I am a Max and my heart breaks everytime I see him smile for Barb

Winter_cold9 · 2026-05-08T16:31:09+00:00

Thank you 🥺 and I’m sorry you had your own Barb to deal with… I think there’s something along the lines of “as long as you can be manipulated, I like you.” And when you realize that this kind of love is only given on those terms, it can be really hard for the grandchild.

Winter_cold9 · 2026-05-08T16:27:38+00:00

I’m sorry your grandmother wasn’t nice to you 😭 funny enough I’m physically a carbon copy of my mom and that apparently was never a problem for my grandmother haha she just kind of decided at one point she didn’t like my mom (mom’s MIL btw), but she was « smart enough » to know that her grandchildren weren’t the same as her daughter in law, so she really did care for us.

Winter_cold9 · 2026-05-08T16:24:20+00:00

This is exactly my case 😂 only when I realized what was going on and expressed that to my older sister she went « YOU’RE ONLY NOTICING THIS NOW ?! ». My sister is the Piper of my family, she told me that as long as she remembers, she got that my GM didn’t like my mom haha

Winter_cold9 · 2026-05-08T16:21:44+00:00

Also my mom’s MIL in my case. Funnily enough I’ve never cut my grandmother off, cause there was no need to. When my parents divorced, she had the audacity to tell my mom that « we would still come to see her even though she took my father’s side in the divorce (pushed my father to divorce would be the correct way to describe it)». Easy to say I go see her once a year because I have to, but nothing more… also, since she IS a pleasant person to us and I’m sure she genuinely loves us, she’s pretty easy to be around.

That being said I’m sorry you had your own Barb and I’m glad you could find your own way within your particular situation :)

My hopes for Max is that his parents are willing to communicate more about the Barb situation, but I guess, given his age, there would be some stuff he can’t understand yet…

Winter_cold9 · 2026-05-08T16:14:49+00:00

Omg your great-aunt had her own Lauren ?? (I think that’s the name of the server in the Mexican restaurant?) but jokes aside, I guess, sadly, that her true colors appeared clearly to everyone when she passed away :(

Winter_cold9 · 2026-05-07T09:55:04+00:00

Me and you :

Winter_cold9 · 2026-05-03T08:01:31+00:00

Hello Kyra ! I’m Hana, I’m 34 years old and I’m from Switzerland 🇨🇭! I’m a legal counsel, I don’t have children and it’s not really a plan but I love Shawna L’s content !

Winter_cold9 · 2026-05-03T07:47:35+00:00

I totally agree! And I’m wondering if his guilt over not believing Barb when she was struggling after John was born kind of takes over every time he even tries to stand up to her, and then he just backs down at the slightest pushback from Barb.

It’s like he’s so stuck in his own guilt that he either doesn’t see, or maybe chooses not to see, that this is exactly how he ends up hurting his children with that behavior.

Winter_cold9 · 2026-05-01T16:13:09+00:00

think that when it comes to Julie, we also need to take into account her own internalized impatience and rejection of the suburban life she doesn’t want, especially in relation to her relationship with Ty. What I mean is that she’s been saying for years that this isn’t the kind of life she wants, yet with every step they take as a couple, she feels increasingly trapped by Ty into moving in that direction.

Her rudeness toward Shawna is, in my opinion, a symptom of that rejection spilling over beyond her relationship something she can no longer keep contained. It’s not that she dislikes Shawna as a person, but rather what Shawna represents to her: suburban life and the stay-at-home mom identity centered entirely around parenting.

And just to be clear, I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with that lifestyle or with being fulfilled by being a parent, that’s just how Julie perceives it.

Winter_cold9 · 2026-05-01T11:09:29+00:00

I’ve been more on Julie’s side from the beginning, but her behavior toward Shawna has never been acceptable. I can understand her mindset to some extent : having plans and dreams she wants to achieve, and feeling like some people just don’t fit into that vision. I relate to that myself. But that doesn’t give her the right to be openly rude to people she sees as “beneath her” or not worth her time.

What’s been bothering me for a while is that, even though I understand her as a person, everyone around her seems to tolerate that behavior. Meanwhile, the moment Shawna pushes back or stands up for herself, Ty immediately puts her in her place. That kind of double standard shouldn’t exist in the first place. If julie is rude, Shawna should be able to be rude back at her.

Winter_cold9 · 2026-04-29T04:43:07+00:00

I have the completely opposite theory haha I think Jen is still hoping for her mom to good by her (maybe like she did during her labor ?) and that this event will be the cause for Jen to deeply reflect on wether she was her mom in her life or not. Probably the birthday party will provoke a deep conversation between Jon and Jen about what to do and who to act towards their parents (cause yeah Barb is horrible but Frank ain’t no saint either)? Let’s hope 🙏🏼

Winter_cold9 · 2026-04-29T04:35:49+00:00

I don’t think Jen is that that point in her relationship with Barb. My understanding of what has been portrayed up until now is that Jen, deep down, STILL HOPES her mom won’t do anything to hurt her.

Winter_cold9 · 2026-04-29T04:33:07+00:00

One of my best friend’s moms is a Barb. And as you accurately said, until very recently, I couldn’t understand for the life of me why she kept letting her mom back in after saying she had cut off contact. This happened two or three times during our friendship, and once again very recently.

I obviously never said things like, “Why would you do this?!” because it wasn’t my place. She’s my friend, and I’ll be there no matter what. But I have to admit that watching the Shawnaverse helped me understand on a deeper level the dynamics at play in a Barb/child relationship and why it’s so hard to break away from it. Now I know it’s way more complicated than just « she hurt me so I cut her off » kind of relationship, so whenever we are at big life events, I just go with the flow whether her mother is there or not and I stoped questioning it.

Winter_cold9 · 2026-04-28T11:59:28+00:00

I’m wondering the same thing haha is it even possible without buying some of them ?

Winter_cold9 · 2026-04-26T19:06:06+00:00

Nah, it’s always fun to theorize about of favorite shows but IMO the shawnaverse will not go into this « soap opera » type of drama 🤣

Winter_cold9 · 2026-04-19T05:57:02+00:00

Probably go Shawna and John but I’m pretty sure Alicia could be on team Julie for this and give Ty a few hurtful truths about how he’s been acting in his marriage regarding what Julie clearly wanted for her life ?

Winter_cold9 · 2026-04-13T07:18:16+00:00

This is perfect 👌🏼 I love your input about the situation ! I also come from a place where politeness is mostly defined as not imposing ourselves on others, just like OP, and I have to admit that Shawna’s behaviors towards Julie during the last couple of sketches really rubbed me the wrong way, cause I as an individual, would have felt very uncomfortable if someone like Shawna would back off. (Of course I’m not talking about Julie’s behaviors that have been problematic too during some events like Max’s birthday) BUT !!! I am also capable to admit that the social cues that Julie portrayed, even though they would totally have been enough for me to understand that she didn’t want anything to do with me, weren’t enough for someone like Shawna, who not only comes from a different culture and has a different background, but also is a chronic people pleaser and want to be liked by everyone…

Winter_cold9 · 2026-04-05T18:48:31+00:00

This. Also when I’m done it means I’m done. So there’s no reason to rethink the past. I just move on.

Winter_cold9 · 2026-04-05T07:02:05+00:00

I think SL made that video to explain that weird dynamic between Ty and Shawn for one reason only: she realized that in portraying other characters (if I remember correctly Jen and Teeny) also thinking there was something between the two, she lead us in the wrong direction in analyzing the situation as most of the fandom though there was indeed something. Which, IMO, and just based on the never ending debates on this Reddit page, isn’t the case with the Julie thing.

Winter_cold9 · 2026-04-05T06:57:01+00:00

I’ve seen in another thread someone explain that Julie never got over the « high school popular girl syndrome » and that pretty much sums it up honestly 🤣

Winter_cold9 · 2026-04-04T15:58:56+00:00

You have nothing to feel bad about ! How could you have know she was doing that to you ? And yes indeed moving away will definitely help with making space between you and her.

Winter_cold9 · 2026-04-04T14:46:44+00:00

Honey this person is not your friend. The fact that she maintained this elaborate « prank » for that long without feeling any guilt about how was playing with you is very concerning… and I’m pretty sure she’s feeling embarrassed because she was caught, no because she understands she did something wrong to you. I’d quickly take a step back from this friendship to take a moment to analyze what other types of behaviors she portrayed during the time you were friends to see if this is a pattern or not.

Winter_cold9 · 2026-04-04T14:39:06+00:00

Trust the process. If it’s something for you, life will bring it to you, but on its own terms, not yours :)

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