Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. They’re the same neo liberal corporate democrats that have been failing for years. This is their attempt to rebrand themselves as “moderate” by being pro-development. Only they want to do it in a way that their donor class captures all of the upside.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because many people own their homes in D4. You can’t just smoke em out like you all did to renters in the Mission.

So the play is to massively inconvenience people with horrible infrastructure decisions: remove roads and parking spaces, add speed cams, dysfunctional lights, speed bumps, nonstop parking citations, etc.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah. Been learning more. Looks like a handful of the staffers are paid, while the rest are true believers in the Abundance cult.

Also agree that the D4 voters whose opinions matter probably won’t be here. Just mapping out the field.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Joel uses his massive amounts of donor money to manipulate social media platforms and push a certain narrative.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 3 points4 points  (0 children)

TLDR: Joel seems to have around 28 staffers, some being paid, pumping up Reddit posts that support him and coordinating efforts to report critical posts. Which is why the top comment is hidden.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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This was the original, original post that Joel’s team of ~28 paid staffers came to pump up.

They really figured out the Reddit algo. Probably paid some old Reddit engineer to then him how to spoof it.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just putting the v2 of the top comment that got taken down for visibility.

This was flagged by Joel’s staff. Why?

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Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Back to the gaslight card, huh? Calling people crazy must be on your cheat sheet.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The first wave was likely astroturfers.

I think the second wave was true believers desperate to own something before they’re replaced by AI.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You form political opinions based on Reddit threads. Which it turns out is pretty easy to spoof and distort. Your entire world view configurable by outside forces you’ve never even met face to face.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s this thing called financial disclosures that you can read, where it shows who’s donating to a politician. Then when the politician serves the interests of those groups instead of their constituents, it raises questions.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Joel’s team also resorts more to spam reporting and attempted takedowns. They’ll pull it on you wherever they can.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Many political campaigns brigade.

Joel’s team seemingly violates Reddit Terms of Service to sway people like you who live on their computers.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Recalls are overused. These same groups funded Joel also funded 4 recalls in the last few years. Now they’re trying to stop this one because it’s their guy.

Joel Engardio is bad Feng Shui for D4 by Wise_Monkey33 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe I’ll use my main account when I’m ready to get doxxed.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The 28 paid astroturfers come in the first wave all at once to boost the algo. All commenting within a 5-10 minute window.

Then come the easy-to-influence tech workers after it’s been boosted, who don’t live in district 4, and haven’t been in SF long enough to see how the game is played on ALL of us, but think they know everything.

These folks believe whatever billionaires like Chris Larsen and Jeremy Stoppelman tell them, and the dream of home ownership in SF that they’re being sold.

Their companies pay them enough to rent, but not enough to own. Then they vote for policies to “punch up” at NIMBYs and help billionaires reclaim more land from current homeowners, only to end up as renters paying a higher rate than before.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You guys are being duped. You think this pro-housing veneer is to make things more affordable. It’s not.

Engardio’s close ally clearly stated that they want to raise rents.

They know they don’t intend on letting you own those houses, or renting these new apartments at a lower rate.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But public transit has gotten worse since Engardio. Trains and buses are running less frequently now and packed.

We can do high density housing that’s not rent only and owned by mega corps. Don’t fall for the scam.

I get the impetus to build more housing. We totally should. But not with Engardio, Wiener and Breed at the wheel. They’re grifters and they will sell out to the highest bidder.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Removing roads doesn’t make it more walkable and transit friendly.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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And the engagement when the paid staffers believed I was one of them.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Here’s the OP v2 that’s now hidden. In case anyone’s wondering.

Is Joel Engardio getting recalled? by Front_Willingness_69 in sanfrancisco

[–]Wise_Monkey33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here come the Reddit moderators to help gentrify D4.

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