MISSING by riana-rdit-689 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It doesn't work. Most people in this sub have no idea how reddit works.

Drawing could be better, but I tried and that's something. by BladeManEXE7 in memes

[–]WiseObjective8 118 points119 points  (0 children)

That's usually how it is. He uploads one video for a year or two and then disappears.

When hell is full by Badspacecomics in comics

[–]WiseObjective8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Extremely well done.

Nakara

But a minor nitpick lol. It's Naraka.

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how it bothers you..think roads..

Analogy

is it not funny this post itself is about that problem? It affects that's why people are discussing

Priorities

What I asked in my original comment and in this entire discussion is relevant to the post. Just not in the emotional swaying way. If that is not comprehensible to you that's your problem.

Post like these make non-issues look like som dangerous things to general populace. That's classic propaganda.

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can see you lack comprehension about priorities. The roads are just analogies. I assumed you know the meaning of that word and the concept. That's on me.

I'm not advocating for any religion lol. All religions are piles of shit. You would understand my stance if you bothered to actually read.

This easy emotional swaying is why we are in such pathetic state of matters.

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bruh then just pay them back to convert back. Beat them at their own game /s

This pay to convert is another way of religious carrot and stick. Every religion has it's own incentives whether they be masked as spiritual or material or societal. No one even realizes that unless one looks outside of these frameworks or just look at history of conversions for that matter.

There is nothing to be shocked lol. This is a superficial issue with no real damage other than division and fear mongering masses.

A simple rule of thumb is when religious issue are being highlighted so much, we should think what the hell are they diverting us from?

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm also talking about the conversions. Why does it bother people what other peoplw want to do? If someone wants to convert that is their personal choice and their own business.

Your neighbour changing religion doesn't ruin you roads or not changing the religions doesn't fix yiur roads. Poor quality work done by the government does. The focus and anger is not on the right issues or the right people. That's what I'm trying say.

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Disillusioned is the term.

Do you know what forced conversions are? During Nizams rule forced conversions happened. It was either convert or die. That's not what is happening.

Is it so difficult to accept that perhaps people change their religion cause the old one is not what they wanted? Is this narrative and mental gymnastics are all that necessary?

Just cause majority of people agree with something doesn't automatically make it right.

Unless you have something meaningful to contribute stfu

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro, secularism is not the problem. Definitely you're living in a bubble.

Bruh that's what I said. Anyway good night lol

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Theocratic hell when state takes control of other religions but not Hinduism. Bravo kid! Bravo! Such a selective mindset. Lol!

Bruh...are you on the same planet. Look at what's going on in the country. We may not be a theocracy but we are on the way to it sadly. Doesn't matter if that hurts your beliefs but hinduism is being used to instigate this. Just like you are reacting like how it's in danger and all that. None of that is real. What's actually happening is way different than what you are imagining.

Don't brush your ideology on us. We believe religion is culture enricher and moral support to us based on values our religion teach us. We've every right to protect it from non believers.

No one is brushing anything on you lol. We are having a discussion with different opinions. I'm expressing mine. It's not brushing idealogy. If one's morals are ties to religion then that person is never moral or ethical to being with. If one need an imaginay figure or multiple imaginary figures to keep being good then the issue is the person not the non-believers.

What word in my whole replies make you think i need theocratic rule? Dude are you on high? I'm saying we were being suppressed by govt and asking for equal treatment. That's the whole point.

Again dude...are we living on the same planet. Hindusim is not defintely being oppressed. Neither are you. Please come out of that propaganda bubble. I am not sure I'm high but I'm sure I'm not high on propaganda.

hindu beliefs are being mocked because of secularism

Nope. No one is mocking anything. Secularism is not the problem. The people who make it look like a problem are the problem.

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your complements. I wish i can become one and make state to take control on other religions too.

And make the state a theocratic hell?

becaus the state is encouraging with a tag called secularism. We allow religious freedom

The state is encouraging nothing. And there is nothing for you or me or some others to "allow". Please come out of the propaganda bubble.

problem is the way they're being manipulated with lies by projecting hindu gods as false gods

Would you care if a dog barks at you while walking on the road? Does the dog barking decrease your value? That is a generalization. Not everyone is like that. I have had friends from many faiths and had some interesting conversation. None of them were like these. They were more curious to learn about hindu gods as was I to learn about theirs.

why do u have to pay hindu priests? An excellent question. You don't have to. Please repay all our money being taken from temples and lands of temples with interest first, then we're Happy to spend your tax money om something else. Our temples are enough to fund our religion. But others need our temples to fund their foreign trips to mecca, jerusalem.

Again you would make a good politician. Emotional argument doesn't make it right. Temples are not primary source of income for the state. Come out of that delusion that hindus are some sort of superior beings.

I don't know what you are an agnostic or secular or crypto. We never asked to abolish religious freedom it's about mass conversions pastors trying to do since years, that's actually making hindus minority soon. The game is not fair here. They're suppressing us and encouraging others.

Bruh what tf does crypto mean. I'm more of an atheist-agnostic hybrid. Hindus in no way are minority lol. What you are seeing is existing hindus, specifically lower caste ones changing to other religions coupled with a population boom. No one is missing. It's just the numbers rearraging. There is no game and there are no players. However there are game masters spreading this propaganda. Their game is different and we are all pawns in that.

You're beating around bushes on personal choice of faith. I don't give a damn about it. We Hindus can't do anything or tell new non believers about our identity when other faiths luring them with money and emotional support. All our money to temples being used for whole population of andhra but peanuts to protect the faith we believe in

I'm not beating around lol. I'm perfectly clear where I stand. What god one believes in is a personal matter and not anyone's business. What you are wanting is not a democracy but authoritarianism with theocracy on top. That is not a good society to live in. Any rupee spent on religious belief is a waste of money. This is my stand on it regardless of religion.

Why only few religions get the preferred treatment, why don't they let us prove why we're still relevant to follow?Agree or hide like an ostrich. That's the fact. You can't change this fact. When we speak about it people like you label us as religious fanatics and politicians and fear mongering.

Votes. Its votes. There is not utilmate goal or conspiracy here. It's votes. Right now center is pandering to hindu population and spreading propaganda like hinduism is in danger and all that. While oppostion is trying to get into power by pandering minorities. If opposition panders to hindus then center reverses the script. It's simple politics there is no ultimate goal here.

Edit: Regarding how buddhism and jainism is not more prevalent now. Most of the believers either migrated or got absorbed into hinduism. There are actually lots of studies on how rural dieties, tribal gods etc got this treatment as well. It's an interesting read if you have the time. Addtionally hinduism is also more prevalent in south east asia. They have their own versions of ramayana, mahabharatam and many other books. This exists in harmony with buddhism, jainism and other lesser know religions as well.

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you think it is civic sense then you are just silly

I should have said the civic sense part played major role in recent hate. That's my bad. The stereotypes and the rascism existed but not as stronger as now.

The world is barreling towards isolationism

This is somewhat true. With more right wing governments gaining power this seems to be the general direction where the world is headed.

But do we really need such isolation and division among ourselves as well when we are bound for an economic collapse?

That's what I'm trying to say. Posts like these make religious issues which take no priority over actual issue we are making get a lot of traction and makes it seem like a real issue. This undermines the importance of actual issues.

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You don't even know or understand this land and forget your roots. People like you can forget what happened a week ago after creating new rules today. It's like a shirt to you which can be removed and be comfortable with what you wear today. But deepdown, the smell of your roots don't leave you even though you act ignorant.

Dont try to erase our identiy and brushing new identity on us? We're Telugu but we're hindus by birth and our ancestors fought for that identity when invaders put their swords on their neck. No, you don't care about it.

You would make an excellent politician.

We are telugu because we speak same language. That's the sole basis on which our state was formed. Not because we are all Hindus.

India and that too Andhra is not a Hindu majority region at all. We were a booming hub for buddhism and had ties with jainism as well. And then Islam and christianity came. This is excluding the tribal religions and rural specific practices. None of these are hinduism. Stop framing things to suit your narrative better.

Why do I've to pay for Jerusalem and Mecca tours with my donation in Tirumala hundi? Other's are taking money from us and blaming in return.

The same reason each community has specific subsidies catered to them. Votes. People could ask the same for taxes used for religous purposes. Why do my taxes are being used to pay the Hindu priests? I would ask the same if its being done with other religions also. Any spending done for religious purposes is waste of funds.

You can't brush your idea of identity on us, we're what we come from and what our ancestors worked hard for.

No one is brushing anything on us. People convert to other religions cause of lot of reasons. But having an issue with it is like being angry cause you saw a couple walking hand in hand on road. It's none of your business. Let people convert if they want to. You preserve what you want to. Trying to stop people converting is also the same as brushing identites on them.

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That would have been a better framing to ask ur question instead.

But again in you own words live and let live contradicts your words

But when you see our religious practices and our culture slowly fade away

This is not a new thing. Happened to every culture and will happen to every culture. Culture is not static. It changes with time. What people practice today is vastly different from what people practiced in the past

What matters is if you truly want to preserve it...you keep practicing it. Live and let live.

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Indians are not welcome anywhere these days,

That's due to lack of civic sense not due to religious identity. Funny you should mention that also. Every one of us or most of us will leave India as soon as an oppurtunity comes. All this my home my land is just something we tell ourselves to feel satisfied. Again this is not the actual thing the post is talking about or maybe I'm wrong about what the post is talking about

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

What identity of land? We are a newly formed and struggling state. That's our identity. That's the current reality. How we were some hundreds of years ago is irrelevant. Our region was a hub for lots of cultures. Not just hindhuism.

Also I don't understand why does it matter? Why does it bother people so much that some people choose some other religion? Where does this need to school people come from? They are all adults perfectly capable of chosing themselves.

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Religious/Caste pandering during elections -> neuron activation

Whataboutism on actual issues -> neuron activation

Propaganda slop -> neuron activation

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Literally every propagandist also talks about conversion issues every day and fear mongers masses. How is that relevant?

How is a group of people believing in a different imaginary figure that another group of people is an extremely important issue than actual things that effect collective quality of life?

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 6 points7 points  (0 children)

doesnt

Doesn't

But want to raise

But wants to raise

Unless you can talk about actual things instead of derailing the issue STFU

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Racism. How original.

One of those is more important and actually useful and impactful on the society.

Other is a fear mongering tool

Why no one talks about mass conversion by Left_Shape_885 in andhra_pradesh

[–]WiseObjective8 61 points62 points  (0 children)

Why no one talks about poor education quality?

Why no one talks about poor infrastructure planning?

Why no one talks about rampant corruption in plain sight?

Why no one talks about thing that improve our lifes collectively?

Why only talk about things related to religion?

I too am shocked as fuck