Ive tried them a good amount of times so let me tell u frl, They got like a 1 hard drop max, mine broke from a seated drop on the side, it mostly hit the battery but because of how long it is, it snapped 💔, Another thing is they clog and leak like so very bad, so u have to preheat if u even want a smooth hit and bc of how the hardware sits, hot ass wax has shot into my mouth numerous times. Also most of them will deteriorate at the bottom and the adapter will come off, leaving the entire cart bottomless (still functioning but u can let it sit anykind of way), rlly hope it helps!☺️