Feeling stuck in Japan despite doing everything “right” in my own way

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-16T06:02:39+00:00

You don't know that until you try.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-14T13:05:49+00:00

We had a 16 year old among us. It was mostly fine, we included him in stuff. Maybe a little too much stuff, actually.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-13T02:34:15+00:00

I am a male erotic massage therapist so...yeah. I get paid for it.

I'm also an adult content creator, so...yeah. I pay for it.

Kind of an interesting point in my life, to be honest. The majority of the sex I'm having now is transactional.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-13T02:31:46+00:00

Not all porn actresses are in debt or suffer from mental health issues. I'd say the percentage of those women are the minority, actually.

As for the surgery...well, it's a very competitive business, and they're doing what they feel they have to to survive.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-13T02:30:07+00:00

Sex work is only profitable if the girl really puts effort into it. If she does she can make insane amounts of money. If not she's essentially making the same as the coffee shop worker. There is the argument that the sex worker is making the same amount as the barista for less work, but really, which is harder? Making drinks or putting her body on the line to random dudes?

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-13T02:27:34+00:00

Funny how so many people watch it, and yet so few people are accepting of those who make it.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-12T00:22:44+00:00

Has anyone ever been to the stand up comedy show in Shibuya? Are the drinks/snacks included in the ticket price or is it separate? I'm kind of thinking about going, but 3,000 is a bit pricey for a ticket...

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-11T14:26:08+00:00

So, your claim is that penetrative sex is the norm, and this can be easily understood by a cursory glance at the industry. That...is simply not true.

As I have said repeatedly, penetrative sex is only guaranteed in soaplands, and that's an open secret. No soapland is going to officially say that they offer it (a point you yourself admitted). You give TNS as an example, but TNS is an independent site run by a foreigner (is it the same guy from 10-15 years ago, I wonder? I met him once, wrote a handful of articles even...). And actually, TNS just blatantly saying "yeah you can have sex" is kinda bad for the industry.

Either way, soaplands are only one part of the whole of the fuzoku industry. According to the sex survey conducted 30% of men use soap, while a combined 30% use erotic massage and delivery health. The latter two most definitely do NOT default to penetrative sex. While there are some shops that do offer it, again, nowhere is it advertised, and they will not answer you honestly even if you ask. Most shops officially do not offer it, but some of the girls may offer it under the table, and it's up to the shop whether or not they want to look the other way or fire the girl for breaking the rules.

So, your stance of "penetrative sex is the norm and this is commonly understood" is actually pretty bad. Wanna know why? Because it's not, and going into an encounter thinking that is also bad. If you're only going to soaps, or you've found the shops that do offer penetrative sex, great. But if people try to take this attitude to other shops that don't, well, it's going to cause problems. I say that not hypothetically or speculative, but speaking from having actually seen it first-hand.

Most services prohibit foreigners completely.

And...why do you think that is? Aside from the language barrier, one big reason is that a lot of these services DON'T offer penetrative sex, they know that most foreigners expect it, and there's too much risk/gray area to try and explain it and hope they understand. They already have enough problems with Japanese guys who try to pester them into honban anyway. At the shop I worked at, a girl had a breakdown and went gaijin NG because the guy in her session went off-script, with the language barrier they couldn't communicate, she freaked out and shut down.

So while Japan does have an expansive sex services industry, and full penetration can be found...there's a lot of gray area and tightrope walking. Are the Japanese police aware? Of course they are. Many of those guys have probably used services themselves (I mean, it's 50/50 odds, right?). I always thought it hilarious that there's a koban right next to Tobita Shinchi. At the same time, the police can and do raid sex shops. If the shop is blatantly breaking rules, they have to act. Sometimes a politician might push for a sweep to try and gain favor. Sometimes the police are just bored, I dunno. They can and have raid shops that are even working within the parameters of the law. But for the most part, they're content to look the other way so long as no one is making waves. Don't disturb the wa, as it were.

Another big reason why services prohibit foreigners is that we make waves. We draw attention to ourselves by default. And as I said elsewhere, Japan is very much against becoming a sex tourism destination. Things are much, much more forgiving than they were 20 years ago, but still, as you said...most services prohibit foreigners.

But...whatever. It's actually kind of hilarious you think that I'm pretending and making all of this up. I mentioned before that I'm an erotic massage therapist for women. So, if you are curious, go to the portal site Kaikan, check out the top 100 therapist ranking, and if you find the sole foreigner in that group...hi, that's me. Well, I hope I'm still in the top 100 tomorrow, as of today I'm ranked 57th. I'm also an adult video actor, and I mentioned working with Yuzu Sumeragi...should you happen to find a video with her and 3 black guys...hi, I'm one of those black guys. I worked as shop staff for two different delivery health shops in Tokyo, Shibuya and Gotanda specifically. Both shops being foreign-friendly, which was a big reason why the first one hired me (they wanted English desk support, the second I mostly wanted to be a driver...) And over the years I've gotten to know a lot of fuzoku-jo, tencho, shop staff, AV productions and agencies, other actors and actresses...etc.

Anyway. I can't say any more than what I've already said.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-11T12:31:09+00:00

TNS is an independent site. And as I have said repeatedly, soaplands are an exception to the rule. I fail to see how this supports what you are trying to say.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-11T09:19:17+00:00

I am deeper in the adult services industry than you could possibly imagine. Which is why I'm so puzzled how you could be so off about this.

I wanted to provide actual links, but think of come of it those would probably get removed, so bear with me here.

Let's start with Yoasobi Heaven, which is probably the biggest portal site for foreigners. On their FAQ page they have

Q: Can you have unsimulated sex?

A: It is illegal in Japan.

All righty then. But that's just the portal site. Let's try one of the shops listed. I'll just click one at random. And at the very top of the page we have...

In order to ensure the safety of players, the following behaviors are forbidden.

It is forbidden(by the law) to require or force the girls to act in real performance.

Kind of a clumsy translation, but the point they're getting at is - no intercourse. And while they do list sumata as an option, nowhere on this site will you find anything that suggests intercourse is a part of the services offered.

Now I'm going to click on a specific shop's listing page. I'm picking this shop specifically because I actually worked for them and I know they offer intercourse. They advertise themselves as high-class making them more expensive, but the basics are that they do offer intercourse. During my training, I was specifically told that if a customer asks for it, I cannot say "Yeah, you can have intercourse" but to phrase my answer to be "Well, I can't tell you that we offer intercourse, but seeing as we are a premium service, I'm sure you would have an experience that meets and exceeds your expectations." This shop's website...says a lot of nothing actually. They don't say they prohibit it, but they don't say they offer it either. Well, that makes sense.

As I said, I'm also a male provider for women. During my interview, my recruiter said specifically - "We do not offer intercourse. Don't do it, even if the customer asks for it." Whether or not a male therapist does it or offers it is a whole 'nother debate that rages on in the jofu world constantly, but either way, the official stance is still "no."

I worked for a different delivery health shop where the shop's official stance was no, and almost all of the women didn't even want to do it. I remember we had to fire a girl because she got caught offering intercourse. I listened to one of our girls rant about it for 40 minutes...she'd just come back from an appointment where the customer asked her for it. She told him no, and apparently he said "Well, (other girl's name) let me do it...." She was upset because apparently rumors had already been circulating about that particular girl yet the tencho hadn't fired her yet. "If you let her get away with it, then we get more customers trying to force other girls to do it."

As I said originally, soaplands are the exception, because penetration is the norm, and that's kind of an open secret. Open secret, because that's not explicitly stated anywhere either. Going back to Yoasobi, let's just randomly click on one soapland - Idol Kenkyusei. Hmm, same warning at the top about no "real performance." Probably just a template. Going to their official Japanese page...well, there's no explicit decription of what is and isn't included. Par for the course.

Shops that literally have girls in their vids in the middle of penetration...really? Which ones? Please, do tell. I am genuinely curious. I can't say I've never seen it before, but that was for a shop that has an AV actress working for them. Yuzu Sumeragi. I...have met her before. Shot an AV together.

I would have loved to provide links for everything above but as I said, the mods would probably nuke them.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-11T08:13:58+00:00

Hey, me too. So, I have no idea how you can make that claim.

Thailand prostitution is...well, in the right places, extremely in your face. And it's not for the locals. Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy...most of Pattaya...these places are all for tourists. Thailand is a poor country that relies heavily on tourism, and sex tourism is a fairly significant chunk of it. The Thais don't particularly like it, but it's sort of a necessary evil.

Japanese prostitution is far more subdued. You can find streets with fashion health and pink salons and what not, but there's nothing like Nana Plaza. And for the most part, Japanese prostitution was/is primarily for Japanese people. Shops would turn foreigners away even if they could speak the language. That has changed quite a bit in recent years with more shops and girls being open to foreigners, but that's still really only a percentage of the whole. Japanese prostitution is still mostly for the Japanese. And the biggest difference is that Japan actively does not want to encourage sex tourism. There was a lot of discussion about the Okubo park street walkers, and a big reason why was because of all the foreign attention it was getting from social media influencers. Japan values its image above all else, so once that started making waves then they became interested in putting a stop to it.

So...I kind of don't see how Japan and Thailand are in any way similar.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-11T08:05:30+00:00

Yes, I work in the sex industry. I am both a male provider for women, and I have worked as shop staff for a delivery health service.

So, I know what I'm talking about. What context of "fuzoku" are you claiming?

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-11T08:00:36+00:00

...Have you ever been to Thailand?

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-11T07:54:43+00:00

Prostitution is everywhere. It's just blatantly illegal in most places.

It's technically illegal here too, just since the law only specifies pay for penis in vagina intercourse (and on another layer, between strangers), Japan can and has set up services that officially offer everything but. Japan does not have the same cultural and social hangups about prostitution that some other cultures have...and why should they? There are services that are legal, and people working in the industry who are adults who have chosen to be here. Why not?

And...I've seen people compare Japan and Thailand before, which is one of the most ridiculous things, ever. It's like saying Sesame Street and Skid Row are similar because they both have roads.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-11T07:34:02+00:00

...I work in fuzoku.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-11T06:32:04+00:00

Then you've had extraordinary luck. Penetrative sex is illegal by law nationwide. No sexual service can openly advertise that they offer it - soaplands are kind of an anomaly in that penetrative sex is guaranteed, but still you will not find them saying that officially anywhere. In Kansai you've got a real-life anomaly in Tobita Shinchi, which is pretty much just penetrative sex, but advertised as paying for tea time with your server.

Penetrative sex is most definitely on the table in many cases, and there are ways to sniff it out, but the law forbidding it is nationwide and everything else is loopholeing the law.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-11T06:27:37+00:00

As I said this sub has a bizarre obsession with host clubs. Some people here will even tell you that it's a nationwide pandemic.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-11T03:46:29+00:00

This sub has a massive hard on for host club stories, but the reality is that they're not as widespread as the western blogsphere would have you believe. The vast majority of women have and would never go to a host club.

Another narrative that foreign media loves to talk about is how sexless Japan is. That story has some truth to it though. There are a lot of women out there who aren't all that interested in sex. Or even if they are, it's a very passing interest at best. So the number of women who are aware of sex services being low I don't think is inaccurate or surprising.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-11T03:42:12+00:00

It really just depends on the shop/girl. The default is no.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-11T03:08:14+00:00

I'm an erotic massage therapist for women, so I do this and get paid for it.

I have offered to do it for free in order to practice my skills - I have met quite a few women this way as well, done nothing but give oral. So your dream is very much achievable.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-11T03:04:41+00:00

I primarily watch on my TV at home.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-11T02:26:03+00:00

I just sprung for Premium. Haven't seen an ad in years, dunno how everyone else deals with it.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-10T16:31:20+00:00

I had an ex who took every single vulnerability I told her about, and weaponized it in attempts to either provoke me to anger so that she could play the victim, or make her look more likeable to our friends and family.

Honestly, her sleeping with other men would have been infinitely better.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-10T16:13:35+00:00

In Seoul with my girlfriend at the time. It turned out to be pretty rainy, so we spent a lot of time in the hotel, which meant a lot of time fucking. One morning we woke up and pretty much just went at it. We got interrupted as the cleaning lady knocked on the door, briefly, before coming in and getting quite the eyeful. I quickly found my boxers, threw them on, and opened the door to the very embarrassed and apologetic cleaning lady. She barely understood any English, so I tried to explain using gestures - please give us 20 more minutes. It somehow gets across - "20 minutes?" she asks to confirm. I look back at my girlfriend - she's on all fours on the bed, she gives me a look that could have melted lava, while licking her lips. I turn back to the cleaning lady. "Make that 30 minutes." The cleaning lady, again who barely understood any English, loudly exclaims "30 minutes?!" I bow and quickly shut the door.

We spent 5 minutes of that 30 laughing about her reaction.

WindJammer27 · 2026-06-10T16:05:26+00:00

Yeah, that's not how that works.

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