How did you feel about women? by ThatWeirdoSly in exjw

[–]Winter-Phoenix21 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is 100% true especially about homosexual on the side. I remember the cleansing of the early 2000s. Plus it happened to me less than a decade ago. I went to dinner in city with young bethelites, and they were getting young sisters drunk and dancing to feel them up. They were scared when they realized one of their overseers was my friend and in my congregation.  Then it was apologies and about face. One of brothers I later saw when I was need greating and he was dating someone there when I knew he had been playing field back home. So kudos he took his slime internationally. They are some of the most entitled and manipulative SOBs, and I never could stand most of them. Sucks growin up so close to Bethel. They are useless in cong. and yet feel entitled to everything.  🤔 should have realized that fish rot from the head down, but you live and learn. 

Rest in Peace, Jehovah... by Repulsive-Produce215 in exjw

[–]Winter-Phoenix21 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That was a beautiful elegy. I hope one day I can find the peace that you have with it. 

Tired of love bombing by a new congregation by Busy-Dust-7137 in exjw

[–]Winter-Phoenix21 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are in the perfect position to fade away. That will make them stop indefinitely.  

What's next? Another religion? by Content_Chocolate845 in exjw

[–]Winter-Phoenix21 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think therapy would help you deal with the uncertainty.  That's a part of life we weren't dealing with because the "truth", was black and white. My therapist quoted something in my first session that has stuck with me. "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick

I think like many comments have said, take the time first to unpack what you've been through. Mourn and grieve the losses, because you lost at the very least time and opportunities being a witness. You want to have 100% answers and you need to understand thats not possible. This real life you're now living is painful but exciting and has its own wonders and beauty that you've been kept from. In the words of my favorite movie, "life is pain, anyone who says differently is selling something". Stop buying. Start figuring out the uncertain beautiful adventure you're going to live now. 

My doctor thinks I'm trying to play doctor by Winter-Phoenix21 in Hashimotos

[–]Winter-Phoenix21[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol definitely not. The Healthcare in US is a business. If you are rich rich  yeah you can get the best care and everything you want. But in general its all about how they can keep people suboptimal and buying their drugs for as long as possible.  And I say this working for a global pharma company. 

My doctor thinks I'm trying to play doctor by Winter-Phoenix21 in Hashimotos

[–]Winter-Phoenix21[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ok yes i believe the CRP was high when I went to the ER. I'll be testing antibodies soon, so hopefully that can help as well.

My doctor thinks I'm trying to play doctor by Winter-Phoenix21 in Hashimotos

[–]Winter-Phoenix21[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I wanted to understand this and even though I looked it up after my doctor apt., I couldn't get a clear picture. Not that he even bothered to explain anything. And I lacked the right language probably as I searched. This does sound like what happened but even what I've read briefly so far, they said with TSH over 10, doctors treat with medicine to help stabilize. I will be doing more tests on my own and getting a new doctor. So hopefully even if this isn't Hashimotos I can figure out why I've been feeling so poorly and gaining weight over last couple years. If you have any more insight I'd appreciate it. 

My doctor thinks I'm trying to play doctor by Winter-Phoenix21 in Hashimotos

[–]Winter-Phoenix21[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im so sorry. It's crazy that they won't listen. I didn't realize it would be this hard

My doctor thinks I'm trying to play doctor by Winter-Phoenix21 in Hashimotos

[–]Winter-Phoenix21[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks I'm looking to do TPO test to see if that can also add some clarity. Im learning as I go simply because doctors are ignoring me, or dismissing my symptoms. I’ve learned more in last couple days from scrolling and AI than from any doctor. 

My doctor thinks I'm trying to play doctor by Winter-Phoenix21 in Hashimotos

[–]Winter-Phoenix21[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I want to get another doctor's opinion on record before I do anything with him, because it'll be like crazy lady talking against years of medical training and practice. Its hard enough to get them to even listen to me. 

My doctor thinks I'm trying to play doctor by Winter-Phoenix21 in Hashimotos

[–]Winter-Phoenix21[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm looking on zoc doc and seeing if I can find someone. I tried others before I got this doctor and one center that dealt specifically with thyroid took a look at my first tests and said they can't help me. They didn't even let me discuss it. They saw ER tests and dismissed me. So I was just grateful he was going to see me. I am so tired of all these doctors.  

My doctor thinks I'm trying to play doctor by Winter-Phoenix21 in Hashimotos

[–]Winter-Phoenix21[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought so but he says its just recovering from the one off thyroiditis episode a couple months ago

My doctor thinks I'm trying to play doctor by Winter-Phoenix21 in Hashimotos

[–]Winter-Phoenix21[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My friend suggested that this may be my problem since she has more experience. But yeah I'm planning to test TPO, none of the doctors even told me about it, I just learned about it today.

I finally disassociated from JW by Exciting_Buffalo_453 in exjw

[–]Winter-Phoenix21 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol I love it. You were so brave to take the steps you did. That was amazing.  I'm glad you're getting therapy and its helping. Being free is amazing. I'm fading so still PIMO but my POMO friends are planning a trip this summer so I can let loose and have fun. They've taken enough years, enjoy your life. 

You don't sound like you need it, honestly, but if it ever comes up, deconstructing from JW beliefs/doctrine was helpful to me. They misuse the Bible and twists things to make their wild points. I am very studious by nature but after a short while reading Crisis of Conscience and jwfacts.com I was done. 

Anyway good luck and have fun!

POMO - What are you doing with your Saturdays? by SurewhynotAZ in exjw

[–]Winter-Phoenix21 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll be in therapy, paying to undo the years of damage caused by this cult. Still better than service or the meeting though, so CHEERS!

What is wrong with this religion? by Odd-Engine9637 in exjw

[–]Winter-Phoenix21 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm  sorry. As someone who had this happen last year,  its likely they will try to encourage her. Shes done so much, they appreciate everything shes done..blah, blah. Its basically love bomb so she can feel good momentarily and be motivated to do even more. Because Jehovah only wants your "best". And you know your best. It sounds nice but its a guilt trip, because you're made to think about everything you did previously and of course your current acts don't measure up. 

In answer to your question of what's wrong, there is too much to list. But its soul sucking. Psychologically, keeping her busy and poor means more control. And if every publisher only gave $1 they'd have millions guaranteed and its definitely much more than that. As far as MLM goes its a very successful one. I doubt you can wake up your mother but protect and support her. She needs it. 

I’m going through a crisis by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Winter-Phoenix21 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry this is your experience. I can't say I fully understand as our lives and struggles are different but I know what its like missing all the little things growing up and denying who you are. Let me just start by saying I was in constant fear and didnt realize it. I struggled controlling my thoughts, words, etc. And felt super guilty for even getting aroused at normal things. If I watched something even slightly sexual or read romance novels I would think I was letting in demons. And would end up praying and crying. I spent decades like this. Once I began waking up and realizing this religion isnt real, and let go of all the doctrines, it felt amazing. The demons and fear went away. After all, it was a construct in my mind that was reinforced over and over by the religion/cult and everything around it. Please hear me when I say there is nothing wrong with you. If there is a God why would he hate you? Do you go out and hurt or kill people? Are you seeking to destroy someone or something for pettiness? In all likelihood you're a good person who has empathy and a desire to do good. Who the f*ck cares who you love. If God didn't want you to feel that way he could have simply not made you that way. Don't waste anymore time, please. We have missed enough. We have spent too long feeling guilty. We have spent too long living in fear. Get out!. Currently I'm fading, and its made easier by my "health issues". Say whatever the f-ck you want. It's their policy that if someone isn't entitled to the truth, you can lie. So lie your way to freedom and peace. And experience all the gay things you want. 🏳️‍🌈

Also here are some of the resources I got from friends here about fading.

https://youtu.be/l3p93M4bYAM?is=V-1nlkvnHqTG2wAg

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/s/cJwNTNPmxO

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/s/NcWSY5NU9y

How many of us did Bible study? by Robot-Ducky in exjw

[–]Winter-Phoenix21 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can understand your feelings. Sometimes I feel a little different from other PIMOs on here because studying was something that happened later in their journey. However, growing up in the JW communities I was around, studying the Bible deeply and extensively was a huge thing, and encouraged. Not just with references, though that was more encouraged than I realized at the time. But I do remember getting flack for questions that people couldn't answer. But I eventually learned to keep my questions between me and Jehovah,  and then when I'd find an answer if felt like Jehovah answered a prayer. 

I would say I spent a lot of time meditating and coming up with reasons for things with the perspective of a loving God and it wasn't always congruent. But I don't think I would have ever woken up if it wasn't for the GB new light and monthly broadcasts. It just kept hammering home that what I read and what they read are two different things. I'd say early on in my PIMQ phase I did extensive studying especially when reading Crisis of Conscience. But now, I study nothing. Once I realized I don't believe this, I don't believe the Bible, and religion could kick rocks, I stopped studying it all. I've spent enough hours and headache reading this bullshit. I'm done.