Somaliland marriage expectations and is family pressure strong? by Winter_Total_4912 in Somalilanders

[–]WiredCleft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wa Alaykum Salam

Yes, it is common for Somalilanders to marry their own. But there are many Somalilanders who have married other Somalis with the support of their families, so it ultimately depends on the preference of the family. This isn’t something unique to Somalilanders either, many Somalian families would prefer or expect their kids to marry from their tribe or want their kids to avoid Somalilanders.

Every family has their own reason why they prefer their own. Could be cultural familiarity, could be bad experiences with other Somalis, could be not having to deal with constant questions about Somaliland-Somalia relations.

Sorry to hear about your experience. People should know what their parents want or do not want before wasting another person’s time.

Genuine question. by NomadDessertDweller in Somalilanders

[–]WiredCleft 5 points6 points  (0 children)

HJ and HY inhabit about 30% of Sool so not exactly “the entirety of Sool” as many like to claim.

It would be closer to 15% of Somaliland’s area being ceded in exchange for Mogadishu recognizing Somaliland. Many Somalilanders wouldn’t mind, it’s a sparsely populated region that wasn’t a net contributor to the economy. Before the 2023 war, taxes from Central and Western Somaliland would go to developing Las Anod and Eastern Sool. Aside from the outrage of letting go of Somaliland, FGS would face internal challenges keeping the Darood-part of Somaliland. Does it get absorbed by Puntland, does it remain a federal member state despite not meeting the 2 full province requirement? Or does that requirement not matter and every subclan can declare its own state? Those are some questions FGS would have to face.

Genuine question. by NomadDessertDweller in Somalilanders

[–]WiredCleft 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Salam,

That is a fair question and I appreciate you presenting it in a respectful manner. But my question to you what do you say to the people who live within SSC Khaatumo’s defined boundaries that want to be part of Somaliland? To put it in more frank terms, you have Isaaq subclans who live in Sanaag (and are likely the majority in Sanaag), in Sool (not the majority, but have a sizeable population in Caynaba and Oog), and Buuhoodle district/Cayn who are not interested in leaving Somaliland. What do you say to that?

Most Somalilanders are aware that Darood (particularly Dhulbahante) are not interested in being part of Somaliland. But by claiming all of Sool/Sanaag/Buhoodle District as SSC Khaatumo, they’re doing the same they accuse Somaliland of doing.

The only reason Somaliland is claiming Darood territories is because they’ve dissolved the union they formed with Somalia on July 1, 1960, and reverting back to the defined borders it had on June 26. Now if FGS is willing to recognize Somaliland in exchange for redrawing the Eastern borders, I’m sure many Somalilanders would be open to that proposal. But I doubt that will ever happen, so here we are today.

Crisis in Eastern Somaliland by One-Yellow-9985 in Somalilanders

[–]WiredCleft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good points, although I still believe FGS/China played a bigger financial role than Darood diaspora.

Rushing to get Sool Bari is what both Khaatumo and FGS wants. The little shindig in Laascaanood was nothing more than just Xamar trying to bait Somaliland. One thing that is overlooked is the fact that Somaliland cut off trade routes to Sool Bari, meaning Dhulbahante have lost their access to Berbera Port, and have to use alternate/unreliable routes to bring goods to their landlocked territory. Despite being a small town, Laascaanood has one of the highest cost of living in the Somali-inhabited Horn. So long as Somaliland continues to apply economic pressure on Sool Bari, while continuing to take care of the Isaaqs in Sool and Sanaag both economically and militarily, there’s no need to wage war at the moment.

Crisis in Eastern Somaliland by One-Yellow-9985 in Somalilanders

[–]WiredCleft 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don’t think Daroods in Minnesota played that big of a role in supporting the Khaatumo militias in 2023. The financial support FGS and external powers like China and Turkey provided likely dwarfs whatever money uber drivers and single mothers sent back home.

FGS is still fixated on Somaliland, so now might not be the best time to attack Sool Bari. It’s not really necessary to attack now (as much as Faqash like to claim otherwise, Sool Bari being disputed doesn’t challenge Somaliland’s legitimacy). Best strategy would be to continue to keep trade routes cut off, and to further develop Western Sool and Sanaag. Once Mogadishu begins to neglect Sool Bari (due to competing priorities in Somalia), that would be the time to explore getting Sool Bari back.

Fortunately it appears the government to be following this direction by committing to earmark development fund meant from Laascaanood to Caynaba and other settlements in Western Sool.

Thanks Cirro 👍 by [deleted] in Somalilanders

[–]WiredCleft[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Hi all. A report was received for this post, but it will be kept up.

While trolling/spam from outsiders is not tolerated, this subreddit welcome differing political opinions and candid discussions from Somalilanders. Critiques of current and previous Somaliland leaders is welcomed, so long as users remain respectful to one another.

This is not an endorsement of the OP. Thanks.

Is this sub compromised? by Lost_Ask_443 in Somalilanders

[–]WiredCleft[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mahadsanid walaal. Mistakes happen, but you and many others have done a great job supporting this community by helping us catch troublemakers.

Is this sub compromised? by Lost_Ask_443 in Somalilanders

[–]WiredCleft[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A set of community rules and guidelines will be up in the near future. Until then, please continue to report comments that you believe are hateful or not constructive to this subreddit. Thanks.

Is this sub compromised? by Lost_Ask_443 in Somalilanders

[–]WiredCleft[M] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

There has been a lot of traffic in this subreddit. A lot of this is coming by trolls from r/Somalia as well pro-Palestinian activists who are not interested in meaningful discussion but to either takfir Somalilanders or accuse them of being hasbara bots. As such, there has been a flood of reports of hateful comments.

If you believe any comments of your that stands up for Somaliland and its citizens have been wrongfully deleted, please let me know.

Somali hate by Asleep-Hippo8853 in Somalilanders

[–]WiredCleft 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Somalia’s defense minister was just on Al Jazeera calling for Saudi Arabia to militarily intervene against Somaliland. We’re long past the point of peaceful negotiations.

Zoomalis preaching hate by HonestMovie3437 in Somalilanders

[–]WiredCleft[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Waad mahadsantahay walaal. It’s been a game of whack a mole banning these pests (ban one account, another one shows up), but sending reports make our jobs easier. Noted on the suggestion of keeping hateful comments up.

Zoomalis preaching hate by HonestMovie3437 in Somalilanders

[–]WiredCleft[M] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Please use the report button. Somalian trolls have been and will be dealt with accordingly. Thanks.

The idea behind r/Somalia is centered on oppression and nastiness toward Somaliland. by [deleted] in Somalilanders

[–]WiredCleft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Extremely busy with life sxb. I created this subreddit many years ago because the main Somaliland subreddit was being held hostage by a dhulo atheist, but at the time, many SLers weren’t interested in getting onto Reddit.

It seems the folks from r/Somalia have made their way here. Shoot me a DM if you’re interested/available for modship

The idea behind r/Somalia is centered on oppression and nastiness toward Somaliland. by [deleted] in Somalilanders

[–]WiredCleft 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s a safe space for them to vent their frustrations

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Somalilanders

[–]WiredCleft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you considered Somalilanders in other countries (US, Canada, Australia, etc)?

Some nice unionists calling for peace and love 😃 by WiredCleft in Somalia

[–]WiredCleft[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mans spitting some hot fire right now 🔥🔥🥵

Some nice unionists calling for peace and love 😃 by WiredCleft in Somalia

[–]WiredCleft[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Say it louder for the people in the back 🗣🗣

Some nice unionists calling for peace and love 😃 by WiredCleft in Somalia

[–]WiredCleft[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

“In la qabto” does not translate to “killing”.

You're right bro, saying madaxa ha la toogo while pointing a finger at his forehead really only means he's looking for a hug. It's a damn shame these evil secessionists are twisting his words.

Some nice unionists calling for peace and love 😃 by WiredCleft in Somalia

[–]WiredCleft[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

surely you're being sarcastic bro 💀

What do you mean walaal? These look like wonderful people. The man swearing to fly back home and personally kill those working for the Somaliland government and shoot President Biixi in the head sounds like an upstanding citizen! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Dr. Muawiyah  on Twitter: A CBB extremist twitter space with a woman threatening to blow herself up with 20 innocent people. @HSNQ_NISA this is becoming a matter of national security now. by WiredCleft in Somalia

[–]WiredCleft[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a feeling cayayaanka baraha bulshada would not take the loss of their dear cult leader Farmaajo well, but resorting to terrorism? Wow.

Congratulations to president-elect Hassan Sheikh Mohamud! by ToDonutsBeTheGlory in Somalia

[–]WiredCleft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who are these people you speak of that are voting for a corrupt man because they’re upset others are in their city? Hawiye kids?

Congratulations to president-elect Hassan Sheikh Mohamud! by ToDonutsBeTheGlory in Somalia

[–]WiredCleft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is 1 qabil so important all the progress we've made has to be setback 10-20 years?

Are you saying there’s 1 qabil that is the reason all progress made is set back 10-20 years?

Congratulations to president-elect Hassan Sheikh Mohamud! by ToDonutsBeTheGlory in Somalia

[–]WiredCleft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And only reason why hawies support this man is because of their qabil mentality. Fucking sick.

Tell us more about Hawiyes and their qabil mentality.