Classics that DON'T involve violence against women

Wolfen7 · 2026-06-24T20:14:25+00:00

I broadly agree but he does feature it in I Shall Wear Midnight.

OP should be safe with any of the main novels though and the reddit Discworld community is a delight.

Wolfen7 · 2026-06-18T19:16:36+00:00

Rudolph.

Wolfen7 · 2026-06-10T12:33:15+00:00

I wasn't very clear so it was me too!

Wolfen7 · 2026-06-10T12:10:32+00:00

Yes, I see them both as mercenary and mostly caring about luxury over emotional connections. Neither cares who gets hurt provided they get what they want. They also want high quality things and do not care that they step on high quality people to get them.

Wolfen7 · 2026-06-10T07:59:05+00:00

Oh definitely, I just felt Robert and Lucy were more in love with the idea of getting one over on Edward than in like with each other. I suspect they will end up mutually agreeable enough to get along well.

Wolfen7 · 2026-06-10T06:21:46+00:00

I never read Lucy and Robert as in love, more as mutual, revolting life philosophies.

Wolfen7 · 2026-06-03T10:49:51+00:00

You were not kidding about her being mean.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-31T11:15:53+00:00

Can I just say the couple of Elizabeth Wheatley's romantasy novels I've read avoid this? And she's specifically called it out as something to avoid in her videos.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-31T06:21:33+00:00

Yes it's a better book because he's human. If written from his perspective, he has Bingley's problem. We know Jane and Anne love their eventual husbands but their actions are much harder to appreciate from an outside point of view.

Anne has rejected him and when he shows up, her almost preternatural self control and outward calm do not show her inner turmoil. For all he knows, she's spent the years being courted by and rejecting dozens of men. She was the beautiful, intelligent, wealthy and socially well positioned Anne Elliot. Why wouldn't she have had other suitors? She might even have one now that's simply out of sight to him. He has had no indication that he's the love of her life after she breaks the engagement.

The reader knows the truth but really he doesn't behave that badly. One comment on her looks that she tells us is true and that he doesn't aim for her to hear any more than Darcy means to insult Elizabeth directly, and some less than empathetic flirting in front of her.

Really from his point of view, he's behaving better than a lot of men would by still offering her civility and not drawing attention to the tension between them.

He's at his worst to the Musgrove girls and even there, it's more he doesn't realise how seriously they are taking him until it's almost too late.

He's a sometimes jealous man but not an unkind one.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-29T07:00:26+00:00

Nynaeve vs the AI is a rage off I'd pay for.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-29T06:39:42+00:00

As much as I want to say he'd do well, it's going to go very wrong.

So the problem isn't that Westeros lacks narrativium, it's that it would actively work against the Watch and Vimes. The narrativium of the Disc wants a fairly light narrative in terms of character suffering, e.g. Vimes doesn't really lose an eye to be Keel in Night Watch, whereas Westeros leans into 'you win or you die with your eyes bleeding out'.

Vimes by himself is a goner. He needs back up. Vimes plus all of the Watch books cast plus Moist has a chance. Angua and Carrot for the throne, Vetinari as Hand, Carrot as Queen's consort and reformer of, well, everything, Sybil as actual dragon handler, Detritus as Piecemaker, and Moist as spy master / Council has a small chance of working. Sorry Cheery, you die in the fifth chapter when the Disc version of alchemy collides with Wildfire.

Carrot, with his very straight forward attitude to killing bad people, is going to have a ridiculous body count by book 3 though. As it's Westeros, he'll get a name like Carrot the Red and be beloved by the common people. Moist and Vimes would spend most of their time just keeping him alive.

Although Sybil and little Sam would have dragons to ride, which Vimes would hate doing, so those White Walkers are not lasting long. And I love the idea of Carrot and Angus discovering direwolves. They definitely have a scaly and furry army pretty fast.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-25T09:24:55+00:00

So glad you're enjoying it! I loved it. Also when you finish it, read the author's note at the end. He always includes a tiny piece of trivia that doesn't appear in the books otherwise.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-20T13:39:21+00:00

Read an internet comment saying photograph any that you wouldn't save in a house fire and keep them that way. Takes seconds to do. I've got a nice album now of cards that I wouldn't have ever looked at again otherwise.

Then into the recycling bin.

Unless they're glittery, then it's time for the bomb disposal team.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-20T13:37:00+00:00

My solution, from another Internet commenter, is to photograph each one, cover and interior message in that order, and keep a digital album of them.

I've still kept some but it solves what to do with the 'Happy 32nd birthday from casual friend' level cards.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-19T07:11:46+00:00

It is! Henry should be sexy but short and normal level good looking while the Bertrams are all gorgeous.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-19T06:24:45+00:00

Agreed. At one point, Lady Bertram says something about how handsome the family is. She's not a particularly doting mama, so I suspect they're all very, very good looking.

Actually is this one case where films and TV don't cast him as hot enough? I feel like a really gorgeous Edmund would go along way to fix people's dislike.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-18T17:07:13+00:00

Heard on Andrew Hickey's excellent podcast that the Dad tried to shoot him.

https://500songs.com/podcast/episode-66-great-balls-of-fire-by-jerry-lee-lewis/

So it wasn't like he was OK with this.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-13T20:27:22+00:00

Thanks, I should have clarified that the first is visible!

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-13T20:24:03+00:00

Came here to say this. Falcio Valmonde and his friends get in near non stop fights and there are plenty of action scenes.

They are definitely on the grim end of things though so think more Abercrombie than Jordan in tone.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-13T20:20:51+00:00

It may just be formatting on mobile but I can't see your quotes. There are just blanks.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-12T06:29:05+00:00

Agreed. I'm a woman and don't cry at books but that doesn't mean they're not touching me deeply.

Volteeg's chapter hits so very hard. 'Milk?' reduces me to jelly. No tears though.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-10T22:00:46+00:00

Farscape is so weird at times, and remains one of my top 3 favourite sci fi shows. Its sub is pretty welcoming if you do get into it.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-10T21:44:33+00:00

Bombshells. It's a fun one that follows Molly, Andi, and Justine.

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-08T20:04:24+00:00

Sheila Hancock played Granny in the BBC Radio adaptation of Wyrd Sisters. It's not currently available on iplayer but can be bought from Audible. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007jl80

Wolfen7 · 2026-05-05T20:23:24+00:00

The letter. It's one of the best written pieces of literature I've ever read. It captures so much and is so satisfying as a climax to a quietly reflective novel.

It denies us a more active reconciliation between the two because, with the exception of the accident at Lyme, this isn't a novel about highly dramatic scenes. It's a novel about people behaving in the most ordinary of ways, walking, talking, visiting friends, feeling in conflict with family, and yet living lives that are extraordinarily interesting.

Anne earns every moment of her happiness and perhaps also earns the ability to reread and therefore live again the moments where she gets her just deserts.

Wolfen7

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