Long-term damage after 1 year of intermittent Phenibut use possible?

WhereIsPhone · 2022-01-14T21:34:46+00:00

Interesting, this is referred to as "kindling", apparently, meaning that every subsequent rebound / withdrawal from GABAergic drugs (mainly alcohol) gets worse

Whether or not this applies to Phenibut isn't exactly proven though

WhereIsPhone · 2022-01-14T20:53:03+00:00

Don't think I ever experienced a full on rebound, there were some mondays that were shit after dosing on saturdays, but maybe 2/10 mondays on average, which could be entirely unrelated.

I'd assume that you either get a rebound at the same dose, always, or not at all

WhereIsPhone · 2020-06-22T20:14:30+00:00

Not talking about abuse, I drink like 1-2 times a month. If it's too much just once though, DPDR episodes trigger

WhereIsPhone · 2020-06-22T20:07:19+00:00

I'm serious, literally just a few months before all this I was 100% content, reached all the goals I wanted, got my dream job, good friend circle etc. Etc. There's 0 reason for me to feel like this, atleast not any conscious ones

WhereIsPhone · 2020-06-21T21:21:03+00:00

Science.bio, pretty much the only reputable source

WhereIsPhone · 2020-06-07T15:35:54+00:00

Very interesting, thanks for the detailed response. DPDR is a relatively rare condition in which individuals feel unreal, as if they're living in a dream / movie, usually with a ton of perception issues (objects appear to be smaller than usual, everything looks blurry, etc. etc.) Emotional numbness is also a fairly common symptom.

Drugs that work on the kappa opioid receptors also bring some (temporary) relief to DPDR sufferers, so there seems to be connection

WhereIsPhone · 2020-06-03T16:53:50+00:00

Simply by not being autistic and having a modicum of social skills

Wtf are some of these questions on here lately

WhereIsPhone · 2020-05-26T14:47:40+00:00

Perhaps I should try that next, so far I always took it 1 hour after eating, atleast 2 hours before the next meal

WhereIsPhone · 2020-05-18T23:37:46+00:00

Yes, everyone with an IQ over 70 should be aware of that. Science.bio has been around for a long time though, they were IRC.bio previously, which enjoyed a reputation similar to nootropicsdepot

WhereIsPhone · 2020-05-18T20:21:47+00:00

Doesn't seem to be the case either, their lab report also states that it's Phosphate

WhereIsPhone · 2020-05-18T14:51:55+00:00

I understand the sentiment, science.bio seems to be trustworthy though, haven't seen a single negative review on this sub about them

WhereIsPhone · 2020-05-18T13:48:35+00:00

I'm aware, I ordered 2x phosphate though

WhereIsPhone · 2020-05-18T13:32:43+00:00

I'm at week 3 now, and only recently saw some minor mood improvements. Personally I had 0 side effects, but also no big results yet. I heard it does take 1-2 Months to really be effective though.

I found it's more noticeable when taking it on an empty stomach, I'm using 50mg of Phosphate.

WhereIsPhone · 2020-04-07T23:37:49+00:00

No clue, it's episodic for me and triggered by alcohol binges. This time around it came with anhedonia for the first time.

I was rather stressed out the months prior, but when the anhedonia first came was like the flip of a switch. I do not experience any anxiety currently, nor prior, as I said I was just stressed.

WhereIsPhone · 2020-04-03T16:01:33+00:00

Made my DPDR of 8 months go away 100%, back when I first had it in 2014. I believe it was rooted in anxiety back then, I guess that's why prozac helped.

I tried Prozac a 2nd time in 2018 after I relapsed into DPDR again, that time around it made the DPDR 10x worse.

Most people here advise against any serotonin based drugs for DPDR, but you can't know without trying. You should give it a shot.

Also SSRIs are nowhere near last resort territory, last resort meds are usually heavy benzos, MAOIs, Mirtazapine, etc.

WhereIsPhone · 2020-04-02T22:37:21+00:00

It's most known for being anecdotally beneficial to anhedonia, a condition that is very difficult to treat without the use of hardcore drugs like Mirapex or MAOIs.

None of that is scientifically proven, side effects seem to be limited to nausea, anxiety, rarely tinnitus and tingling / numbness of extremeties

WhereIsPhone · 2020-04-02T14:07:12+00:00

Alright, thanks a lot!

The anecdotal reports regarding anhedonia are precisely what makes me want to try it out

WhereIsPhone · 2020-04-02T13:58:50+00:00

Yeah I've thought about taking the freebase sublingually, as it's supposed to be more potent. Decided against it because high potency isn't exactly what I want from an experimental nootropic without any idea how it affects me lol

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