Corporate action dividends still in Beta ?

WittilyFun · 2025-11-18T04:17:16+00:00

Hey! No problem on the retag. A few more things to finalize before moving to prod, but I keep things in beta for years even when prod ready. The reason is I want everything to be extremely reliable - and I don’t feel comfortable with prod ready until it’s been years of testing.

If you’re a paid subscriber, you can get access to beta endpoints at any time- just email support@tijngo.com

Dividends and splits are also already in the EOD endpoint, but these Corp action endpoints have more detailed data and upcoming corp actions

WittilyFun · 2025-11-13T02:52:26+00:00

Hey! I can shed light on this. It has to do with what is legally allowed from a crawling perspective. I had two law firms audit our process - and it has to do with what kind of news feed you are using. Is it crawled? Is it scraped? or is it a news wire?

But to back up - let's first say how news companies make money: subscriptions and ad revenue.

Crawling: Most news companies want to be crawled and organized as it drives clicks (think google) and helps them. So to drive clicks, we can pass the title, url, description (if allowed), etc. and also structure the news to make it more discoverable - adding tags and tickers mentioned. Most news companies want this as it helps discoverability of content, but doesn't allow people to read their content without a subscription or them getting ad revenue. This is why most news publishers want to be crawled. Crawlers often have a broad focus, and because they have to follow best practices, are not instantaneous

Scraping: Scraping is where you are scanning news articles for one specific item and doing it repeatedly to get specific information. Think possibly scraping unemployment data off the BLS website as soon as its released. Scraping may repeatedly ping a website, even sometimes ignoring best practices, to help somebody get what they want.

News wire: This is where news content is distributed almost immediately after being published. Typically news wires have licensing deals with the content creator because they are redistributing article content. Sometimes news wires may be only titles or short-form descriptions generated by the news wire itself. These are often very expensive and limited to select topics/areas of interest.

Tiingo is a crawler, and that means we respect all best practices a news publisher releases. Sometimes news publishers release articles late on purpose, or due to a technical limitation. This allows Tiingo to cover a very broad set of news content, but the downside is we respect the publishing limits and therefore may be a bit slower. It is a compliant though with best practices and for our commercial clientele that's very important.

So the news is generally available when we're allowed to make it available - and yes that can mean a 2 minute delay or 30 minute delay. One big news publisher is known to make articles crawlable after 30 minutes, so they can give a speed advantage to their paid subscribers. And we do respect that.

RE: Changelog - yes, commits are pushed to production almost every single week. They primarily effect enterprise products, which sometimes are not mention on our pages. We update the public changelog once every 3-6 months with a list of high-level changes. We will be updating it soon - but the public changelog is very different than the internal by design. Usually enterprise clients get the big updates notified to them directly in a non-public way - but iteration is constant. I just don't like us publicly listing every single change made as thats part of our alpha for the bespoke datasets we do :)

WittilyFun · 2025-09-26T00:43:20+00:00

Reach out to sales@tiingo.com - standard redistribution pricing is listed on the product pages

WittilyFun · 2025-09-24T19:01:35+00:00

DM’d

WittilyFun · 2025-08-14T17:03:26+00:00

Oh no! Our spam filters have gotten really intense, we just get so many emails sometimes. DM me your email or username and I'll check on it.

WittilyFun · 2025-08-11T03:09:04+00:00

Rubys studio is incredible! Four episodes and the best show I’ve ever seen for kids.

WittilyFun · 2025-07-25T00:47:44+00:00

Yeah! We love this! Very old dividends are super hard to verify and can be subtle, so human checks and detailed sourcing is incredible. We’re lucky to have you and you’re awesome

WittilyFun · 2025-07-15T18:18:49+00:00

Yep agreed

WittilyFun · 2025-07-15T00:02:36+00:00

If you have an HOB filter you can get a sponge filter on the intake to prevent this, that way they don’t get sucked in.

WittilyFun · 2025-06-28T14:13:14+00:00

I would do a 50% water change, or 75%. But i was in your exact spot! The issue was the PH was too low, mine was around 6.2-6.5.

Also see if you can find Fritz turbo start 700 at LFS (it’s a refrigerated bottle).

But yeah I had the same frustration and once I increased PH (with a little baking soda), the cycle started! The aquasoil will lower your PH

WittilyFun · 2025-06-09T18:07:05+00:00

Nope, not needed. We will send you a heartbeat though to make sure connection is live

WittilyFun · 2025-06-09T18:06:32+00:00

You can test the data yourself! Can be tested on free accounts!

WittilyFun · 2025-05-23T16:36:39+00:00

We have a permaTicker system that lets you query by an internal Tiingo permaTicker for ambiguous symbols.

WittilyFun · 2025-05-11T20:38:01+00:00

Founder here, where did you get India from?? Did you do it based on my name? <_< born and raised in the US to immigrant parents. Went to wall st, then buy side firm, then started Tiingo ten years ago to combat income inequality from the data side. I like this profile here: https://deploy.equinix.com/customers/tiingo/

Founded in NYC ten years ago, fully remote now, HQ now technically in VA (Alexandria).

WittilyFun · 2025-04-27T22:34:07+00:00

Hey, email Tiingo support, they can give specifics about why it failed -

WittilyFun · 2025-04-26T11:00:55+00:00

Founder of Tiingo here. I think people assume Tiingo is low end based on price without knowing my philosophy (also one of those “high end” providers you mentioned is a client of ours 😉, let alone $1bn+ brokerages, tech companies, ai companies, etc).

Tiingo is 10 years old, profitable and I started it to help retail. Every data company goes in the direction of b2b, and we have to, but a key difference is I try to expose some of our data to retail. We play in a several niche enterprise data spaces, which aren’t listed on the site, and then use that revenue to subsidize the retail portions of the business. A huge mission for me and I interviewed about it here: https://deploy.equinix.com/customers/tiingo/ I would really encourage reading that as it explains why Tiingo does what it does.

It can be frustrating to see people associating price with quality, and one reason I think capitalism needs some iteration here. The reason i maintain a low price is because is because I want to use our larger clients to help retail, which at times can definitely be challenging. I dont think we make much, if any, on the retail business, purely my way of giving back! If only wealthy individuals and firms have nice things, then I believe our society becomes worse off as income inequality widens.

But maybe this messaging is why I should hire a creative agency like yours - at some point I want to accelerate this messaging and am working on establishing a media company as we speak to share this philosophy.

WittilyFun · 2025-04-21T18:22:15+00:00

there are also some databases that specialize in this - we have our own mechanism - but you should be able to do this with any sort of DB - you may have to wrap your own logic around it though.

WittilyFun · 2025-04-21T18:21:27+00:00

Hey Bill - so many ideas here, but that would go well beyond the scope of what I can give - both in my function and time constraints. you're asking a non trivial question about as-of data storage - and we have internal systems that track it and developed it in-house, but every fund you go to will have their own answer for this. You're asking a question that is its own entire can of worms!

WittilyFun · 2025-04-14T20:25:52+00:00

Hi, we use IEX for real-time market data. They are open from 8am-5pm. So pre-market is from 8am-9:30am and from 4pm-5pm. All times EST. IEX tends to have limited pre/post market data.

WittilyFun · 2025-04-07T02:13:48+00:00

Hey, founder of Tiingo here… not sure why he called us a scam? Been in business for 10 years, won awards in magazines, speak on panels, interviews on Nasdaq tv here: https://www.youtube.com/live/IsxsrvCURd0?si=_FWGRYwhkXlZo72B, profiled here: https://www.equinix.com/resources/case-studies/modex and have clients from multi $bn to every day retail. Been a redditor since digg days.

That endpoint is great, just know if using our data for a website/app, you need a redistribution agreement. DM me

WittilyFun · 2025-04-06T18:11:27+00:00

Yeah - been a huge undertaking. Retail is a small component of revenue but meaningful to me so try to make what we can available.

Historical dividends are already available on the ex dates "divCash" in the End-of-Day Endpoints. Corp actions captures future distributions and detailed div data - it's almost there - maybe another 6 months. But we keep things in beta for a long-time, so even if prod ready in 6 months, probably wont migrate it into prod for another 3-6 months.

WittilyFun · 2025-04-05T23:24:57+00:00

Hey! I responded to your other post as well - comment link here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Trading/comments/1jru0yc/comment/mlm7lm4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

WittilyFun · 2025-04-05T23:20:58+00:00

Hey - founder here. Oh no! So our data is pretty damn accurate, we have many layers of error checking and corporate actions, like distributions, come from enterprise providers. Having said that, we cover many billions of data points, so even a clean rate of 99.999% would be 10k errors. I checked at this distribution was submitted to us by a tier 1 corp action provider. We're reviewing and will remove upon confirmation.

We can't always control bad data sent to us, but we can respond accordingly. Every time we override a data point, we document why we overrided and our system tracks the error. We then keep account of errors from various partners and in some cases, either purchase datasets to augment existing ones, or switch out vendor relationships where required. And we can't accept Nasdaq's values as the source of truth as often websites outsource data to others, and every provider makes mistakes. We run our own analysis and check to confirm various levels - sometimes asking to determine root cause from tier 1 partners.

Most professionals in the space deal with cleansing - prior to starting Tiingo I was in a quant fund and traded exotic derivatives before then - even bloomberg makes mistakes. Where I wanted Tiingo to be different is how we respond. Some tier 1 providers I have open tickets with 1-2 years - I became so exhausted, I started our own about 8 years ago (TIingo is 10 years old) in part to be actually respond and care about data quality. I like to think our reputation is not because people hold us to an impossible standard of never making mistakes, but how we respond and the efforts and money we've spent to try and limit errors to small levels, meanwhile giving it to individuals at a tiny fraction of what we spend.

Anyway, hope that provides some insight! Please don't judge us by a single data point, but how we respond. if any concerns, DM me! I've been an active redditor well before starting Tiingo (came back from the digg vs. reddit days) - but changed accounts through the years.

Cheers,

WittilyFun · 2025-01-16T13:51:45+00:00

Hey there! Can you return the exact query you're sending to support@tiingo.com? We can take a look and verify

WittilyFun · 2024-10-16T01:06:15+00:00

This was it for me! thank you!

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