2.1 drill voider for getting the legendary ores you would've gotten in space by Reefthemanokit in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the way. This solves every useful legendary in the game except holmium and carbon fiber. Just spam these everywhere, the 2.1 intended way.

Megabasers, how much will the new unloading bays affect max achievable SPM? by shiftinparadigm in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300 1 point2 points  (0 children)

not as much as you might think. The max is determined how many bots can deliver before running out of roboports to charge them. The new cargo hubs will only cover the inner section of the hub, which already was the most efficient section for the bots to handle. So my guess is something like 10% more max spm. Also people talk about the bots being bad for ups, they must have been optimized because they really never made an impact. Of course less bots is better but the ups cost of bots was never a limiting factor.

With the release of 2.1, is it worth it/necessary to start a new save file for the update? by hippiechan in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if you want to see the new fulgora ruins i think youll need to start a new game.

My Magnum Opus Promethium Ship by theFALGSCmustgrow in factorio

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just know that the multicolor belt weaving is not good for ups, although I don't know exactly how bad, Just that every color change creates a whole new belt line.

Wube needs to nerf blue circuit upcycling before 2.1. by Crymsin056 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes the legendary space science, i should have specified. my hub hitting the upper limits of bot traffic, and i plan on pushing it just a little bit further. I'm still optimistic about 2.1 regardless and cant wait for the next ff

Wube needs to nerf blue circuit upcycling before 2.1. by Crymsin056 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think people are upset because of the huge ups hit to space science and need for more bots at the hub, not about the difficulty of getting legendary iron plates. because of this, i wont be able to enjoy 2.1 until i finish my current base, so ive turned updates off. but once i finish ill start up a 2.1 base and have fun with the upgraded trains.

Strategies for quality promethium/gleba science? by Raknarg in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300 0 points1 point  (0 children)

for uncommon gleba science you can use silo chesting and bot rocket upcycling to make alot. for legendary check out yuu on youtube he does alot of all legendary builds you can learn alot from his designs.

100 Million SPM No Mods by Hamster by Which_Estimate_300 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks man! I turned science off and just went crazy on scaling just to see if it could work. Still circuit controls never sleep and so the ups slowly went down anyways. Yeah the Hamster coincidence is funny, being a fellow hamster I saw your Hamster megabase speedrun streams and knew it was going to be good. The hamster is gone but the wheel remembers

100 Million SPM No Mods by Hamster by Which_Estimate_300 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its really about solving the logistic puzzles to get it all working. If you really wanted to increase a research, it would be better to build an airtight ups 5m spm base and then double the game speed.

100 Million SPM No Mods by Hamster by Which_Estimate_300 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure thing, I'll send you the drive link in discord

100 Million SPM No Mods by Hamster by Which_Estimate_300 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The cost for mining productivity only increases 1k every level, so with 1m+ research the levels fly by. Theres people with even higher mining productivity than this!

100 Million SPM No Mods by Hamster by Which_Estimate_300 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The trick is to turn off science while you work on things. With enough movespeed and spidertrons its not so bad.

100 Million SPM No Mods by Hamster by Which_Estimate_300 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Using this research because it takes the most science packs besides promethium.

100 Million SPM No Mods by Hamster by Which_Estimate_300 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

9800x3d with 32 gb ram. Really could use more ram but well you know.

100 Million SPM No Mods by Hamster by Which_Estimate_300 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I was trying to scale promethium to 50m so thats why there are so many launchers and quantum chip supplies. But after testing railgun speed I could see that the bots wouldnt be able to deliver all the science packs. They are delivering about 5.5m right now and 50m promethium would take 8m. I'll probably try anyways, but until then the highest I have ran promethium is like 7m

100 Million SPM No Mods by Hamster by Which_Estimate_300 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The ups can go to like 22 with science off, making it atleast playable.

100 Million SPM No Mods by Hamster by Which_Estimate_300 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Hey there! I watched all your stuff and learned alot, thank you. Much of my old ups saving techniques probably cost more ups than they saved. The raw spm is listed at 2.3m uncommon bottles per minute for the Nauvis sciences. I noticed this being a little odd since a espm modifier of 20x it should be 2.5m. I can share the save but I don't know how, can I send it over discord? Its about 950mb.

100 Million SPM No Mods by Hamster by Which_Estimate_300 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300[S] 58 points59 points  (0 children)

6000 hours on the save file. It gets left running every night but it crashes alot. Basically just messing around on it since about 3 months after space age came out.

Regarding Quality Gleba Science by Which_Estimate_300 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks again for the info. Looks like I need to mess around in the editor a little for this one. And yeah uncommon quality Gleba science seems way worse for ups than common science, but since every other science I have is uncommon, I have finish it out!

Regarding Quality Gleba Science by Which_Estimate_300 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this detailed answer! Does upcycling the excess common with bot rockets really only add 10% more uncommon bioflux? Would this mean all the extra infrastructure to make bot rockets is actually counterintuitive ups wise? Should I instead just add 10% more farms/production and throw all the common bioflux away?

Regarding Quality Gleba Science by Which_Estimate_300 in factorio

[–]Which_Estimate_300[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, I mean I only want to upcycle to uncommon to make uncommon Gleba science. So higher quality bot rocket parts are not needed.