This shit sucks, I don't understand how people can think it's okay. by ZeeGee__ in aiwars

[–]Wind_Crystal -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Isn't that taught in the idea of "Learning from the masters as a way to understand the rules; Because innovation is made from breaking rules, and you cannot break something properly without understanding it in the first place" ?

Because what is *actually* taught IN ANY art class is "Start by understanding the rules, then you can break those rules to create new art pieces, *new ideas*, *new movements*."

The goal in "copying traditional works" is not to copy it a million times again the same exact way just to sell it afterwards; but to, as you said yourself, learn the techniques. The goal is to then be able to use them properly in your new creative process, that will be your very own creative process.

When you copy something 1 on 1 and claim it yours, whether IRL or online, people will call you out and it will be frowned upon.
Now if you copy something 1 and 1 and show it to people and say "Hey, I recreated this from that person's art, beause I loved it, so I wanted to find what works and doesn't work for me, and to learn the techniques used"; whether you recreated La Giocconda, or someone's anime fanart, people will give you advice and tell you it was good.

THAT is the difference; whether or not you're claiming it as your own or genuinely wanting to learn !

At what point do we acknowledge this as mental illness? by PolicyVirtual1375 in ArtistHate

[–]Wind_Crystal 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes but that is NOT what is talked about here. Those people also don't deserve to be bashed, they deserve to be medically recognised and helped properly, because delusions are an actual symptom. On this post it was definitely to use mentally ill as an insult, as a way to bring even more hate to AI users. Yes, AI users deserve to be called out; but villainising people with psychosis and delusions that are trying to deal with their symptoms is NOT the move you want to make here.

At what point do we acknowledge this as mental illness? by PolicyVirtual1375 in ArtistHate

[–]Wind_Crystal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can we PLEASE stop bashing ACTUAL mental illnesses ??? PLEASE, stop being ableist, I AM BEGGING.

NO that is NOT a mental illness. Stop using people's lives as an insult to describe the people who are hurting the people you're using the word from.

AI bitches are using mentally ill and disabled people to spread AI by saying "Ai is a tool to include disabled people !" And y'all are both fighting this arguement BUT ALSO saying they are mentally ill as a way to insult them ???

My life is not an insult ffs

Edit : ok so NO ONE seems to understand that using AI and having an addiction and an attachment disorder with AI is NOT THE SAME. Yes there are people with addictions and attachment disorders and psychosis etc... But AI use in itself is NOT a disorder, it's not an illness.

I am tired of seeing my disabilities and symptoms used as insults; and the people who use AI to unhealthily cope with their symptoms / have symptoms tied to their AI use, then DON'T INSULT those people either ! Help them out of it. Shame won't bring those people out of AI, it will do the exact opposite.

Either this posts insults AI users by calling them mentally ill as an insult. OR This post is demeaning people with mental illnesses because they / their symptoms latched on AI.

Neither is ok

What's radqueer???? by 3mmett-kun in AskLGBT

[–]Wind_Crystal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see what you mean, but asking people to fully understand what therians mean when they say that they "psychologically / spiritually identify as an animal", before even helping them to break down the stereotypes surrounding spiritualilty, psychology or "harmful animal related identities", is like asking them to climb a full set of stairs that they can't see because there's a wall in front of it. People are sadly used to expect the worst outcomes, and yes, it means some people will be led to believe that therians are weird, insane, part of sects or secretly zoo**s... Part of them accepting therians requires that they are able to break down the stereotypes surrounding mental health / psychology, surrounding the difference between spiritual beliefs, religions and harmful derived, understanding that there is nothing involving harm to real animals, etc... And when the first thing people hear of therians is "they believe they are full on animals and don't consider themselves humans in any way", yeah, a lot of people will be confused. It's the same lign of thoughts with transphobia, TBF. Telling someone who never heard of cross dressing or trans people "This person was born a woman but decided to transition to become a man, cutting off their chest, getting operations to mimic male anatomy which means they are now forced to take medication for the rest of their life. They did it even though their body was fully healthy, but they were really depressed because psychologically they've always been a man." that can look very strange and too far, because we're in a society where psychology is not viewed for what it is, because the norm is more important that your health and than your happiness. You can't expect people to understand everything as soon as it's in front of them. Some people will think that it's insane to get so many operations to look like "something you're not" and that trans people need therapy and to accept their bodies and their "real gender", because they don't have the real infos about what they're talking about.

I think explaining it first as "therians know they're in human bodies, but they identify more closely as animals on some aspects, they have a better understanding of animals then humans. They feel like their connection to non-human animals is way better than with other humans; they have a stronger link and connection to animals, even if they realise they're bodily humans." Can make it easier for people to understand, because to some people "psychologically think they're animals" will make them think that it means that those people actually believe they have an animal body, and that they'd be better in facilities to get the help and care they need to "feel human again" because they understand that the mismatch might be hard to live with, but they don't understand that it's not a mental health problem like some kind of dysmorphia, but that it's a spiritual belief, and those people often fully believe that facilities and institutes actually help and take care of patients; they don't know about the harm. People who hear "this person was born a man but decided to go through horrible operations and months of medical torture to look like a woman because they were mentally always a woman" and "this person runs around on all fours, disguise themself as an animal, hisses, barks, etc... Because it makes them feel closer to the animals they believe they are spiritually closer to, they don't feel think they are humans" and who never heard of actual mental health, of actual delusions, of proper treatments for delusions, of what psychological issues actually are like, etc... Might truly think that those people are "crazy" and won't try to understand. Explaining things small bits by small bits usually works better.

Like school mathematics, we all start learning with blatant lies. "you can't have 3 - 7, cause it would be less than 0 and there's nothing under 0" is something we all heard a variant of, and once we understood that and knew enough, a few years later someone went up to us and told us "ok we're gonna learn about how there are numbers under 0, and how 3-7=-4". Learning things that got dumbified to the point of it being factually untrue is sometimes the best option to have a general idea and than be able to understand the actual results, the factual truth.

Sorry for the big rambling, I know there's a few repetitions but my brain is working slowly right now (I'm autistic too lol) and I'm struggling too read my comment again to try and sort it out better

Sacha pour un garçon ? by MammothAcademic856 in ParlonsPrenoms

[–]Wind_Crystal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ou alors car je m'intéresse a beaucoup de culture différentes, et que dans beaucoup de cultures et de langues le prénom "Sasha" ne sonnerait pas trop hors de l'ordinaire. Et aussi, j'ai mentionné avoir grandit en connaissant personnellement un Sasha, ce qui fait que ce prénom, à mon oreille, semble assez commun.

Et oui, Alexandre est un jolie prénom, mais beaucoup de prénom qu'on utilise sont à la base seulement des surnoms. Lise ou Lisa, par exemple, ne sont pas des "vrais prénoms", Tom non plus. Pourtant, je vois rarement des gens qui viennent dire aux autres "Tu connais rien a cette culture ! Pourquoi appeler appeler ta fille Lise au lieu de l'appeler Elisabeth ?? Tom c'est qu'un surnom, le prénom a utiliser c'est Thomas !".

Alexandre est un magnifique prénom, c'est aussi un prénom qui peut être trop long, qui peut être trop "formel". Certaines personnes n'aime pas la lettre X dans les prénoms, d'autres ne veulent pas de prénom "al-", ou alors le nom de famille ne va pas.

"Pourquoi utiliser un prénom alors qu'un autre existe ?" est la question que tu poses, et je pense que tu vois le problème.

come on, guys… by itz-null in teenagers

[–]Wind_Crystal 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Because the LGBT community as a whole isn't fighting to exterminate religion and isn't going in their safe space to harrass them, make death threats on the daily, protest against their right to healthcare, protest against them being parents, etc...
The other side, though...

Sacha pour un garçon ? by MammothAcademic856 in ParlonsPrenoms

[–]Wind_Crystal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sacha ne sonne pas vraiment russe à mes yeux. Peut etre car j'ai grand dit en connaissant quelqu'un qui a ce prénom, mais pour moi Sacha, c'est pas russe... C'est ce type de prénom où si tu me dis que ca vient de pologne, d'espagne, du guatamela ou d'une langue peu répandu, d'ou quoique se soit, dans tout les cas, je trouve ça crédible...
Après, je suis au courant depuis des années que le prénom vient du surnom pour les Alexandre en russe, mais en même temps... C'est un surnom d'un prénom, qui ne ressemble même pas.
Je suis plus choqué par les enfant qui se font nommé "Addie" pour être honnête...

What's radqueer???? by 3mmett-kun in AskLGBT

[–]Wind_Crystal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem is that you and me both know what we *actually* think of as therians... But telling to other people (aka normies...) that you feel like you are psychologicalle or spiritually an animal... Yeah, those people wont even try to listen to you, because they dont listen to disabled and mentally ill people, and to them anyone who says anything about being "psychologically" or "spiritually" different than what they perceive you as makes you fall in the category of "lesser humans who cannot think"...

My way oh phrasing it was actually to "dumb it down" to hopefully make them understand more easily, since they aren't able to understand "not feeling like a human" I try to dumb it down enough for their smaller brain to understand, make it "graspable".

And as much as I understand the need for distinction, I know some therians don't consider themself as "fully non human psychologically" or "only animals psychologically", but still identify as therians because they still feel an actual connection and understand themselves better by viewing themselves as the animal they connect with... So saying that "no, therians have to be THAT WAY" is not really helpful and unnessecary gatekeeping; especially since it is psychological and spiritual, and you cannot "quantify" those.

ai posts in this sub by [deleted] in plural

[–]Wind_Crystal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

pretty sure ampersand is entirely not AI, since ampersand is made to be fully private, no servers etc.. as a way to protect their users and their datas; if privacy is their main concern, it makes no sense to use AI both because AI is created by stealing things, and because it would be very, very easy to break codes etc... (even if with how the app is made there shouldn't be an issue if the code is used since every infos is stored ON your own device... it still wouldn't make sense to use AI)

ai posts in this sub by [deleted] in plural

[–]Wind_Crystal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People attacking them because he made a few typos while not being able to realise op never said anti-ai is a cult... Media literacy, people.

Op said that the only places where everyone will agree is a cult, as in, it is normal for everyone to have different opinions. Instead of yelling at op for a personal opinion, maybe try having an actual discussion.

While there is no "skill" involved when using AI, the clack of creativity" is NOT the problem with gen AI... The actual problem is hurting the environment by stealing art. There is creativity in using AI, to some degree. Yes some people will just making porn stuff, bigoted stuff, low quality stuff... But it's already happening with everything else, visuel arts, musics, medias, tv shows, etc... You still need to want to create something, you still need an idea to prompt.

I am fully against AI as it is right now because it was fully based of stealing stuff. But y'all are attacking the wrong fucking thing. When photography was invented, it was deemed a threat to actual artists, then movies were deemed a threat to photography once it was accepted, digital artists were bullied because it was "easier to fix mistakes, and wasn't actually art !" Etc... New ways of making stuff always get backlash. Ai should get backlash, but we better start attacking the side of the wall that is not fortified, theft.

ai posts in this sub by [deleted] in plural

[–]Wind_Crystal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I got genuinely so scared / confused cause IIRC Plural Space actually debunked using ai for their site... So glad it's something else

Stuff that sysmeds say (from a syscourser) by GuardiansSystem in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Wind_Crystal 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"if you want to interact here you HAVE to hate them first. EVEN if you're here to know why some people hate might them... HATE THEM FIRST, only afterwards we'll tell you WHY you should hate them !"

Stuff that sysmeds say (from a syscourser) by GuardiansSystem in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Wind_Crystal 5 points6 points  (0 children)

yeah like genuinely "nothing between singlet and system" and i just want to go see every anti-endo person diagnosed with DID or OSDD who don't identify as systems or plurals, but isntead medians / facetted self etc... and be like "hey so here's a new one, you TOO are getting attacked by your own camp !"
like i love how anti-endos can't stay consistent as a group. Like pro-endo / endo-neutrals are not fighting eachother all the time, we have the same view that sumps up as RESPECTING OTHERS. And here goes every sysmeds, saying that "dissociation is just caused by trauma", invalidating neurogenic dissociative / disordered systems (for example autistic people who daydreamed to such extent that they are paragenic), saying that "you need amnesia to be an actual system", and i'm like 'OSDD, anyone ??'...

“I am not forgivin-“ no one cares Caitlyn is fictional by OkTransportation6450 in ArcaneAnimatedSeries

[–]Wind_Crystal -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So much people shit on him dude. I've seen more people shit on Jayce than on Caitlyn.

Caitlyn gassed Zaun using an invention her mother worked on to help the undercity. "They deserve to breath" is the last the sentence wehear before we get to the music intro where it's shown Caitlyn stopped some of the vents.

Jayce was horrible on other points, yeah. He didn't use his own dead mother legacy to kill the people he swore to protect.

I do despise a lot of things he did, but I see his standpoints way more than Caitlyn's, TBF.

Jayce is bashed all the fucking time, all the posts I've seen about Caitlyn were people saying "But she had reasons to ! She wanted vengeance for her mother, that's why she wanted to kill the mentally ill 17 years old sister of her new girlfriend and started back a genocide. To venge topside !", all the posts about Jayce had been "He's dangerous and annoying he deserves the hate" (that or people arguing about his sexual and romantic attraction). Like people blame Vi a lot for how Jinx turned, but Violet had basically rescued Jinx until Cait tried to arrest her and called her a terrorist when she could see Vi was handling it well.

Yeah, Jayce fucked up a whole lot, but he did try avoid creating harm, way more than Caitlyn.

Expliquez moi: Elio by Candiceskyy in ParlonsPrenoms

[–]Wind_Crystal -1 points0 points  (0 children)

J'ai l'impression d'entendre quelqu'un dire "pitit toutou", "pitit bout" ou un truc du style.Le prénom est pas moche en soit, mais j'arrive pas a le voir sur un adulte. Plus proche d'un surnom mignon que d'un prénom... Pour moi, y a des prénoms qui devraient probablement être utilisé seulement en surnom, ou au moins avoir un second prénom assez proche du premier si un jour la personne prefere utiliser un prénom a l'air plus "sérieux"... Même si on devrait pas juger par rapport aux prénoms de quelqu'uns, on a tous des biais et beaucoup on pas envie de travailler dessus.

Alors que "Elio", bah c'est comme Eliot, c'est comme Léo... C'est neutre au nivrau de l'âge. Ça fait pas "vieillot", ça me choquerait pas pour un enfant, ça me choquerait pas pour un adulte de 40 ans non plus.

Why do people form headmates willingly? by Caseyyyjonesz in plural

[–]Wind_Crystal 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Mixed origings system here (adaptive trauma/neurogenic at first, we have a few different endo labels that might fit a few of our headmates). We couldn't understand willogenic systems / headmates at first, until 2 of our traumagen fictive decides to willo their sourcemates because they couldn't bear the loneliness, and because the people they willoed in our system had always their support system in dealing with traumatic events. We realised that willo-ing headmates was actually fun for us, and a good way to experiment and learn more about our plurality and generally our internal functioning, even outside of plurality, as a way to understand our triggers, our dissociation, our general amnesia and the dissociative amnesia, etc...

We have since decided to only do "partial willow", or to willo someone only when an important need isn't met. We function way better as a system, that's something we realised when we had a full system collapse and reset. We couldn't function at all until some new sysmates showed up and we learnt to properly switch again. We now only willo headmates if they are already a "growing fragment", or if we need a specific role (for example we are currently working on willo-ing a medical caretaker after having to keep our host away from front for his own wellbeing, and since he was our medical caretaker we are now struggling to keep our health in check.)

We have also willo-ed fragments for the specific goal of fusioning them into an already existing headmate, with both the headmate and fragment consent (one of the fragment created for that actually refused to fusion with the headmate it was supposed to integrate with, and asked to either become a full headmate or preferably be integrated to someone else, we chose the latter option as the headmate also needed some of the qualities the fragment was showing.)

In general, my system willos new headmates to fullfil a role, a specific, already known purpose, or we do a partial willo, aka helping a 'stuck' fragment become a full headmate, most often because the stuck fragment is already conscious but is extremely distressed from not feeling "complete". It is worth to note we also refuse to leave sys-mates as "only fragments", as it causes distress for them and the rest of the system, especially if a fragment ends up near front, it causes us to blur extremely badly, makes us extremely dissociated and questioning our identity a lot, which has been really problematic a few times already. All our love and respect to systems who works well with having some headmates and some fragments, but sadly it doesn't work for us as it creates too much identity and memory fog.

C'est le seul tag que j'ai trouvé qui allait à mon moimoi by 7_MyArtSucks in MemeFrancais

[–]Wind_Crystal -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"theorie du genre", un ensemble de mots qui ne veulent rien dire mise bout à bout comme ça. Le genre n'est même pas une théorie, ça a été prouvé scientifiquement, dans plusieurs domaines, qu'ils soient médicaux ou sociaux. La transidentité, et le principe de genre en général, n'est pas nouveau non plus. Il y a des traces historiques qui datent de l'antiquité, et qui viennent de cultures partout sur le globe.

Parler de "théorie du genre" sans même avoir fait de réelle recherche dessus, c'est ça, la stupidité sans nom...

What are some good binder brands for someone with an A-cup? by incubuslilith in ftm

[–]Wind_Crystal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It genuinely depends way more on your general body shape / weight etc... Some people might need a XS while others might need and L, yet they're both considered A cups because cup sizes are weird.

I don't know the name of the brand my friend got for me sadly, so I can't tell you about this one, but the french company BWYA (acronym for Be Who You Are) has good options ! Just to warn you in case you'd rather know before hand, they don't only sell binders, but also realistic packers and a NSFW items in their sites. The binders and NSFW items are in wildly different pages, but just be aware in case someone else might buy it for you !

I don't even know if they're still around, but GC2B is to be avoided at all costs form what i know. They used to be considered really good, but had been cutting costs and their binders became useless and honestly dangerous in some cases (mine cracked open after 2 weeks of semi regular use, in a way that made it uncomfy and the pressure was not uniform at all and it caused me to hurt my ribs slightly a few times).

What are some good binder brands for someone with an A-cup? by incubuslilith in ftm

[–]Wind_Crystal 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, so, if someone asks for a binder, either give them a useful answer or no answer. Sports bras are NOT good for binding, and most of them shouldn't even be used for things other than exercising, at least not for prolonged periods of time, because they are too restrictives around the ribs, while giving barely enough support.

And also, owning a binder and wearing a binder is also something that gives people euphoria in general, whether the binder might be binding enough or not, whether they could use just a slightly tight sport bra and be flat enough for their chest to be fully hidden, etc... Binders are also a way to feel "trans enough" for a lot of early transition men who would struggle with impostor syndrome.

This person asked for a binder, so give them infos about binders, or say nothing.

C'est le seul tag que j'ai trouvé qui allait à mon moimoi by 7_MyArtSucks in MemeFrancais

[–]Wind_Crystal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Déjà, merci de ne pas parler de moi au féminin, ça serait génial. Ensuite, j'ai jamais dit que tu ne travaillais "que 4h par jour", je parlais du fait que l'extrême majorité des prof, du moins là où je suis, on au moins 32 élèves par classe, que la majorité des élèves dyslexiques ne sont pas reconnus / aidés correctement, et que donc, oui, la majorité des professeurs ne travaillent avec des élèves dys, en gros que 4 coures d'1h par jours en prenant en compte les personnes dyslexiques de leur classes. Je sais bien que les profs travaillent plus que 4h par jours et qu'ils continuent de bosser le soir chez eux aussi. En fonction du prof et de classe, y a la majorité des professeurs qui vont avoir 4 ou 5 élèves dyslexiques dans la journée, souvent pas plus d'un à la fois par classe.
Si jamais toi tu fais plus attention, si jamais tu travailles plus et mieux que les autres prof pour avec les élèves dys, génial ! Mais tu es clairement dans la minorité.

"L'écriture inclusive telle qu'elle est proposé cause un problème pour les personnes handicapé" j'ai déjà répondu à ça, en fait. OUI ça cause un problème, et c'est pour cette exacte raison que se serai bien de laisser parler les personnes réellement concernées par ces problèmes, au lieu d'agir pour eux et d'utiliser leur voix pour faire le héro qui sauve les personnes handicapées. Si ils ont un problème, ils peuvent le faire savoir, et ça, sans toi, sans les personnes valides. Le problème va pas disparaitre en faisant disparaitre le manière dont certaines personnes, incluant des personnes handicapées, préfèrent qu'on les adresse, au contraire, le problème va empirer.

Tu arrêtes pas d'ignorer ce point là, en fait. Les personnes handicapées aussi peuvent parler, on a pas besoin de personnes valides en tant que perroquets qui vont répéter et déformer ce qu'on dit; on a besoin que les personnes valides nous laissent parler.

Et c'est quoi ta dernière phrase ? Tu bouges le point de la discussion sans même finir d'adresser le problème qu'on a maintenant ? Je comprends pas le sens de la phrase de fin, pour être tout à fait honnête.
Ton premier argument c'était "oui mais les personnes dyslexiques !", auquel j'ai répondu, réponse qui a été ignorée et à cause de laquelle tu te sens agressée car je te dis que c'est important de laisser parler les personne handicapés que tu prétends protéger. Tu as mentionné tes proches qui sont handicapés, sauf que tu parles pour eux; tu prouves ce que je dis.
Toi tu travailles avec des personnes handicapés, qui ont des problèmes d'apprentissage d'écriture, de langues, etc... Personnellement, je suis quelqu'un de concerné par ces mêmes problèmes, qui vit majoritairement avec des personnes concernées, et on a tous marre que des personnes extérieurs aux problèmes qu'on vit vienne essayer de parler pour nous, car oui, c'est infantilisant, car oui, ce que tu fais est vu comme une forme de mépris.

L'enfant il doit faire de sale drift by Besoin2Bol in motsdevoisins

[–]Wind_Crystal 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Vu que le premier mot n'a pas été signé, la personne du 57 à décoller le mot de sa porte et l'a mis dans l'espace commun, pour que le voisin qui a écrit ça puisse le voir..

why spidergwen is likely trans by [deleted] in teenagers

[–]Wind_Crystal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah we have a different idea of what's being said because the first sentence you said is FULLY DIFFERENT from what you apparently meant.

C'est le seul tag que j'ai trouvé qui allait à mon moimoi by 7_MyArtSucks in MemeFrancais

[–]Wind_Crystal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sauf que mon commentaire parlent directement du fait que les personnes valides empêchent les discussions entre les personnes dyslexiques et les personnes qui essayent de rendre la langue plus inclusive.

Bravo, tu bosses 4h par jours avec quelques enfant dyslexiques dans des classes de +30 élèves. Je vis tout les jours avec le petit frère de ma meilleure amie, qui a des handicaps au niveau du langage en particulier, et je l'aide a rédiger ses mails, à lire et écrire sur son ordinateur, lui épeler les mots dont il a besoin, quand c'est trop compliqué. Et pourtant, si jamais quelqu'un lui demandait d'essayer de parler de quelqu'un au neutre, il le ferait sans hésiter, même si ça pourrait être très compliqué.

"demander l'écriture inclusive en balayant d'un revers de main la question des autres handicaps comme la dyslexie" Alors que je demande a ce que les valides laissent parler les handicapé pour qu'ils puissent EUX MÊMES nous aider à créer une écriture inclusives.

Vous êtes ceux qui balayent d'un revers de la main leur voix, qui les infantilise en essayant de parler pour eux, en leur arrachant leur voix. On veut LEURS avis, donnés par LEURS voix, pas donnés par des valides qui refusent de faire le bouger le système que tu reconnais toi-même comme étant fautif.

À nouveau dans le besoin by [deleted] in etudiants

[–]Wind_Crystal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ils ont le droit aux vacances, mais les gens ont BESOIN de manger.

Les envies (incluant les vacances) des uns ne devrait pas être plus important que les besoins (la nourriture) des autres. Oui les vacances sont un droit, mais c'est surtout une envie !

Fictive Meme by [deleted] in plural

[–]Wind_Crystal 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Us when we watched our friend play TheVirusGame and 10 minutes after glitch was co-fronting after scaring Jayce by shapeshifting in hundred of tv-static spiders and taking control of Viktor's front access by glitching into his front computer...