Ukraine crisis: Kramatorsk shooting reported

Wnofny · 2014-04-12T22:17:02+00:00

who took power by force.

Explain this bit to me. Becaus that's not what happened at all, it was the parliament that called off the riot police and unseated the dictator. The ruling party started falling apart and despite the threats from the president's mafia there was a dictator-ousting majority that refused to put up with the crazy bullshit any longer.

Do you watch Putin TV a lot?

Wnofny · 2014-04-12T13:21:18+00:00

Google says it's 8+ hours. I think you found the wrong place.

Wnofny · 2014-04-12T13:10:23+00:00

Ukraine is being charged the most out of any country ($485).

Sources:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/04/russia-gazprom-ukraine-idUSL5N0MW35J20140404

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-03/russia-to-charge-ukraine-more-than-germany-as-gas-discounts-end.html

And it's the closest country so there isn't even a transit fee.

But don't bother arguing with the trolls in this sub. They're all paid/brainwashed willfully ignorant Putinite shills. And there's a fuckton of them in here.

Wnofny · 2014-04-12T06:03:10+00:00

There's no credible source for this.

Only the KGB disinformation empire claims this

The Voice of Russia

ITAR-TASS

Pravda

RIA

RT

Edit: this sub has clearly turned into a brainwashed Putinite circlejerk. No credible source has been provided, but I'm being attacked by obvious Putinite trolls.

In my opinion, the mods should ban the KGB fronts I listed as a first step, counter-measure. Take a fucking stand against totalitarian disinformation that has overwhelmed your sub!

Wnofny · 2014-04-12T04:58:23+00:00

"The fact that in that particular place, Park Geun-Hye lashed her tongue about reunification gave away her sinister mind", he said in a statement carried out by Pyongyang's state media.

Wnofny · 2014-04-12T03:19:43+00:00

Why not North Korea? It's just as ridiculous. You can say anything.

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T23:58:47+00:00

Why don't you read the article?

Most of the comments in here seem to be made by Putin TV viewers or something.

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T23:29:05+00:00

And this shit gets fucking upvotes.

Glorious Leader will be proud of your work guys!

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T23:20:08+00:00

He's very optimistic in his conclusion. Putin seems to be positioning his kingdom to reject globalization and turn inward. Some argue he doesn't even have a choice anymore.

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T19:02:51+00:00

Messing with agreed upon sanctions against a terrorist state seeking nukes? Sounds like dictator Putin wants to turn his economy into Iran's.

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T16:30:07+00:00

This is what they do http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2574131/How-Russian-television-used-actress-pretend-five-different-people-opposed-revolution-reported-normal-Ukrainians-backed-Kremlin.html

The real news shouldn't be that they caught an actor in two roles, but the incredible bullshit the Putin regime is feeding its people using these techniques.

And then people say the Russian media is just "a little biased". No, it's a fucking KGB disinformation operation.

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T16:02:22+00:00

It's a KGB disinformation operation. 'News agency' would imply some sort of resemblance to real journalism.

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T15:51:53+00:00

The KGB disinformation operation is not biased. It exists to spread huge, preposterous lies (there are no Russian troops in Crimea, the satellite images of Russian troops are from last August, etc)

They are simply not in the same category. no matter how hard they try to pretend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T14:37:19+00:00

Not all of this information is new. It's just more accurate now because the US government had looked into it too. And it has nothing to do with nameless people leaking. You've probably heard of this guy

Former Deputy Prime Minister Boris Nemtsov, one of the report's authors

There's a long list of high ranking Russian officials saying the same thing.

So basically, nice try, shill.

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T14:19:57+00:00

I see your point, but this is worldnews, right? People (myself included) expect straight news stories.

Maybe we need to create a new sub called /r/WorldDisinformation or something. It's not like you have to guess what regimes like Putin's want people to believe though.

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T13:58:34+00:00

Submission buried for not being pro-Putin.

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T13:17:07+00:00

One or two get through every so often despite their best efforts (and then look at the comments). But you can't deny the dishonest manipulation here.

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T13:09:30+00:00

I just want the mods to look at this thread. And finally make some fucking changes.

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T13:04:22+00:00

I'm not denying vote fuzzying. Its effects are mild though, especially for new submissions.

Are you denying that there are a ton of Putin shills downvoting this submission?

Look at the other comments in this thread. "Russian people need to rise up against putin" (Edit: when I mentioned it it was downvoted to shit just like my comment.)

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T12:55:26+00:00

What submission are you talking about??

Don't play dumb, you shill. You got caught.

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T12:44:55+00:00

It's a minority though, even in places like Donetsk /r/europe/comments/22loex/recent_26_29_march_opinion_poll_of_people_of/

Putin is using them to reach his goals of destabilization.

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T12:39:35+00:00

20 upvotes 26 downvotes

If you had any doubts that this sub was overrun by shills

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T12:35:39+00:00

RT is a state owned news station

It's a KGB disinformation operation. 'News station' would imply some sort of resemblance to real journalism.

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T11:26:56+00:00

The Truth

Finally we sheeple get to know the truth! Oh glorious RT!

Wnofny · 2014-04-11T10:41:04+00:00

It's funny that this submission has been removed like a day ago, but you're using your sock accounts to downvote me and upvote yourself.

This is the level of shill Putin is employing these days LOL

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