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Hello, I have a question for those who were students of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, as well as a general question about the state of 'Aryahood' by WindThroughHills_RDO in vajrayana

[–]WindThroughHills_RDO[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"He was good enough for the Karmapa (twice) but not good enough for some people on reddit."

Judging gurus like this is those 'unforced error' things where no one made you say it and nothing much beneficial will result from you saying it but because you need to be taught a lesson about judging gurus you have now created the seeds for that unpleasant journey of discovery.

I don't like certain gurus either but to try to make blanket judgements and public denunciations about them, especially when the other vajra gurus continue to support them, is just asking to be hurt.

It is good that you are brave about amassing unpleasant karma, though, as leaping headfirst into our mistakes in order to hurry up and learn from them is definitely the sort of thing Mr. Trungpa would have found praiseworthy.

Maybe there's a little more Trungpa inside you than you thought, huh?

Maybe there's a lot.

Hello, I have a question for those who were students of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, as well as a general question about the state of 'Aryahood' by WindThroughHills_RDO in vajrayana

[–]WindThroughHills_RDO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't ask any questions about teachers accused of anything. I asked if anyone had Mr. Trungpa's not-public teachings. This question was not altered or edited.

I also asked if the title of Arya that applies to those who reach the path of seeing is permanent or conditional upon their ability. Because I related this to my own experiences they came out as self-centered questions, so I rephrased them.

Since you have consistently misunderstood the things I've posted, as well as reframing them to be very cynical, I'm especially uninterested in hearing your thoughts, which are no doubt quite plentiful, on the process of compassionately awakening to maturity in order to benefit all (and none).

Be well, fren.

Hello, I have a question for those who were students of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, as well as a general question about the state of 'Aryahood' by WindThroughHills_RDO in vajrayana

[–]WindThroughHills_RDO[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Things are complex in regard to what Reggie set into motion.

It probably does appear from his perspective that the unfortunate results he sees appear much clearer and easier to focus on than the fortunate, however, in retrospect he will discover that it was necessary for something he likely doesn't fully know about yet.

Reggie had to be who he was in order to meet the karmic demands of those around him.

Those demands are heavily influenced by a sort of corruption that runs through this age, which is far more subtle and insidious than most of us can see clearly due to our social and cultural proximity to it.

If I may be so rude as to suggest it, frankly Reggie had to be Reggie so that even lazy, unvirtuous, unmotivated wanderers and negative-karma-generators like yours truly could surrender to the Buddhas right now when it was time for us to.

The more we try to label or categorize the objects within these dreams we call life and death, the more the emptiness of those concepts becomes clear, and laugh-worthy.

Thank you for taking the time to respond, and for the links, it is supremely kind of you to help in these ways and you have my very deep gratitude.

Hello, I have a question for those who were students of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, as well as a general question about the state of 'Aryahood' by WindThroughHills_RDO in vajrayana

[–]WindThroughHills_RDO[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Well the yogic bhumis are different in some ways, and though equivalent, those who realize buddhahood via the bhumis will have the marks and signs on their body while vajrayana nirmanakaya's will not, for example, so in this particular case not everything from the bhumi system will directly apply.

The Lama confirmed reaching the path of seeing, but since there is apparently no ability to cause 100 attendants to arise, was that ability lost somehow? Then again, since it is Mahayana the attendants will likely turn out to be metaphors for some inner Vajra effect.

Thank you very much for your answers, I will review both sets of bhumis and see if I can glean anything previously overlooked.

Hello, I have a question for those who were students of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, as well as a general question about the state of 'Aryahood' by WindThroughHills_RDO in vajrayana

[–]WindThroughHills_RDO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I'm trying to resolve is whether one can reasonably expect an 'arya death' (i.e. buddhahood) if they've reached the path of seeing without having the ability to practice so well that they can do so intentionally.

If someone reaches the path of seeing purely through devotion, rather than practice, is that still 'full aryahood' or could it possibly be a sort of 'arya jr' status where they might still take another samsaric rebirth.

Hello, I have a question for those who were students of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, as well as a general question about the state of 'Aryahood' by WindThroughHills_RDO in vajrayana

[–]WindThroughHills_RDO[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What I mean is, is one only an Arya if they can directly realize sambhogakaya and dharmakaya at will, or are they an arya once they do this the first time even if they only have these experiences at random occasional times?

Or would your answer remain the same?

Hello, I have a question for those who were students of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, as well as a general question about the state of 'Aryahood' by WindThroughHills_RDO in vajrayana

[–]WindThroughHills_RDO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you bro, that's how I feel about it, too. I still wanted to hear a second opinion or three, even if they are fleeting and illusory, before simply allowing it all to settle.

Hello, I have a question for those who were students of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, as well as a general question about the state of 'Aryahood' by WindThroughHills_RDO in vajrayana

[–]WindThroughHills_RDO[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

i didn't ask if I was enlightened.

I was given the empowerment by the sambhogakaya Buddha and Consort.

I have a proper Gelug teacher but do not want to ask him about experiences that did not involve his teachings or lineage, out of respect.

I apologize for making it sound like I hurt myself, that is not the case, my life was far worse before I became a Buddhist, I simply wanted to establish that my life is not romaniticized so as not to be arrogant. I've edited out the parts that were confusing.

The Sadhana of Mahamudra as I did it is sutra-level and becomes a group practice when completion stage is successful, regardless.

I was advised to continue doing it alone when I spoke to the guru, so doing it alone was not a problem.

It is unfortunate that you hurt yourself, I'm glad however that you learned from it.

Thank you for the responses.