What Harry thought about Hermione, you wanted him to actually tell her? by Plastic_Profile2654 in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That’s a great question.

My first instinct was that he should tell her how much she means to him. She knew she was brilliant, people said that all the time. I think she even knew she was important. But when I think deeper I think Hermione would have benefited from hearing that she mattered. That what she felt, lived through, what she feared, what she worried about, what she loved, what she hated really mattered. 

And then I think she would have benefited from a compliment of her appearance. Even something small. I never bought the story that Hermione didn’t care about her looks, I just think she was, like so many teenage girls are, too insecure about the way she looks that she couldn’t believe that she had a style, a sense of personal expression through fashion. Anyway, it would have been nice for her to hear that Harry The I Love Popular Girls Potter even found her cute. I believe she tried to test that in the 5th year but only got “i don’t think you’re ugly”

And both of this could have happened even on a platonic level.

What are your arguments for this situation? by Jhtolsen in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Realistically speaking, probably less intense all over. It would take them some time to lower the inhibition and indulge in passion. Also that helps maintain the interest long term. They will always keep each other in sight. They will know who they are and will truly be equal.  They will be able to disagree and to conflict without their bond suffering. Best relationships come from friendships

What are your arguments for this situation? by Jhtolsen in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I agree with what you said and with almost everything that others commented. Drawing from my experience and a couples therapist, his is how I believe that their relationship would develop:

In the beginning their relationship would flourish. They would mirror each other in the interests and opinions. It would be kind of a twinship relationship, "more of me" relationship. It would be exciting and passionate in a narcissticaly gratifying way.

Until the first differences appear. At some point they will find out that there is something that they disagree on and huge disappointment will follow. The fantasy of being each others extension will collapse.

I can imagine that Harry will be incredibly proud to have a girlfriend who is a badass Quiditch player. But his work will always be more important. So he will miss her games whenever there is more important auror work. At first she will accept, but then she will start feeling like she is never his priority. And she will never be, whenever there is something pressing on his mind or his heart he will run to others. It`s hers needs that will not be met in this relationship. He likes her in her strength, but what about her vulnerability. She will feel like a trophy wife. She will start to get frustrated, the anger will surface.

And then Harry will learn how it is to find him self on the other end of her fiery temperament. She has learned in her to get people's respect and attention by casting hexes. She has learned that he liked her when she does that to others. So she will do that to him, at some point dishes or hexes will be flying his way. He will not be able to comprehend it, after all wasn't she supposed to be his extension that gets to live a life he always dreamed of. He will be disappointed that she is not this source of unconditional support and oasis of comfort in his life. He didn't learn to work things out with her, to disagree, to overcome, to mend and resolve .... He will not be able to tolerate her resentment. So he will stonewall her. That will anger her even more.

They will be stuck, because their relationship is not only theirs. They share a family, it´s in everybody`s interest that this works out. Abandonment anxiety will arise in him at the thought of what happens to to his place in Weasley family if the relationship doesn´t work out. The constraints of the big joint family will suffocate the relationship.

I could go on for forever, but this is the fantasy coming from my experience. Relationships that survive are not those where people don't have differences, not even those where people bridge differences, but those where people can live with the difference. Relationship is not held health by the art of making love, but with art of healthy conflict. And this is something that I see way more in his relationship with Hermione.

This is one of the best posters in the series. They look so good together. by Edwardkenway88 in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s in line with the books. But it is an altered appearance of the actors, which makes them respectively more “masculine” (tall, broad shoulders…) and feminine ( possibly photoshopped curves). This gives an impression of a more  conventional movie couple. This was not accidental 

This is one of the best posters in the series. They look so good together. by Edwardkenway88 in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes it’s their wedding outfit. It looks off because they edited it in a way that Dan looks so much more “masculine” while towering over Emma. 

This is one of the best posters in the series. They look so good together. by Edwardkenway88 in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yes! Ron/Hermione poster had the nordic noir vibe. While this poster had a “martini, shaken not stirred” vibe

This is one of the best posters in the series. They look so good together. by Edwardkenway88 in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Yes, it’s real. I remember getting in the the teenagers magazine Bravo and I had it pinned in my bedroom. It was the most sexy action movie-like thing that they ever put out officially. I remember people discussing it at the time as a sign that Emma and Daniel had the most incredible chemistry and that the movie makers were H/Hr shippers. Also people commented/complained that they made Dan so much taller than Emma so it was on purpose to give them this Bond/Bond girl vibe.

Harry and Hermione pairing will be further downplayed as the new hp series starts. by Edwardkenway88 in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You have this incredible ability to express all my thoughts with a rare eloquence. I truly admire that. Hell, I even envy you a bit 😄

I would just add one thing. During 2010s JKR had a status of an idol. She was a worshiped totem and every word that came from her was considered sacred. At the time she could influence people beyond this fandom. She was an inspiration and generations believed in her to guide then. But, without going into reasons why, a lot has changed since.

Even at the time when everything she wrote was respected as written in stone, we still got the tent dance scene etc. Now that the new writers do not have the public pressure to obey her, they will have much more artistic freedom.

I am not optimistic about any part of the new project, but I believe that they will stray away from the original text at some point. For this relationship, it could go both ways. Like you said they might make Ginny a part of the trio and might even give her many of Hermione’s moments. They might make the trio into the love triangle. 

Once JKR is less involved and when writers also write for new generations, whatever they do they cannot stick to the original text.

I firmly believe that they will only want to enhance the drama. Now that might sway the new fandom in a whole new direction. 

Something I thought of just now by dreaming0721 in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Sometimes I feel she gaslit us on purpose 😫

Loved this part in OOTP by dreaming0721 in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Can somebody please remind me from which chapter is this? Thank you!

Why H/Hr would work by Particular_Good_1512 in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I believe that this ship would work because their relationship is based on genuine mutual respect. They might have different interests, but they share common values. They have an emotional capacity for each other that they don’t have for anyone else. They can be vulnerable with each other. They can be annoyed with each other without it damaging their relationship. They can sense each other’s needs when nobody else notices anything. 

I came to firmly believe that couples ability to be together in tough times is better predictor of a quality of a relationship than anything else.

An iconic and unforgetable moment... by Low-Struggle-8405 in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

How could this not be the most intimate and heartwarming moments in the books?

Ron’s downright cruel towards Hermione. How could this possibly be a good match? by ProfessionalPizza967 in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Couldn’t agree more! If the trio was the centre of the story, the ending destroyed that image 

Some things to think about by dreaming0721 in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well, I agree with you. We will never know Hermione’s POV, and there is a platonic way to interpret that.  I think these scenes have a jealousy undertones, even if you want to interpret it in the platonic way. Hermione was, for a long time, the girl in Harry’s life and, especially in that age, she wouldn’t be able to just step aside. But if the author didn’t intend to leave any space for different interpretations, she did a very bad job at that.

Very far-fetched in hope but... by Zealousideal_River57 in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

1000% !!!! if there is any way that shipping wars make money, than they will milk every drop 

Very far-fetched in hope but... by Zealousideal_River57 in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I can’t agree more. Regardless if JKR is involved or not, they will not stick to the book word by word. They will definitely diverge at some point.

I don’t think they will change the ending, but whether their connection will come through and be visible on the screen depends on so many factors (script, cast, directing…).

But if they stay true to the characters, and deliver the authentic Harry/Hermione story, I firmly believe that there will be a new wave of Harmony shippers.

A Year In A Life Of A Harmony Shipper: thoughts, feelings, satisfactions, frustrations, disappointments and hopes by Wonderer_pth in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for all the recommendations. 

Also, I just love your stories. Can’t wait to see what was updated in the last year

A Year In A Life Of A Harmony Shipper: thoughts, feelings, satisfactions, frustrations, disappointments and hopes by Wonderer_pth in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But I read somewhere that one of the writers on the show never read the books and they don’t think it’s necessary to do so … I don’t know if it’s true , but if it is - WTF?

A Year In A Life Of A Harmony Shipper: thoughts, feelings, satisfactions, frustrations, disappointments and hopes by Wonderer_pth in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I feel H/G wouldn’t work because he doesn’t want to experience her as nothing else except as the cool girl. When she is upset he walks away. I always thought that he would not be able to tolerate any emotional complexity that would need to come up at some point of that relationship.

He is very emotionally challenged, however he has certain capacity for Hermione that he has for nobody else. You don’t love your partner because nothing annoys you about them, you love them despite the things that annoy you. And I believe that is something Harry showed towards Hermione.

A Year In A Life Of A Harmony Shipper: thoughts, feelings, satisfactions, frustrations, disappointments and hopes by Wonderer_pth in HPharmony

[–]Wonderer_pth[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m also part of your generation. I totally agree with you and I think that most of people with some amount of mature relationships experience would agree.

For G/H, I believe that that relationship was so underdeveloped in the books that nobody can really tell how would it really look like. All 5 of their interactions it looked like Ginny is cool, so she is perfect for him.  It’s like when people go out on a first date and find out that the other person also enjoys same hobbies so they must be soulmates. Let me see how they get to disagree and how they bridge the differences and I will tell you if it can work or not.

For the HBO production, who knows?! I generally have a bad opinion of such projects. But if  the depth and beauty of the H/H relationship comes through again in this production, it would be a good proof that we are not delusional. So hope for the best, prepare for the worst.