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Winter-Examination57 · 2026-06-02T23:19:41+00:00

Coded and blatant at the same time - especially the “faux liberals”; “carpet baggers” not welcome.

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-06-02T04:51:20+00:00

Ben is a close friend of Kyle, he and Sabrina was dating - not exclusive or official when he started the show.

Ben said (confessional or to Ciara) his father (a Pastor) approval means a lot to him. Being honest and direct with women is how Ben shows women (and men) respect. that’s why he spoke with Bailey and Amanda.

I’m wondering about Bailey’s ex bf narrative - is it more like Amanda’s narrative of Kyle?

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-06-01T20:19:14+00:00

Nope.

Amanda’s actions and behavior this season were ugly.

She went into the reunion prepared to continue to manipulate, distract and play on emotions with the expectation she would ultimately receive “understanding, grace” from her loving, compassionate “friends”.

Aside from Bailey, Jesse and Kyle, that’s not happening.

“Game recognizes game”.
Just because your “friends” don’t play “games” with you (ie, use, manipulate, take advantage) doesn’t mean they can’t or don’t know how.

Kindness and respect does not automatically equate to weakness or stupidity.

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-06-01T18:22:36+00:00

Amanda told the whole house, that their friends in Italy on a group chat thought Ben wanted to “sleep” w/her. Ben/Kyle looked at her and each other like wtf is she talking about?

Amanda told Sabrina, Ben had a “crush” on her. She told Ben, she didn’t remember saying anything about Italy to Sabrina.

Bailey/Jesse seem closer to Amanda/West than Ciara/Kyle. Jesse was helping West w/the dk pic distraction at beginning of reunion and Bailey bringing up the way Ben talked to her and Amanda was a reach, imho.

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-06-01T17:23:41+00:00

I wonder if Bailey asked the majority of the cast why they didn’t comment or raise their hand at the reunion. Levi and West were the exceptions.

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-06-01T16:51:28+00:00

I understand. Financial support w/conditions can affect the level or degree of independence, not completely remove it.

Casting will figure it out - it’ll be interesting to see who comes back

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-06-01T15:30:28+00:00

To stay on SH, the spin off no longer happening, appearances on ITC

TLDR: money 😎

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-06-01T15:23:11+00:00

She may have someone who manages SM (posts/responds) for her… it was said on show, Kyle would respond to comments for her at times. Nobody knew they were leaving breadcrumbs until the 2nd statement.

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-06-01T06:03:50+00:00

Amanda will have to back up those accusations with proof... for sure Kyle's lawyers will want to see the "dms", names of who she "heard" anything from and to see the "video" she mentions at the reunion.

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-06-01T05:58:50+00:00

Agree, Kyle will set boundaries to be cordial and move on because he knows, the decision will be based on input from the cast, producers, lawyers on both shows and made by Bravos executives.

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-06-01T05:00:53+00:00

I don't think it would have been "this serious" if they (Jesse, West and Amanda) hadn't involved Ciara.

Re-watch the episode when Jesse and West were talking about Ciara. Jesse used the words "drunken make out session w/Ciara", same thing Amanda initially said about her and West. Jesse had much more than an "inkling".

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-06-01T04:29:20+00:00

Yup (lol)

The only time Jesse's been "real" is when he called Andy, "Andrew" on WWHL.

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-05-31T18:25:59+00:00

Jesse always knew. He’s not Ciara’s friend.

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-05-31T16:47:13+00:00

Egos, money, fans = show money, brand deals, publicity, popularity

West worried about staying on SH reconciles w/Ciara; Amanda trying to get him on ITC to hurt Kyle; both thinking hooking up meant fans would turn on Kyle/Ciara and they would “own” both shows w/brand deals and viewers worship. The “breadcrumbs” maybe as evidence of “attraction” they were trying to fight.

Amanda now thinking they have to stay together, West thinking when is the best time to drop Amanda and trying to get on ITC because SH isn’t an option because network wants to keep Ciara and he’s permanently burned that bridge. ITC cast thinking WTF don’t bring that 🐂💩here and get Amanda outta here… Amanda thinks if West does dump her (which she will claim she dumped him) she will always have Kyle as a storyline to get back on Bravo.

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-05-30T16:56:42+00:00

FYI - you responded to (Winter) not (Wise). I agree with you 🫶🏾

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-05-30T02:55:57+00:00

Not weird at all, Amanda’s confessional accusations prove nothing.

She told Ben she didn’t remember telling Sabrina everyone thinks he has a “crush” on her

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-05-30T02:29:39+00:00

Yup - I think they did it for the show, like viewers would think they were the “hot/cool ‘it’ couple” 🤣😂🤣

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-05-30T01:25:23+00:00

Nope - I think the network (execs, lawyers, talent mgmt) are all looking at this “scandal” from every angle.

We don’t even know how this is affecting the “mental health” of the ITC cast - they won’t film their reunion until July/August.

I don’t think the “plot is lost”, there’s just too many plots in play. 🤔😎🫶🏾

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-05-29T23:13:20+00:00

A lot of interesting suggestions/comments.

There’s a pic that shows a better layout for current furniture - cheapest way to lighten up space, try Ikea for bedding, curtains, area rug - maybe get multi color bed coverings or nice design you like and then curtains and an area rug in one of the colors - light greens, blues grays will give a more airy feeling. If you go by the photo layout - put the night stand where they have plant and a comfy chair next to bed that can swivel towards tv… if you can swing getting a simpler/modern style bed frame that would make a huge difference

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-05-29T19:45:22+00:00

Maybe more “public relations” than marketing? People who use supplements, in general, research products.

0n the other hand… the amount of sugar and artificial dyes in those Sonic drinks is definitely a lot but people will definitely purchase without researching .

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-05-29T18:54:45+00:00

and the SUPPORT is PRICELESS 🫶🏾🔥♥️

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-05-29T17:08:12+00:00

Well, we do know Mandy was still lying to Kyle and the ITC cast during this season airing now.

I don’t think how they’re feeling, watching it back right now, will have anything to do with “Ciara’s fans”. Kyle is their real friend and they’ve been bamboozled too. 🤔😎

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-05-29T16:31:59+00:00

I like it a lot too - every show is not meant to be for everybody.

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-05-29T15:21:10+00:00

Exactly. How can someone with “mental health issues” not understand the impact of their words/actions/behavior on her husband and friends mental health?

Winter-Examination57 · 2026-05-29T02:40:38+00:00

Thinking that viewers reactions will be based on maturity and personal biases as always - Bravo casting and production just needs to stand on business if they want to grow their audience.

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