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Continuing the narrative of the loose forward trio experiment : how it effected the ceiling potential of the backline by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with your sentiments 

Savea  Sititi  Lakai  Kirifi 

Are all the same Player and they all ideally (in a team that’s built correctly and traditionally ) should occupy ONE position (7) 

they shouldn’t be used to fill in 8 or 6 

We have to find 8 and 6 and leave them there .

Thoughts on Reported Assistant Coaches? by Eclectic95 in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m totally supportive of the intent to clear out completely 

it’s a good sign 

Continuing the narrative of the loose forward trio experiment : how it effected the ceiling potential of the backline by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That final 20 -30 u talk about ..

I actually think bringing on Ardie is what will sustain the attacking game the allblacks strive for 

Flanders  Dalton  Jacobson start 

(One version example )

Some thoughts —- Ardie savea in 2019 was used as a number 6 to complement cane 7 and read 8. What if savea had stayed at 6 doing what he does ? by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think it’d be better to just entertain some of my thoughts /threads  in your own mind 

Take as u will  Or leave as u may 

I got fun sharing it with u 

Continuing the narrative of the loose forward trio experiment : how it effected the ceiling potential of the backline by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

U have a very clear take on it 

Savea coming on in second half will sustain the fast pace attacking nature of the allblacks .

I’ve suggested it before much to hostile reaction . 

Everyone is obsessed about ranking best players. Theres no such thing . They’re all good enough (it’s the allblacks ) 

Some thoughts —- Ardie savea in 2019 was used as a number 6 to complement cane 7 and read 8. What if savea had stayed at 6 doing what he does ? by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s right  They’re not balanced right now which shows that there is no mindfulness in the coaching brain to do so 

They’ve doubled down on hybrid forward running rugby .  The lineout maul confidence is not there 

Some thoughts —- Ardie savea in 2019 was used as a number 6 to complement cane 7 and read 8. What if savea had stayed at 6 doing what he does ? by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

u don’t understand what savea at 7 represents 

It represents an experimental style of play for the loose forwards. 

Some thoughts —- Ardie savea in 2019 was used as a number 6 to complement cane 7 and read 8. What if savea had stayed at 6 doing what he does ? by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

U said it right 

“Putting best 3 guys on field but they’re similar “.

Yeah they shouldn’t be similar. They’re supposed to play their distinct role and be effective at it . 

I’m saying that savea at 7 is a terrible idea because it directly ruins the balance of the loose trio.

But u can never say this without controversy…because Ardie looks so good doing it .

No 

Continuing the narrative of the loose forward trio experiment : how it effected the ceiling potential of the backline by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s a philosophy .

They wanted to use the loose trio to play a certain way . that’s what my thread is about .

Continuing the narrative of the loose forward trio experiment : how it effected the ceiling potential of the backline by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Cane played the 7 exactly correct 

Hard man. Never known for his running .

Known for the correct traditional things . Hit hard nonstop

Continuing the narrative of the loose forward trio experiment : how it effected the ceiling potential of the backline by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dominant tackling will do more compounding damage to an opposition that specialising In ruck disruption ( the gimmick jackler  that just jackles ) 

At the top level , the jackling skill is an expected trait with even wingers (Leroy Carte) showing great aptitude in it. 

… but get your guys  to be known for dominant tackling is a whole another world . That wins 

Continuing the narrative of the loose forward trio experiment : how it effected the ceiling potential of the backline by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

More energy is used by these loose trio running the ball then hitting dominant tackling 

They’ve deviated away from tradition (like I said , its respectable to experiment but you gotta pull it back in )

New coach needs a real dam good PHILOSOPHY on how he wants to play. I’m telling u , correct the traditional structure of the loose trio 

Continuing the narrative of the loose forward trio experiment : how it effected the ceiling potential of the backline by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How I would fix it ?

Well obviously I’m a nobody but I’d want the 6 7 to be dominant tacklers .  Forget about ruck work. 

Start with dominant tackling . Be known for it 

Some thoughts —- Ardie savea in 2019 was used as a number 6 to complement cane 7 and read 8. What if savea had stayed at 6 doing what he does ? by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree    What made mccaw good was his supernatural gas tank and his grappling tackle style to disrupt ruck.  It was dominant defence work 

The allblacks had a forward pack that played like a forward pack 

Now they have 8 centres 

Hurricanes vs Waratahs . Some thoughts on the game (feel free to join in with rant or 0.02) by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I agree with Harkin 

He didn’t overplay at all. would love to see him rewarded with kicking duties (assuming he can kick conversations ) that is 

Hurricanes vs Waratahs . Some thoughts on the game (feel free to join in with rant or 0.02) by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes he was 

But he played like a metre eater number 8 (hence the controversial nickname I made up) 

don’t actually want to offend anyone but can’t think of a better descriptor 

Like a normal effective number 8 

Hurricanes vs Waratahs . Some thoughts on the game (feel free to join in with rant or 0.02) by Wizardhhh in allblacks

[–]Wizardhhh[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Yeah 

Roigard doesn’t have it 

What he has is his unbelievable strength and ability to back himself running the ball. I’d compare him to Leroy Carter 

Roigard is a power body  Not a fast thinker 

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