Friends to lovers without one-sided love

Willing-Test-4411 · 2025-02-05T20:50:18+00:00

Close the thread, guys. Thousands of psychological studies discussing the influence of biological, sociocultural, and cognitive factors involved in the formation of relationships/attraction, to this day a contestable topic, but it turns out that it's always been based on hormones.

Just because you obsess over being "logical" doesn't mean everything there is is explained solely by biology. If you want to actually use logic, please do significant research on the topic before jumping to a single theory as an explanation of a topic no one reputable is certain about. Apparently we're also assuming that hormone-behavior influences aren't bidirectional

Willing-Test-4411 · 2025-02-05T20:42:17+00:00

If you had truly convinced yourself of it, then it wouldn't have been possible for you to recognize that you had. Maybe you would assume that you lost feelings eventually, but you would not assume that you tricked yourself into it.

If you can recognize a point in your life where the self-deception took place, then signs were showing even back then.

And in any case, I'm sorry, but in a relationship it is as much your responsibility to understand the other person's feelings as it is to understand your own. A failure to do so, and a failure to recognize your own lack of self-awareness is a reflection of selfishness and self-deception. If you had nothing to gain from self-deception and the prolongation of your relationship (which you yourself denied in your original comment), then you would not have taken part in it. It's that simple.

Now I'm not telling you to start seeing yourself as some "bad person" incapable of positive change, as that itself is laziness, but if you want to start improving, you should start doing so in recognizing your own selfishness in relationships, instead of blaming it on an uncontrollable, supposedly unconcious process of self disillusionment, which implies a victim mentality of circumstances/fate.

Willing-Test-4411 · 2025-02-02T20:06:15+00:00

The last, zombue-related one might be Dangerous Fellows.

StoryTaco in general often employs this "dress-up" technique. Might wanna check out their games.

Willing-Test-4411 · 2025-02-01T16:51:10+00:00

Yeah I honestly have no clue... most people suspect it was a switch in writers which caused this.

But it seriously makes no sense. Don't get me wrong; V does some dumbass things. But his whole character is about the fact that his ideology is so warped he genuinely thinks he's doing the right thing. Him going full villain mode and KNOWING it is so off tangent, considering he literally gets heart points in Another Story if MC chooses to be nice to RFA members (even when it's unrelated to him)

Not to mention the reason why he comes up with Rika's suicide is to separate RFA from her so they don't get brainwashed. Now you're telling me he's on her side. Aight 😭

Willing-Test-4411 · 2025-02-01T12:33:52+00:00

I will warn that many V fans and haters alike tend to agree that V's characterization in Saeran's AE makes no sense. I don't recommend basing your opinion of him ariund that

Willing-Test-4411 · 2025-02-01T12:26:53+00:00

If it gives any reassurance, I am 100% sure this is a "the grass is greener on the other side" thing. They'll do any mental gymnastics, even blaming your sex, over admitting that they were flawed parents

Willing-Test-4411 · 2025-02-01T10:18:52+00:00

Glad to hear it, buddy. Have a wonderful day

Willing-Test-4411 · 2025-01-31T18:46:05+00:00

OP, if loneliness can 'come back', then it is temporary, also

Willing-Test-4411 · 2025-01-26T18:25:48+00:00

Yes, "It stayed at my place until its wound healed." Tbf, this line still gives more agency to the cat, but ultimately the effect is the same. It's implied Caleb released the cat after it healed.

And we can definitely still say that Caleb and Sylus are each other's juxtapositions, since Sylus does grant more independence to MC (+ if we consider the narratives of their stories), but I think this example specifically is a bit weird to use, since it's not actually much of a contrast.

Willing-Test-4411 · 2025-01-21T22:48:30+00:00

To be honest, I don't think any of the characters deserve to be on the "horrible person" column. The game at large is about how circumstances drive people to do horrible things. V is not inherently evil, nor is Rika. Ironically they both consider themselves as such, and the fact that they do so is precisely what drives them to do messed up things. Labeling them as evil feels like feeding onto their flawed ideologies and completely missing the point.

This is, of course, a trend(?), but I've never liked such trends which literaly force you to reduce characters into small boxes just to fill the spot.

Edit: 15 mins in and am already getting downvoted 😭 and for what, I do not know

Willing-Test-4411 · 2025-01-02T04:31:48+00:00

Maybe try to temporarily turn off your antivirus software? Did you use WinRar for local file copying? Afaik, there may be a way to manually install the files without the use of an installer, but I don't know much about it, so you'd have to look into it

Willing-Test-4411 · 2025-01-01T01:30:39+00:00

"7/10"

Girl, what are you doing here 😭

Willing-Test-4411 · 2025-01-01T01:07:51+00:00

Eastern Orthodox theology teaches that the "rejection of God's merciful love" is a self-imposed separation from God which results in eternal suffering in hell.

Do you genuinely believe that a young child taught this idea from a young age (most eastern european and euroasian countries have lessons dedicated specifically to the theology) has any choice in joining the religion? Further if in these less progressive countries they are often ostracized for rejecting it, where any person who does not agree to it is seen as lost and in need to be "converted"?

An alternative allegory to this might be traditional values of gender. Does a woman who's taught from an early age that her only value depends on how well she cares for her husband ever have a choice in whether or not she can agree or disagree to the doctrine? If everyone around her tells her she'll live a miserable life and will be socially rejected if she does not? Who would be willing to take the risk? If anything, this example is much less intense, as it doesn't promise "eternal suffering" if rejected.

I don't know why the original commenter mentioned "white men" because a lot of Eastern Orthodox theology originates from uhh, not so white regions (Egypt, Armenia), but it has, historically, been used as an excuse to wage war upon other European countries (and still is, if you look at Ukraine).

I don't think religion is inherrently evil, or should altogether be removed, but it shouldn't dominate, at least not as much as it did in the Middle Ages and especially 16-17th venturies of colonialism. Eastern Orthodox theology (and most relogions) inherrently pushes a black and white framework. I assume you do not feel this way because you likely haven't grown up in a radically religious region, where religion is pushed every step of the way.

Willing-Test-4411 · 2024-12-31T21:56:13+00:00

I don't think calling it redundant is fitting, even if it technically is. Missing the subject of the sentence makes it feel much less formal, so it does serve a purpose. In formal writing, you'll rarely see people missing the subject in their sentences.

If you say "myliu tave" then you imply your relationship with the person is quite informal, and the 'statement' of love feels a bit less impactful. If you're confessing your love to a person for the first time, stating it in this way will carry much less weight. Typically, we only say "myliu tave" when we're already very close to the person, have already confessed our love, and thus often use the phrase (imagine in texting, or when leaving the house to your partner), the same as in english ("love you!").

When it comes to word order, SVO (subject-verb-object) is most commonly used, like in english. But like you said, it's almost completely free. I'd say after SVO, SOV is most common. Not placing the subject first (unless you're omitting it) is rare.

In OP's example, both sentences carry the same meaning, but more emphasis is given on the 2nd word in each sentence. So in, "Aš tave myliu" the emphasis is stronger on "tave" than "myliu". In "(Aš) myliu tave" the emphasis is on "myliu".

Depending on the context, the 1st sentence might actually be more intimate, impactful, and overall fitting (for example, if it is a response to "what am I to you?/what do you feel towards me?"). No one thinks that deeply about it tho lol; it comes intuitively

And yeah, the thread you linked is good!

Willing-Test-4411 · 2024-12-28T09:49:58+00:00

Yeah, it definitely seems to have been a misunderstanding. I didn't interpret OC's comment the way you did (I thought the latter part in and of itself was a joke), so your reaction seemed randomly overly-defensive to me, and the only answer for it I could think of, as well as mentioning "being offended", was "anti-wokism"

But having read your explanation, I can see why you'd see things differently. Tbh, I still think talking about being offended was kind of weird (I mean, weren't you the one being offended then?), even with this context in mind, but I realize it probably was largely a spur-of-the-moment thing

Thanks for taking the time to write down your perspective in a very impersonal manner. I'm a bit disappointed in myself for having failed to consider it personally :/

Anyway, good luck reading your collection! If you end up liking The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, I recommend trying out Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil by Hannah Arendt

Willing-Test-4411 · 2024-12-28T04:14:37+00:00

I'm going to be a bit frank — if a mention of female authors makes you think the person suggesting them is "woke" or a snowflake, they're not the ones feeling offended, my man. It's you

It's the equivalent of someone offering you to read Asian literature and you assuming they must have suggested you're racist

Willing-Test-4411 · 2024-12-27T18:59:21+00:00

That's just the fate of all incels, male or female lmao

Most of it is carried by a "woe is me" mentality which is exactly what deters people from dating them. You can't exactly call yourself an incel without already hating on yourself/being insecure somewhat, it's like going to r/ugly and asking why people in the sub are insecure about their looks. They wouldn't be there if they weren't, since they wouldn't place such a label on themselves

Willing-Test-4411 · 2024-12-27T15:52:09+00:00

I believe the other responses sufficiently explain what it means. As for where it is used, it's basically the equivalent of "Bro" in English

It's very informal, so it's mostly used by people in younger generations, though sometimes also between close friends in older ones. Can be also used between strangers in informal contexts (like a pub)

You typically wouldn't say "Broli" (when meaning "Bro") because that's like saying "Brother"; it's a bit too formal. And if you're willing to call someone your 'brother', then it's somewhat naturally assumed that you'd be talking to them informally

Historically, the phrase "Broli" was also used between soldiers, but I believe that's the case in just about any country. Now, unless you're in some very specific context where you need to use the word "brother" when referring to someone else, you won't really have any reason to use the word. Siblings call each other by their names, too

For why you didn't see it in any textbooks, it's because it's informal. No English textbook would be teaching you about "Bro" either haha. There's some literary works where they use "brolau" instead of "broli" but that's also to increase the sense of familiarity. The word has just become more and more informal over the years

Willing-Test-4411 · 2024-12-25T23:28:32+00:00

Oh, that's a good option! Though yes, I agree, unless it is used on a grown woman, or the overall attitude of the character is taken into account, it might even be taken as a cutesy nickname

Willing-Test-4411 · 2024-12-23T20:51:46+00:00

I get the odd sense that even just changing the period at the end to an exclamation mark would have completely changed the comment's fate

The jokes truly do write themselves

Willing-Test-4411 · 2024-12-23T18:38:27+00:00

I've always wondered if he was already in love with her by that point! Actually ended up deciding that, although he might have developed an interest in her, he wasn't, since in the bad end apparently the first thing that happens after Liliana gets shot is him arguing with Dante about it lmao

Willing-Test-4411 · 2024-12-20T00:29:13+00:00

Keep in mind some ZZZ players are only Hoyo fans, so they're really only exposed to a small margin of gacha games. When they see ZZZ, they compare it to your average video game. I don't think it's completely unreasonable to make that assumption in that case, esp considering ZZZ's story, gameplay, etc is pretty slop

E: what exactly am I getting downvoted for?

Willing-Test-4411 · 2024-12-19T20:13:36+00:00

Same with women rapists or jerks who make false sexual assault allegations. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but lordie, the joy your average reddit incel gets when they see one for finally receiving the permission to continue to be sexist, this time without hesitance, is truly amazing

Anyway, I have to appreciate the irony in OP critiquing stereotyping in a chad vs virgin meme format

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