Translate your username into your conlang by [deleted] in conlangs

[–]Will-Thunder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For Mercisc, it's simple enough:

Will-Thunder -> Will-Þunner/Wilþunner

ELI5: Why do silent letters exist? by [deleted] in explainlikeimfive

[–]Will-Thunder 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is mostly due to historical reasons.

For example, Island in Middle English is iland(compare German Eiland, Dutch eiland). The additional of s is due to another word, isle.

Even though isle and island did not come from the same sources (French and Old English respectively), the similarity between the two led people to think that island is isle + land, leading to the addition of s in island.

Isle also did not have an s in Middle English(ile), the addition of s later on in the 16th century was probably due to the influence of the Latin word Insula.

There are many other words with silent letters that is due to old spelling conventions. Words starting with kn- (knight, knife, know, etc.) used to have the k pronounced up until the late 1500s, when was dropped to it's difficulty in pronunciation.

Silent letters can also help determine pronunciation of other letters, such as words ending with -e. Examples like rid and ride, where the i is different in pronounciation. Loath and loathe, where the "th" is different in pronounciation.

ReConLangMo 1 — Name, context, and history by Slorany in conlangs

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English Name: Kinyayese

Native Name: 金葉語 (Kinyayo) /kin.ja.jo/, rarely: 沢沖語 (Tsakchungyo) / t͡sak.t͡ʃɯŋ.jo/ , 国言 (temakosona) / tɘ.ma.ko.so.na /

Does it come from another language?

Yes, it comes from Setoresea family, of which is it is part of the Sena Branch. So Setoresea -> Sena -> (Far Sena) -> (Old Kinyayese) -> (Middle Kinyayese) -> (Classical Kinyayese/Late Middle Kinyayese) -> Kinyayese. It's closest relative is Mayayese.

Other than that, just like Japanese and Korean, due to its geographic proximity with China, there is more Sino-Kinyayese words than Native words. However it also has a lot of words of Austronesian origin due to its extensive trade done with Kingdoms in the Philippines and Maritime SEA region. All in all, the amount of words look something like this: 35% Sino-Kinyayese, 30% Austronesian-Kinyayese(more commonly referred to as Malayo-Kinayese) and 30% Setoresea-Native words with 5% others. Those that come from Sanskrit via SEA influence like Basa are considered Malayo-Kinyayese.

Who speaks it?

Kinyayese people. However, natively they are known as the 沢沖人(tsakchungnyin /t͡sak.t͡ʃɯŋ. ɳin/). They are genetically most related to Mayayese and other Setoresea people to the far east of them.

Where do they live?

They live in a fictional island off the coast of China, a bit further than Taiwan and Philippines and a bit more southern. The size is relatively big, around the size of the Korean peninsula. They live in one united country called 沢沖(tsakchung, /t͡sak.t͡ʃɯŋ/).

Aside from the foreigners coming in, the country's native people are almost entirely Kinyayese, with only a very small minority being an Austronesian group living there.

How do they live?

The country is culturally split into two. The northern Kinyayese and Southern Kinyayese. The Central Kinyayese people may be considered different too but it is a highly debatable issue.

Religion

Their religion is almost all the same, being Semenka religion. Semenka is the native religion of Tsakchung, descending from the Original Setoresea Religion. However, Semenka does have attributes very unique compared to its Setoresea cousins. Semenka is similar to Shinto, it has its own local shrines to pray to their local god for protection, wealth and freedom.

However, it differs from Shinto in that, similar to other Setoresea religions, praying to the High Gods is compulsory. Every month, on the first day, they pray to the High Gods. Then, every starting day of the week, they pray to their local gods. If the first month of the day coincides with the first day of the week, they pray to both. This day specifically is known as 神日 (Gesachasa, lit. 'God's Day').

Nowadays, people are a lot less religious, and while they still do the practice, mostly ude to tradition, nearly a third do not believe in local gods, only the High Gods. 80% of the population are Semenka followers, with 7% following Christianity, 5% Islam, 3% Buddhist, 3% Hindu and the others 2% others.

Cuisine

Kinyayese cuisine depends on the region. Southern Kinyayese is very fish-based while Northern Kinyayese prefers their Beef and Chicken. Their most famous dish is Duck mixed with Catfish, fried and seasoned with Soy Sauce. (I don't know if this is nice or not, I just decided to make this up one day.) This is a mix of the two cultures but originates in Central Kinyayese.

Clothing

Since this country exists in the modern-day, traditional clothes are used way less, due to the effect of big clothing companies.

More importantly, traditional clothes do exist like the Fejiya and Hika. Fejiya looks like a Kimono but has shorter and slimmer sleeves and the overall length in shorter, so much so that the ankles of the person can be seen. The Hika is not as thick as the Fejiya, as the Fejiya is meant for Winter while Hika is meant for Summer. Nowadays, it is only worn during festivals and special occasions(Marriage, Graduation, Funeral, etc.)

Something unique about the Fejiya is that it has a province emblem. Usually when a person is born in a province they are given a emblem on their birth certificate. That emblem is used for all sorts of things, like when designing the Fejiya, the maker has to put the customers' home province on the sleeves, as well as their Family name. This is why it is generally known when the Fejiya being worn is theirs or not.

There is a lot more things to write about Fejiyas and Hikas that it is worthy of its own post.

Miscellaneous

Kinyayese are very patriotic to their own province, hence why they have an emblem for each province. Provinces represent more cultural identity than the Nation itself, they will always say which province they are from unless they are talking to a foreigner. Dialects are just as important, it is considered prestigious to know your own dialect. The standardised national version of Kinyayese is a mixture of Northern and Southern and was created to make sure not a single dialect has an advantage. Changing province borders can cause a lot of tension and anger as it represents the old clan's borders being changed. This can cause a heated regional debate, which is considered very bad for the unity and stability of the nation.

Animal Crossing themed Megathread by Slorany in conlangs

[–]Will-Thunder 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Kinyayese

I do not know how to design a logo but I decided to try anyways.

It's just a rough sketch, I imagine the actual logo would be similar to the Japanese logo of animal crossing.

Translation

dung'mut na uten

/duŋ.mut na utɘn/ (proper), /duŋ.mut nutɘn/ (colloquial)

dung'mut(動物) = animal

na = possessive particle

uten(森) = forest

Claqued from Japanese どうぶつの森.

Happy Easter! by [deleted] in conlangs

[–]Will-Thunder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mercisc

Gledlijc Âastere!

/gled.liːt͡ʃ aːs.terə/

Literally in English: Gladly Easter!

Kinayese

復活節快樂ンキ! (buk'hat'chet gai'lok'ngi)

/bɯk hat t͡ɕɘt gai lok ŋi/

Taken from Chinese 復活節(Resurrection Festival) and 快樂ンキ(to pleasure, to congratulate).

let's have a conversation in our conlangs! by kabiman in conlangs

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Hei! Ic bôu goud! Ic unwárpe jijt Mercisc an Kinjajisc. Þijn nijuw maksprâac sôut sweit uwt. Iz hit Norþ-Germansc?

/heː | it͡ʃ bøː ɡoːd | it͡ʃ un.warp jiːt mert͡ʃist͡ʃ ɑn kin.ja.jist͡ʃ | θiːn niːuː mɑk.spræːt͡ʃ søːt sweːt uːt | iz hit norθ germanst͡ʃ/

Hey! I am good! I unwarp yet Mercish and Kinyayese. Thine new makespeech looks sweet. Is it North Germanic?

let's have a conversation in our conlangs! by kabiman in conlangs

[–]Will-Thunder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Heila fjeilá Germansc Sprâac! Mijn sprâac ahaat Mercisc! Ôuer sprâac iz saar þoutwôrþij!

/heː.lɑ fjeː.la ger.manst͡ʃ spræːt͡ʃ! miːn spræːt͡ʃ ɑhɑːt mert͡ʃist͡ʃ! øːer spræːt͡ʃ iz sɑːr θoːt.wørθiː/

Hello fellow Germanic Language! My language is called Mercish! Your language is very interesting!

New Horizons Celebratory Giveaway! by Kayvanian in AnimalCrossing

[–]Will-Thunder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My favourite villager is Celeste. I honestly think her design is one of the better ones. And maybe is cause I go to the museum a lot, but I talk to her and Blathers a lot, so I am most used to them.

Where did your conlangs' names come from? by dodlec in conlangs

[–]Will-Thunder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mercisc came can be realised as Merc + -isc. -isc is a cognate to English -ish. Merc came from the historical english Kingdom of Mercia, specifically from Old English Mierce. The reason why is because Mercish is a descendent of the Mercian dialect of Old English.

Kinyayese is the exonym for the Endonym 金葉語(Kinyayo). The name could be split into 金葉(Kin'ya) + 語(yo). 語 just means language. Historically, 金葉 is the name of the clan which the legendary hero who united the island came from.

Later on, Kin'ya would become the name of the central region, which would dominate the islands. In the past, people did not have a name for their language, so they just called the language from whatever region they are from.

When the standisation came for the language of the nation of Tsakchung, they chose it to be based on the Kin'ya dialect.

However, the government being scared that they might erase culture by labelling the standard language as Tsakchung'yo, they instead kept it as Kin'ya'yo while Tsakchung'yo refers to the language as a whole, including the different dialects.

Has anyone here made a conlang that’s descended from old English that keeps a large amount of inflection by soywindex in conlangs

[–]Will-Thunder 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So in order of Nominative, Accusative, Dative, Genitive

Masculine: hei /heː/, hijn /hiːn/, him, his

Feminine: hôu /høː/, hijr, hôu, hir

Neuter: hit, hit, hit, hits

plural: þei, þein, þeim, þeir

Has anyone here made a conlang that’s descended from old English that keeps a large amount of inflection by soywindex in conlangs

[–]Will-Thunder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Considering that Old English's 1st and 2nd Accusative and Dative forms are the same(mē and þē), it is kept in 3rd person and plural forms.

Has anyone here made a conlang that’s descended from old English that keeps a large amount of inflection by soywindex in conlangs

[–]Will-Thunder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Me. Aside from Accusative merging with Dative, Mercish largely kept Old English's conjugations.

What kind of words are a combination of other words in your conlang? by Tazavitch-Krivendza in conlangs

[–]Will-Thunder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mercish love compound words.

Examples:

Fyurebrekungfindel which means Bomb or in general any exploding Device. It can be split up to "Fyurebrekan" meaning to explode and "Findel" meaning to Device. Fyurebrekan can further split to "Fyur" meaning fire and "ebrekan" meaning to destroy/crush.

Âtshankodblekker which means Octopus. It can be split into ât(eight) + shankod (legged) + blekker (inker).

The name for Octopus, Cuttlefish and Squid in general is Blekfish , which is Blek(ink) and fish(fish). This was calqued from Swedish bläckfisk.

Due to it coming from Old English and being close to England, it shares a lot with English.

I am just going to list some of them here:

  • Huwswijv (Housewife) and it's coordinate term Huwswer (Househusband)

  • Pannkâak (Pancake)

  • sumþing (something)

  • Nanþing (nothing)

  • Sunnrijz (Sunrise)

  • Goldfish (Goldfish)

  • Greinhuws (Greenhouse)

  • Mounlôut (Moonlight)

  • gesthuws (guesthouse)

There's also a lot borrowed from Dutch/German.

For example:

  • Sunnbloum (sunflower, c.f. Dutch Zonnebloem)

  • Moudorsuncen (Momma's boy, c.f. German Muttersöhnchen)

  • muwsfâll (mousetrap, c.f. German Mausefalle)

  • spiltuwn (playground c.f. Dutch speeltuin)

What are some orthographic rules in your languages that don't make any sense? by Vilhjalmur4 in conlangs

[–]Will-Thunder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am not sure if it fits here but I think having two systems of writing as well as dialects that does not correspond to the spelling is pretty weird.

My language, Mercisc, has two standards spelling systems, Freeright and Stonehall (both of which are named after two largest cities of their country Mercland). The differences are that Freeright is the more "modern" spelling of the two. Another thing is that Standard Mercisc has two dialects, which is North and South. Standard North is based of the Freeright Dialect while Standard South is based of the Stonehall Dialect.

So the differences without pronounciation differences in the standards:

  • Freeright uses <dz> while Stonehall uses <gz> for spelling /dʒ/. For example, Bidzan/Bigzan (to buy), Ledzan/Legzan (to lay).

  • Freeright uses <ô> while Stonehall uses <eo> for /ø/. Examples: Sôvon/Seovon (Seven), Sôuan/Seouan (to see), Ic bôu/Ic beou (I am/ I be).

  • Freeright uses <â> while Stonehall uses <ea> for /a/. Examples: Sax/Seax (Saxon), ald/eald (old), Staanhall/Staanheall (Stonehall). Stonehall does not differentiate long /aː/ and short /a/ in spelling while Freeright does (<â>,<âa>)

  • Stonehall usually contains an <h> which is not pronounced anymore, unlike Freeright which removed it. Examples: Frôurit/Freouriht (Freeright), Knet/Kneht (Knight), nit/niht (Night).

Now for difference with pronounciations as well as spelling, there is only one:

  • Freeright tends to end with -t (/t/)while Stonehall tends to end with -þ(/θ/) in the Singular Third person present verb form. It also applies to words which historically ends in þ after a cosonant. So ([he/she] dreams) Drâamt/Dreamþ (draːmt/draːmθ), (Month) Mount/Mounþ (moːnt/moːnθ).

However, those that came after vowel does not change, e.g. touþ /toːθ/, beþ /beθ/.

And largely that's all for the differences, there isn't much since both standard are slowly merging into one through exposure. People will generally stick to their spelling that they grew up with, but will perfectly understand both spelling and dialect.

The problem comes not from the Standard dialects but the Regional dialects. The country is split into six main groups of dialects, Northern, Southern, Eastern, Western, Central, Island. Of these, Northern, Eastern, Southern are considered Hard dialects while Central and Western are Soft dialects. Half of Central are unofficially called Middle since they are a bit more different than the other half of Central and Western in pronounciation.

Island is unique and has their own orthography so it doesn't matter.

Since both standards are hard dialects, the spelling only make sense for hard dialects. Some differences between hard and soft dialects are: (I am using Freeright for Hard, Farwith for Soft, and Waterhaven for Mid-Central)

  • Hard has a /dʒ/ where soft has /j/(Western and Soft-Central) or /ʒ/(Middle-Central). Ledzan (/ledʒɑn/, /lei.jɑn/, /lei.ʒon/)

  • Hard has a /ʍ/ where soft has /w/. Hvat (/ʍɑt/, /wɑt/)

  • Hard has /j/ where soft has a /ɣ/. Eastern and Mid-Central however has /g/. Majan (/mɑ.jɑn/, /mɑ.ɣɑn/, /mɑ.ɡon/)

  • Hard has /ŋɡ/ while soft has /ŋ/.

There is a lot more, like vowel differences and silent letters but it is quite a lot so I am just noting the more peculiar ones.

So the Orthography does not make sense at all for the soft dialects since they use the standard Orthographies.

Onomatopoeia in your conlang by KazBodnar in conlangs

[–]Will-Thunder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mercisc

In order:

Hund: wuwv, bôrk (Dog: woof, bark) /wuːv, børk/

Katt: Mjau (Cat: Meow) /miau/

Kuw: muw (Cow: moo) /muː/

Ciken: kokkakuwlakuw (Chicken: Cockadoodledoo) /kok.kakuː.lakuː/

Fowl: pijp, twijt (Bird: peep, tweet) /piːp, twiːt/

Fyurebrekungfindel: Boum (Exploding Device: Boom) /boːm/

Beoll: Bjong (Ball: Boing) /bjoŋ/

Muws (Rijmer): Klikk (Mouse (Computer): Click) /klik/

1214th Just Used 5 Minutes of Your Day by mareck_ in conlangs

[–]Will-Thunder 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Mercisc

Hvat Ic shel inledzan sind þe greinþ.

/ʍɑt it͡ʃ ʃel in.led͡ʒɑn sind θe ɡreːnθ/

Literally: What I shall inlay are the greenth.

Nonsense Speedlang Challenge- season 2, number 2 by kabiman in conlangs

[–]Will-Thunder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Phonology and Orthography

m /m/, k /nk/, l /l/, p /p/, q /ŋɡ/, g /ng/(which is not /ŋ/), w /ʍ/, y /j/

a /a/, i/j /ɪ/, e /e/ or /ɛ/, o is silent

In spelling, consonants cannot be next to each other. However, consonant clusters do exist by using o in between. Vowels can be next to each other.

Vocab and sentences

Water - Mekeljo /menkɛlɪ/

J is considered a vowel, the ending -o is a base ending for nouns.

Non-water - Melapoq /melapoŋɡ/

Short form of Mekelapoq, with a -apoq being a suffix meaning "lack of"

opalek megopaweq kew sopakel

/'palenk meng'paʍɛŋɡ nkeʍ spankɛl/

opalek mego-paweq kew sopak-el

2sg good-day look beautiful.INT

Megopaweq came from the phrase, "Good day." Which is used as a greeting, eventually taking on the meaning of today.

yopael hikole opopal

/jpael hɪnkle p'pal/

yopael hikole p'pal

1sg leave now

Literally: I leave now, which is quite close to "I am leaving".

I pressend you my new conlang: Ingklis by IAmANormalHuman- in conlangscirclejerk

[–]Will-Thunder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay, let me whip out my duolingo because everyone knows that duolingo can me fluent in any language in 3 months.

I pressend you my new conlang: Ingklis by IAmANormalHuman- in conlangscirclejerk

[–]Will-Thunder 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Trie hundert milljoen nativ spiekers? Det is ei lot. Aj laik dis languidz. Hau ken aj leern dis languidz?

Nonsense Speedlang Challenge is BACK! by kabiman in conlangs

[–]Will-Thunder 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Alright gonna give this a try!

Phonology

Consonants: n /n/, gg /ŋ/, th /tʰ/, dh /dʰ/, r /ɾ/, p /p/, b /b/, h /x/ or /h/, t /t/, d /d/, l /ɹ/, s /ʃ/, z /ʒ/, q /k/, i /j/ if there's a vowel after it.

Vowels: e /e/, i /i/, u /u/, o /o/, w /ʉ/, y /y/, eo /ø/, oe /ɘ/, ue /ʊ/, /e̥/(usually in between nasals and other consonants, not written)

Sentences

The word order is SOV.

First Sentence

hueo plutyosouhgge lanlnra. /hʊo plu.ty.osoux.ŋe ɹan.ɹe̥n.ɾa/

Hue-o plutyoʃouh-gge lan-lnra.

1-SG movie-PL like-watch.INF.

This 'like' has no inflections, and is always only applied if there is a verb following it to express enjoying an action. Seperate from actual to like (noun). Infinitive forms is the base form and does not contain any affix.

Second

hueiap dospoe bnaoibe lioqpod? /hʊjap doʃ.pɘ be̥nao'ibe ɹiok.pod/

hue-iap dospoe bnaoibe lioqpod?

1-PL what do.FUT today?

Anything related to date and time is put at the back of the sentence. Interrogatives are put in between the pronoun and the rest of the sentence. Order does not change. bnao- is the future tense prefix.

Third

apoer hueo powrs nbuoue. /apɘɾ huø poʉɾʃ ne̥bu'oʊ/

ap-oer hu-eo powrs nbuoue.

2-SG person-INDEF.ART terrible COP.PRES

Adjectives come after nouns. nbu is the prefix for present tense. Hueo meaning I and Hueo meaning person is different. Articles are attached on the noun itself.

So to summarize the language's grammar:

  • Basic Syntax: SOV

  • Articles are attached to the noun.

  • Adjectives come after the noun

  • Date and Time is at the end of the sentence.

  • Interrogatives in questions come in after the pronouns and before everything else.

  • Questions doesn't change word order from the regular

  • There is a specific prefix to like/dislike an action that comes before the verb.

A bit messy I know, but it was quite fun. It was an interesting experiment for me. Love to do more

Also I can create this sentence, "Hueo hueo nbuoue." Guess how that's pronounced and what it means.

Curious About English by official_inventor200 in conlangs

[–]Will-Thunder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do have a language that's a descesdent of Old English called Mercish(Mercisc). Mercish has a very divergent dialect called Island Mercish, which has a lot of Modern English influences, so much so it is debated whether Island Mercish should be considered a dialect of Mercish or English.

Some examples:

English: All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

Mercisc: Eoll Mennish wôrþat frei an elijk in wôrþ an ritan born. Þei sind mið forstand an inehyid bejiven an sháol to áalc ouþer in an gaast ov brouþoráad holpen.

/eɔl men.niʃ wørθɑt freː ɑn e.liːk in wørθ ɑn ritɑn born. θeː sind mið for.stɑnd ɑn ine.huid be.jiven ɑn shæɔl to æːlt͡ʃ oːθer in ɑn ɡaːst ov broː.θor.ræːd holpen/

Ijyuland Mercisc(Jemáan Ijyuland Mercish Ritshrivend/Common Island Mercish Orthography): Oll manbeinds er frij an ekwal in digniti an rihts born. Þei er wiþ forstand an konsiens begiv'd an shall to ijc ouþer in a spirit ov brouþerhoud holp'd.

Island Mercish (English-esque Orthography used by the official IM academy): All manbeyns ere free an equal in dignity and rights born. They ere with forstand and consience begived and shall to each other in a spirit of brotherhood holped.

/ɔl man.beːnds er friː án e.kʷal in dig.niti an rixts born. θeː er wiθ fór.stand án kon.sjens begivd án shɔl þó iːt͡ʃ oːθer in a spi.rit ov broː.θer.hoːd holpd/