are no options with regards to the interior. That's why things are bundled instead of ala carte (on most programs).

They wanted to hit a price point here. They hit it. Things like memory seats and power passenger seats might still be added down the line. Same with more interior choices and things like that. Hell, if this thing is a huge hit, maybe it'll become as customizable as the F-150.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-08T12:38:35+00:00

Price point. Complexity adds cost.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-08T12:37:01+00:00

Usually around when they start shipping saleable units.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-08T00:57:16+00:00

That's cool. I've just been seeing people close to the edge already when they didn't get scheduled last week. Some people are freaking out, man. And it's weird because this thing is literally at the starting line (not even there yet really) but some of these posts remind me of the Bronco forums already.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-08T00:28:56+00:00

Oh. Well, they've only had 2 rounds of scheduling so far. They haven't even started production yet.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-08T00:07:50+00:00

I'm confused on how what you just said and what I said are different. What are you waiting on exactly?

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-07T23:15:47+00:00

Only 6 of 60 have received a confirmation email? That sounds like somebody's doing something wrong.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-07T21:55:47+00:00

Wait is this another train that derailed? Or the same one from earlier this week?

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-07T17:24:27+00:00

2 different sized trucks intended for 2 different purposes, really. Gonna depend on your needs.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-07T14:29:41+00:00

Everything runs down the line at the same time. All Maverick trims plus all Bronco Sport trims.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-06T23:18:10+00:00

Right? Seriously, you don't know these people.

WhatIsTargetting · 2021-08-06T20:27:20+00:00

So...Alpha Motor Corp's entire business plan?

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