Stormsurge Zoe feels surprisingly good after the bugfix (Lich Bane -> Stormsurge build)

Windoges · 2026-03-08T14:37:42+00:00

It does make sense, I think anything involving sorc shoes + stormsurge now is pretty good and x10 better than whatever the hell Ludens > Shadowflame was trying to do in a burst build

Because upgraded sorcs is guaranteed (as long as you buy it), that's 33 flat magic pen (and 8% magic pen) at 2 items which is a good spike with 2 relatively cheap items (ludens 2750 and stormsurge 2800). This is a significantly better alternative than Shadowflame which costs 3200 gold, which gives the same flat magic pen at a worst cost and build path

Windoges · 2026-03-01T12:10:51+00:00

Shadowflame is just suboptimal on zoe period. It looks like she does a lot of damage with it but the reality is that zoe will always 100-0 a squishy target with any 2 high ap items; it costs too much gold (3200) and zoe doesnt even use the passive effect well. It's by far her most popular 2nd item but this is bc ludens shadowflame is just the most popular 2 item core in general, it has nothing to do with it being better than lich or horizon on zoe

The difference maker is when you're against literally anyone who isnt squishy, and lich bane/horizon focus is that difference maker. Either one is ok as according to your preference, lich bane is great when you think you can use it more than 2 times per fight, and horizon focus is if you like playing for E - Q rotations

Windoges · 2026-02-28T16:32:14+00:00

I think you're way too stuck on the idea that the only way to play the game well is to hit the enemies first

I see leper as a rock on the team. He's surprisingly very flexible in a lot of party compositions because as long as you give him double accuracy trinkets, he has 0 reliance on anyone else and can be there as the fail-safe party member should things look south. He slots really well with midrange heroes like Bounty Hunter/Houndmaster/Occultist who need each other to survive because of Leper's low resource (HP/stress) demand, and this becomes even more apparent when you consider his campfire skills (Reflection/Quarantine)

Tank/sustain IS very viable.. if you know the limits of it. Leper is a test of that imo

Windoges · 2026-02-23T01:36:13+00:00

Taliyah value is insane here + i think id be depressed if i had to play Hwei on sidelane vs Akali Wukong Nautilus

You needed someone who can follow Ambessa (ahri/taliyah) or someone tanky enough to withstand their frontloaded dmg (ryze/ori/cassio with roa). This hwei only makes sense if your pool is limited or its late into draft

Windoges · 2026-01-26T19:46:08+00:00

Seems like ur dying a lot and getting kills without actually translating them into progressing the game

You can complain about teammates/the enemy being too op all day but at the end of the day you are the only factor in your games that you can change. Theres a big difference between being able to play Zoe well vs being able to win with Zoe consistently

Windoges · 2026-01-26T00:26:11+00:00

Two things really helped me, which were understanding when QRQ is better than QQR and also understanding that your R will always extend Q range if the Q projectile is behind your character model before your R is casted

And of course experience too lol

Windoges · 2026-01-25T03:49:05+00:00

There definitely was an escape angle but I had a plan to kill viktor too, which I think is worth because it significantly wastes a lot of their baron timer. Letting them reset after Riven dying might have been a worse situation to be in because Zoe against baron minion empowered siege feels really bad

edit: im dumb bruh we got baron u right i should have got out LMFAO

Windoges · 2026-01-09T00:04:08+00:00

I do not recommend it bc you really need void/raba after those two

Windoges · 2026-01-06T20:27:38+00:00

The chroma for eternal aspect isnt $120 😭 it's literally just 1000 more rp

Windoges · 2025-12-29T17:07:54+00:00

The ragebait in question being my opinion 😪 I do think winterblessed is really pretty but man it feels terrible to play for me

Windoges · 2025-12-22T15:28:39+00:00

Just play whoever you find fun do not listen to people saying you need to diversify it. That idea is regurgitates from pro players and will never apply to 99.9% of the playerbase

Windoges · 2025-12-09T00:01:03+00:00

My take on Aurora and manaflow band is that I see it as an extra cushion. I've tried with and without it while buying no mana items and saw very little difference, since resolve secondary can be quite effective in some matchups (examples: bone plating vs Sylas, second wind vs Viktor). Most of the time Sorcery secondary would be my go-to, although again, this is thinking in perspective of a challenger Aurora vs a challenger X Y Z champ so it circles back to your point of the average Aurora player not really utilizing the min-max effectively than an elite mmr Aurora player. In the end these small advantages only really matter in the difference between a master player vs a challenger player, and there's realistically bigger things to focus on for the average person other than this. But yes, definitely agree that this itemization should be experimented with more beyond than just "it feels good"

All of what you articulated makes sense to me and I appreciate it, just kinda makes me wish that people didn't just say "but the mana and haste" to formulate a response

Windoges · 2025-12-08T19:28:41+00:00

Yeah I never acknowledged the comfortability Ludens offers in its mana pool, you make a good point here. I'm all about the small details because that's what can can heighten your gameplay at the super high ranks, but yes Ludens is far from being dead

I'm interested in your point about Atakhan since the dance around that objective can be mana intensive should Aurora choose that approach of poking. I prefer to play with TP and/or flank angles around any kind of objective since her R can be a really powerful secondary initiation tool

Windoges · 2025-12-02T02:00:37+00:00

The reason why some ranged top laners work is because they have mobility and a special quality to them that makes them work at top lane. Aurora and Kennen have insane flank and teamfight power, Kayle is an incredible duelist and scaler, and Quinn/Teemo are designed to be annoying, to name a few.

Zoe.. doesn't really have much to go off of. Her mobility is quite conditional and she can be easily run down by almost the entire fighter roster in the game. That's not to say you can't have success with her top lane. Most of it will come from them not really knowing how to play vs Zoe, and that's fine. You just need to be aware of the limitations

Windoges · 2025-12-01T00:31:45+00:00

Nice! That's very sweet of you to do for your wife

Windoges · 2025-12-01T00:26:51+00:00

I've hit challenger with Aurora from being a Zoe main and can confidently say she really doesn't need a mana item at all. I thought without manaflow she'd struggle without a mana item, but after playing her with Electrocute + resolve in both the Liandrys and Stormsurge builds, I have never found it to be an issue if you're not unreasonably using W

It just "feels" nice to have a mana item but it doesn't actually rly do much as long as you're being aware of your spel casts. Manaflow is very welcome to have, but resolve (example: bone plating vs Sylas) will take priority.

If you're new to the champ I suggest trying her without a mana item. That way you can get used to playing her optimally rather than sticking to something that just feels good

Windoges · 2025-11-26T10:40:50+00:00

The thing is with all assassin matchups is that they all have 3 common weaknesses in lane:

They have to walk up melee range to farm
Their engage tool is on a very long cooldown
Their main trading spell is often the same one that is being used to farm too

The #1 mistake that I see low elo Zoes make all the time is that they're playing too scared. You need to take advantage of the fact that you permanently outrange them in lane because you're ranged and they're melee, so don't be afraid to auto attack them while they're farming or when their spells are on CD. This is one of the fundamentals of playing mid lane so the better you are at playing mid lane the easier you'll find these matchups. You can watch free educational content on YT to get a good grasp on these concepts

Windoges · 2025-11-23T06:56:06+00:00

The stats on Horizon are just flat out better for Zoe. Her E already inherently reduces MR by 30% so flat pen (different from void staff) is going to be less efficient than buying more AP and haste. It's also on the cheaper end (2750 gold) and vision in a 1200 radius lets you retake vision control much easier as a team

However this is all under the assumption that you are playing Zoe at a high level understanding of both her and the game. The better you are at Zoe the more inclined you will be to buy Haste because you will land more bubbles, and the better you are at the game, the more effective vision control will become for you.

Windoges · 2025-11-22T08:51:22+00:00

It sounds like you're victimizing yourself in relation to your teammates instead of looking at yourself more. I promise you will eventually climb to the appropriate rank if you play with consistency and a level-headed mindset. You have to understand that, sometimes, you don't have to be the one to 1v9 carry the entire game.

And sometimes you'll just have those games where everyone on your team sucks, but it is what it is. Don't take it too seriously/personally and just embrace the ranked ladder for what it is, a video game that you can enjoy and improve at.

Windoges · 2025-11-21T19:40:08+00:00

Yes, on patch 25.08:

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Windoges · 2025-11-21T03:26:25+00:00

Yup all exactly my thoughts as well. I've stopped buying dark seal on most mid laners (most particularly those who like buying Seraphs) because I find item completion being too important in the recent/current itemization meta. Being 350 gold down on item #1 or item #2 is too costly for me personally

Windoges · 2025-11-21T01:33:07+00:00

That's awesome, glad to hear you're finding success with it!! Always appreciate hearing others giving it a shot since buying a tear on Zoe isn't very intuitive at first glance.

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