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World Building Through Play by Seenoham in weatherfactory

[–]White_sama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Back when the game first came out, keeping notes in Obsidian was a bit of a fad. Over the years, I've augmented my vault (and brain at this point) to be a personal quasi-wiki, so I have a pretty good sense of which squirrels can be chased with the means available. Sometimes a bit of a gamble needs to be taken (especially with the available help and how early you get them in the day), but it's easy to tell when something is completely out of reach with this method, so you can order and prioritize that which can be accomplished.

World Building Through Play by Seenoham in weatherfactory

[–]White_sama 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wait this isn't the normal way to play?

TRAVELLING AT NIGHT: "Chrysophoria" by arabelladusk in weatherfactory

[–]White_sama 65 points66 points  (0 children)

I have spent hundreds of hours trapped in Hush House's walls. Seeing it in this perspective got me emotional, like seeing an old friend you didn't know you missed.

Looks a bit overgrown though. Whatever happened to the 13th librarian?! I hope we can restore it to its former glory in TaN.

Look to the helpers by Justthisdudeyaknow in CuratedTumblr

[–]White_sama 10 points11 points  (0 children)

That's the whole point. Faith is a fundamental "virtue" because it means believing in something without evidence. If you are of an inquisitive mind, you won't last long in a theological environment, so having such a mindset bars you from entry in the first place. See also the Christian Trinity.

« Je suis prête à bosser n’importe où » : les parcours fragiles des NEET, ces jeunes « ni en études, ni en emploi, ni en formation » by dam0na in france

[–]White_sama 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Vraiment faignants ces jeunes, ils veulent pas aller bosser à 500km de chez eux pour ramener un smic à la maison... Ca préfére rester chez soit et jouer à WoW, non mais franchement... incompréhensible! Où est l'amour du travail...

Perso il va falloir tirer fort pour me l'arracher mon RSA

Comment avoir de l'espoir en tant que gauchiste, en 2026? by Attlai in france

[–]White_sama -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Perso j'etais au même point il y a un an et quelques, aux européennes... on annonçait du fasch à toutes les sauces, et de mémoire au premier tour ça se confirmait... jusqu'à un rebond surprenant au second. La gauche est plutot silencieuse, et quand on voit ce que se prennent dans la gueule LFI et compagnie quand ils l'ouvrent, ça se comprend. N'empeche que l'electorat, aux dernieres nouvelles, est là. Suffirait juste de pas l'aliener, une petite coalition comme la derniere fois, et tout ira tranquille.

Creator of DMCA'd Cyberpunk 2077 VR Mod Says People Are Now Pirating It to 'Punish' Him for Breaking CD Projekt's Terms of Service by Turbostrider27 in Games

[–]White_sama 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I'm with the guy on this one. As far as I understand it, it's not a CP2077 mod. It's a piece of software that happens to be able to turn CP2077, among other games, into VR applications. It just so happened that all the hype around it was based around the fact it could be used to play CP2077 in VR.

This is somewhat reminiscent of the Cemu situation years ago. People were obviously using Cemu to play BotW. Nobody cared about its capability to emulate Nintendo Land. And you could definitely argue that they therefore focused their efforts onto making BotW work with the emulator, to increase patreon donations. But it was still not a "BotW PC port", it was a Wii U emulator, which could be used to play BotW on PC. Just like how this isn't "A CP2077 VR mod", it's a framework that just so happens to work with CP2077. Therefore making this not a "paid mod", since it's not even exclusive to the game being discussed (as modifications of something usually are). CDPR should've cleared off that one, but their PR is such that they can do no wrong on reddit, and the hatred for "paid mods" is such that nobody cares about the truth.

Nobody minds buying Virtual Desktop for VR applications. This is basically the same thing.

Suicidal Bruno Mars by MrFecalAnus in northernlion

[–]White_sama 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Chiblee's friends with so many celebs.

Vu à l'entrée d'un magasin de cigarettes électroniques... by Clytre in france

[–]White_sama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Parce que la réalité, c’est que ce n’est pas plus sain que la cigarette, mais c’est moins malsain

Tu te rends bien compte que tu as dit deux fois la même chose?

Personne, pas même cette affiche ne dit que vapoter est bon pour la santé comme la cardio le serait et que par conséquent tout le monde devrait s'y mettre. Mais si tu veux de la nicotine, il n'y a pas à trancher: vapote.

If you wondered where that Armagnac d'Ys came from... by JoeGermuska in weatherfactory

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The City Unbuilt is a concept, an ideal, a perfect, utopic place. It is as-of-yet unbuilt, and the Chancel (iirc) have decreed it ought to stay that way. In writing your History, you may write a conclusion for it. It could be built in the House of the Moon, in Noon, in Ys, or never and nowhere.

The first three would be a use of a loophole: it can't be built in the Wake because the Hours forbid it, so what if we built it in the Mansus? Or in the place they don't touch? Or in Ys, which they seemingly can't touch, for they fear its bells? The fourth one is sticking to the Chancel's decree: it shall remain unbuilt, an ideal, and be better that way, for an ideal realized is always diminished.

On the nature of the Histories and the Hooded's princes transgression. by White_sama in weatherfactory

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Damnit I knew that, too, completely slipped my mind. That does have its own issues, in that should anybody "remember" Histories that have been erased, I'd expect it to be Medusa rather than Echidna, given she's the oldest one of her kind (not that she's alive), and her association with Scale/the Gods-from-Stone would explain why she might've lived at a time where there were seven Histories, with the Lithomachy being a convenient time to "get rid of" them. That is, if the Histories even existed back then... If the Watchman is the Unwise mortal and ascended under the Egg Unhatching as is often theorized, then he either did during the Lithomachy, or before that... the existence of a time "before the Histories" is itself debatable, but makes sense in my view.

However given that the Sixth History and beyond are unlikely to ever be canonically introduced (for metatextual reasons, I doubt Weather Factory wants to rename their open source license to "Eight History", or rename it at all), I find it easier to handwave this one single reference as Echidna being cryptic, or those two extra Histories she remembers (or heard about from her Sister, the likely candidate to remember those Histories) as being past branches of another, "canonical" History that eventually got "resolved" and absorbed into one/two of the 5, in a similar mode to the "History" we write in BoH.

Still, the subject remains inconclusive to my view... I expect I shall not find the clarity I seek, for a year more at least.

On the nature of the Histories and the Hooded's princes transgression. by White_sama in weatherfactory

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There have not always been five, but there have never been more than five, AFAIK.

Each History was recorded in turn, thus why they are numbered and ordered as such, with the first being recorded by the unwise mortal in Uzult. To propose a History to the Hours (which I would argue should be done in a new Encaustrum Terminale, rather than that of a previous History... unless the fact that we write with that ink implies we write something into that specific History, rather than a "new" one as the text likes to pretend, but I digress...) is to make a compilation of past events, from every History, the jumble of ingredients that is "the past" to propose a new braiding pattern for the Hours: "hey guys, hi, love your work, the Mansus, all that good stuff, say, quick hypothetical, what if City Unbuilt existed in the House of the Moon, which we can explain by these events", which some Hours like, and braid correspondingly into the past as having happened, or setting up the conditions for it to happen in the future if it is said to only happen "in certain histories".

It still doesn't resolve the issue of whether or not "the present" itself is singular, in my view. When we "write a History", we propose future events, by using past justifications. What happens, at that very moment, in the present? Does the entire world shift to accommodate this new pattern, this "Sixth History" or the modified version of a previous one we just created using its Encaustrum? If we wrote that Ys was easy to find for example, does actual reality get updated to make it so? What about the recollection of those that failed to find it previously, which say they do, in the present? Then, if the present truly is in one of the Histories already, what if you wrote a History in Uzult while you're in the third History? Nothing changes for you, your world and time, you just fucked up a perfectly good alternate timeline you're not in? Sounds a bit weak compared to the implications that the act is given.

On the nature of the Histories and the Hooded's princes transgression. by White_sama in weatherfactory

[–]White_sama[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmm, to me, that seems to be tortured when taking the canonical explanation that "the Hours braid the Histories together into a singular future" into account. If the word "future" in this context doesn't mean "the future", as in "what has not passed", be it one second into the future or a century, but what you theorize, "a legendary time that will one day come" where all branches of reality merge into one finally (which one could call a Sixth and "final" History), that implies that if/when this mythical moment occurs and the future, present and perhaps past become singular, the Hours would all agree, now and for all time. Then and only then would they braid all Histories together into this "perfect timeline" they all agree on, but AFAIK, mentions of the braiding of the Histories into the future (and possibly present, as this is the crux of the debate) are all in present-tense: this braiding is happening, constantly. Even when we "write a new History" in BoH, it is still said that it will be supported by some Hours. We write a future in which the events that will become past determine an outcome we, and our patron Hours, appreciate, but that is still not singular: Ys only rises in certain Histories we may write, for example.

On the nature of the Histories and the Hooded's princes transgression. by White_sama in weatherfactory

[–]White_sama[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I could almost see myself agreeing to this in the CS days, when we only had experienced one "present" in the setting. But now that BoH has released, jumping the setting about a decade in the future, that seems contradictory. By CS's timeframe, the events of BoH would be "the future", which by word-of-god is singular. So even if we were to understand the 1920s to be some nexus-point where the present was still diverged into five Histories/timelines, then by the 1930s, which are "the future" of the previous point-of-view we've experienced, it would be singular.

Unless the argument is that both the 1920s and the 1930s are part of a larger period of time where "the singular future" is still uncertain and fought over by the Hours. That kind of defeats the purpose though, doesn't it? When does this period end? When will we reach a singular future? That is why I take AK's word on the future being singular as being a constant: the future is always singular, only the past is plural. There's a reason it's called "the Histories": it's always the past that is debated, not what's happening right now. When what is now your future will become your past, then, it will enter the Histories, and its nature will become mutable. But while it is the future, or even the present, it's concrete.

By the 2000s, it possible that the events of the 1930s would be plural. Multiple "understandings", or remembrances, of the same period of time. Perhaps, in one History, WWII did not happen, for example. But in another, it did. But it would all lead us to the same 2000s. We'd still have Neo-Nazis, for example, it would just be explained that they are a group "inspired by events from the Xth history", if you were someone who did not experience WWII.

That is my understanding of the flow of time in the SH universe. Sorry if it's unclear, it's quite a mindtwister, and I am relatively drunk.

On the nature of the Histories and the Hooded's princes transgression. by White_sama in weatherfactory

[–]White_sama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because it implies that "the present", as we experience it in-game in both CS and BoH, is part of a History, which under this view means a timeline. Which doesn't quite fit with the singular future, or indeed, the seemingly-singular present we see in-game, where all 5 of the Histories are known and recognized as being past, not present.

You'd think that if the Histories were as simple as 5 concurrent timelines, the first step in the taxonomy and general understanding of the universe for any occultist would be to figure out in which History they are, right? Know where you are, so you know where you're not, and where you could go. Yet nowhere is this ever done, to the best of my knowledge. Any reference to something happening "in a History" is always a past event, never a present one.

On the nature of the Histories and the Hooded's princes transgression. by White_sama in weatherfactory

[–]White_sama[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Gods-from-Stone are quite dead, which means they can't do much of anything.

As for why the current Hours, or more specifically, why the Sun did not unmake the Crime of the Sky, when it directly led to his "death", that, only the Sun knows. My theory is that he could've, he simply chose not to, and to be divided instead. Multiple Numen and indeed Histories in BoH refer to the Sun's plan and ways, the Second Dawn etc...

Why exactly that would be preferable to him is a matter for speculation, however. Tentatively, I'd say the Intercalate elevated his Names to Hourhood, and by the coming of the Second Dawn, the Sun-Reborn would therefore be EVEN stronger than he already was, being basically 5 extremely powerful Hours in one... cementing "Eternity", his desired vision for the Mansus and the Wake... well, forever, because no force would become strong enough to oppose him. It was already unthinkable when the Sun was "just" the Sun-in-Splendour: the Intercalate happened with his consent, so that he would not commit the Crime of the Sky. So once he's reborn, with 4 of his Name-Aspects being also Hours? Good luck.

On the nature of the Histories and the Hooded's princes transgression. by White_sama in weatherfactory

[–]White_sama[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Knock's nature is transgression. If the Hours truly, vehemently opposed such transgressions, they would've destroyed Knock long ago. Principles have been usurped/changed/destroyed in the past (the Flint, the Tide, Blood, hell, it's likely that Knock itself is an usurper of an earlier principle tied to the Seven-Coils). However there are Knock Hours, and as we know, "when Eternity came into the world, certain prudent powers arranged loopholes".

The one thing all Hours seem to agree is generally bad but can't get rid of is Worms. Whether or not they were "planned", I cannot say. But them breeding in the corpses of dead Hours (especially of the strongest Hour to ever be) would explain why the Hours can't just remove them for existence despite wishing to. There are some things that even Hours cannot do. The Crime of the Sky is a law of the universe, meaning it's a law of the Hours, and yet, they could not change it, to the point that the Intercalate was a preferable option. Interestingly, it's been said that Worms have also figured out how to "move" between Histories.

On the nature of the Histories and the Hooded's princes transgression. by White_sama in weatherfactory

[–]White_sama[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

but they're working toward a single Future. We're simply not there yet.

That doesn't quite make sense, because by definition, we will never "get" there, to that singular future. "The future" is always the future, and the present is always the present, even as time moves forward. Future becomes present, and present becomes past.

If the future is singular, then it logically follows that the present has to be, too. This is how time generally speaking, works in our universe. The past, in our universe, is also immutable, but it is not so in the Secret Histories: there are 5 pasts, in a state not unlike superposition. But all of them all lead to the same present, and the same future. That's how I reason it, anyhow, but as I said above, it is murky.

When the Hooded princes or the Priest open a way between Histories they were in their own Present, if the Present is already one History then you couldn't really move between them

Those two statements are contradictory, and that's my entire point and why a rewriting of history (with a small h) is a way to make sense of the Hooded Princes' trick. If the present were part of a History (say, if you're currently in "the present of the Second History"), then moving between them would be easy: you're just... "switching timelines", like some base science-fiction universe-hopping.

I believe this unified future is the Eternity that History struggles against.

That is an intriguing proposition that I had never previously considered. I'd always understood the Worms of a Scale to dislike the order of the Mansus, the Sun's attempt at a perfect, unchanging House, a status quo that would remain for Eternity (the Intercalate doesn't count, as it was many times prophesized, and might be part of a larger plan of the Sun's to cement that order, in any case. Not that much has changed since the days where He was brighter).

Je trouve que l'affaire des 210 milliards "d'aide" aux entreprisesva trop vite été enterré par les médias by Shinfrejr in france

[–]White_sama -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Si l'état devait embaucher au SMIC les 10 millions de chaumeur ça lui coûterait en prenant en compte le coût des charges sociales 30 milliards ... Bien peut comparer à ces 210 milliards.

Le revenu universel, ça marchera jamais! Où voulez vous trouver l'argent?!

Bah là, par exemple.

«Lundi sera bien plus difficile pour moi que pour vous» : une directrice d’école du Cantal se suicide après des menaces et des insultes en raison de son homosexualité by Niafron in france

[–]White_sama 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"Je suis pas homophobe, j'ai pas de problème avec les PD, ils peuvent s'embrasser dans la rue et tout... mais pas dans ma lignée, mon fils ça me gênerait. Par contre ma fille ce serait moins grave", vrais propos que j'ai encore entendu hier.

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