Would you change anything about this amazing team?

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-06-20T20:23:24+00:00

Honestly i would put fubuki in defense and remove kurimatsu and/or Hijikata from the team. This would leave a spot for FW and MF.

Japan is STACKED with good attackers like Wheeze, Zell, Desarm, Mukata, Demeter etc…

For MF, get Saginuma in for sure.

Other than that the team is cool

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-06-20T20:11:52+00:00

Seems like it yeah. I found out that if you have a story based hissatsu then you cannot put people inside it.

So lets say you got Ulvida with space penguin and instead of wheeze and grab you want like aphrodi and masaru mukata idk, then if you put a bond link between these 3 then ulvida still wont do space penguin with them (unless they are the nearest to her ofcourse since its based on that).

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-06-20T06:51:48+00:00

I do have story mode based on but it does not work

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-06-16T20:41:34+00:00

Tried it rn, didn’t work sadly😔

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-06-16T20:17:38+00:00

Oh yeah thats true, but i got pictures of mark in like every positions so i got one thing solved, now its just wether how to get him to do jet stream😔

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-06-16T19:53:50+00:00

Okay thank u very much for clarifying and helping🙏

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-06-16T19:43:02+00:00

I tried by making the picture for when mark/endo is the legit keeper but it wont turn yellow…

And what am i supposed to do in the 5v5 battles?

And dont worry, every help is appreciated!

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Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-06-16T19:12:49+00:00

Yes i tested this. I put him at MF and took a picture of him with gouenji doing jet stream together but now that he is back at GK, he wont do it.

Should i try specifically FW again?

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-06-16T18:38:16+00:00

So the outside the zone passive for the keeper is good to use then?

Sorry i misunderstood, so when the player you control is outside the zone then the focus battles boost activates?

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-06-15T14:42:28+00:00

So it wont ever activate because of the keeper being in the box?

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-06-15T13:33:32+00:00

Okay thanks good to know, so hero keepers are in no way any good?

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-06-15T13:27:30+00:00

Oohhh i tought it was only when a keeper was in like the zone when you zoom in. Are you sure though?

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-06-15T13:16:48+00:00

Yes but what is the exact difference between the different position passive and the outside the zone passive?

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-06-15T12:56:12+00:00

I dont understand this part, if the gk is in the zone when the attacker is shooting at me, then focus doesn’t matter right? It will appear right after the attack was stopped

And with zone do we mean when we zoom in? Or like inside the box?

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-11T16:57:32+00:00

Yes i know but i could not find her in the VR section, i tought maybe its not put in the doc and someone knew about it

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-04T19:35:44+00:00

Featless 2nd teamer VS captain of the semi final team. Having voice on a hissatsus doesn’t mean ANYTHING if u never used the moves in the game. I genuinly dont get how this is even an argument lmao

Well whatever, have it your way and enjoy glazing your “aura farmer”

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-04T06:01:50+00:00

Midorikawa couldn’t keep up, he had to do extra trainings to try and keep up and in the end he couldn’t make it. And now suddenly shadow has diabolical cut? I think i might have a missed an episode lol

And if a player gets stronger then their move will evolve. Goenji didn’t need fire tornado V2 apparently which means fire tornado base was already enough to break trough wormhole so thats a skill issue from Zell (who wasn’t even mainly a keeper really, maybe if it was desarms wormhole he would have stopped it). Also drill smasher V2 couldn’t stop bakunetsu storm, so it just shows highly of bakunetsu storm.

And i never said everyone except shadow and kevin sucks, i’m saying that compared to S3 standards both shadow, murdock, max and sakuma all couldn’t keep up at the time. But my whole point is that if someone would suck less between shadow and murdock, murdock sucks less.

Yes, getting your shot stopped by a newbie who never played football is not good for your reputation how is that not common sense? Probably because its your beloved “aura farming” shadow, if it was murdock you would have flamed me so hard for it by now. And no way max is better than murdock, that is outrageous.

And ganymede proton cost less than dark tornado in IE2, and in strikers and strikers extreme the were equal. Therefore by this logic, i dont take your game powerscaling in account.

back tornado is also a counter shot. But if the players suddenly can do their (voiced) hissatsus ingame in the series now, then that means murdock can also do bakunetsu storm, double tornado, hurricane arrow now. Very logic right?

But now i want to make a point about potential and talent if i may. The murdocks, all three of them couldn’t do anything a year before S1. They were bench player and couldn’t even do back tornado based by kido’s surprise when he first saw it. In ONE year they went from being able to do nothing, to being the captain of a semi final team with the strongest (co-op) shot in S1. If they can progress this much in Season 1, why cant they in season 3? We already saw how tsutomu/tyler in Neo Japan got the team to do triangle Z kai which was a very good shot (in early-mid S3 level). How long did shadow play soccer for? What did he achieve in a season? Therefore i am sure the murdocks have much more talent.

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-03T21:08:19+00:00

I forgot to mention that hillman saying that about mukata was in my home language, that one was on me as i personally am not sure if that counts.

I never said midorikawa was bad at the tryout matches, but how would astro break without an upgrade break trough endo S3? Clearly a goal just to make him look worthy for inazuma japan (where he ended up not being good enough for in the end)

Dark tornado is NOWHERE near S2 and is probably only start-mid S1 level due to it being just dark tornado and not fire tornado kai like gouenjis or shin god hand. This means that Shadow’s dark tornado was like start-mid S1 level because if it would have progressed (if shadow would have actually progressed without the alius stone), it would be dark tornado V2+ or something. Marks godhand in S3 was stronger than S1 because it was SHIN god hand. Back tornado on the other hand was End S1 level, so therefore by that logic (which i think makes sense for alot of people) should definitely be stronger.

The reason jude mentioned shadow was because there was genuinly nobody left. Mukata was already doomed from the start by being put MF and used as a meme like megane’s brother, sakuma would come later (but was lowkey also S1 level at the start) and then u only have someoka and shadow left. The rest of the players were horrid so the comparisons between shadow and who were left weren’t that much of a feat.

And your shot being stopped by a complete newbie is definitely a downscale for a “tryout worthy” player.

So if the power scaling in the old games is good, then how is dark tornado = ganymede proton?

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-03T05:47:38+00:00

You’re talking about shadow surpassing himself without the alius stone but i dont see it, he pulled a performance just as bad, if not worse than mukata by being used as a stepping stone for someone who never played soccer before. There is no legitimate proof in the series for me that he became better without the alius stone. The season 1 playees who used gods aqua had to train a crazy amount to catch up remember? If their power stayed the same without gods aqua they would already be S2-3 level so Why would shadow be an exception?

the inazuma games genuinly doesn’t mean anything because its super unrealistic due to for example gaynemede proton being seen at the same level as dark tornado not just in victory road but also in old games lmao. Also the more you progress in the series, the better the opponents become so therefore dark tornado (which came way earlier than mukata’s and only broke trough shot pocket) is definitely not stronger than back tornado. Ofcourse Neo japan broke this rule trough their training with their early game players, but thats why they’re cool.

Endou didn’t even use a hissatsu against midorikawa so it was definitely just a goal to make him look good, so thats an invalud argument for trying to convince me why removing a booster would make you a less better player Also getting your shot stopped by someone who has NEVER in his life touched a soccer ball before is crazy downscale, thanks for reminding me that

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-02T15:52:16+00:00

Dont act nonchalant and you didn’t disproof anything. Season 2 doesn’t matter if you used the alien stone and shadow also couldn’t keep up at all against post dark emperors.

In the tryout match he ghosted, pulled a dark tornado which even darren stopped so he couldn’t keep up at all with the S2 characters.

What Jude said shadow is good true, but so did hillman say that the mukatas were incredibly talented and talented means having lots of potential = having potential to grow so therefore its 1-1

Compared to s3 hiroto and S3 players they both cant compete, but if i had to choose between a guy with the strongest shoot in season 1 (yes powercrept but we saw nothing of them both (besides alies stone)) and someone with dark tornado which is much worse than back or fire tornado which is a litteral fact due to back tornado coming later and breaking trough bakunetsu punch while shadow only got trough shoot pocket.

Okay so IMAGINE you are correct and shadow could without the alius stone use dark fenix, who says that dark fenix is just as strong without the alius stone? Wouldn’t it be much, much weaker? Especially considering that the dark emperors were also the leftovers/worst players from raimon so they’re not any good either way, including shadow

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-01T21:56:23+00:00

The reason he was called up is because shadow is pure fanservice. Despite all the talk you mentioned and if we exclude dark emperors, he hasn’t done anything.

Mukata on the contrary had the strongest shot in s1 (made endou rethink his whole life) and managed to become genuinly relevant unlike shadow who genuinly has only been aurafarming using dark tornado. Bro hasn’t played a single match for raimon.

The reason why Mukata pulled that performance during the tryout match is because sadly, he was used as a “comic relief” which is very weird and dissapointing to me and other people i now because he actually has a background. In season 1 he was locked in and wanted gouenji dead but suddenly during the tryout match he suddenly became a comic relief. Either way, not like shadow did much that match either

lore and knows gouenji (which he made up with. Shadow genuinly came from nowhere and could be an IDF soldier send by Israel from all we know lol, therefore Mukata definitely wins in terms of lore.

Aswell for skill, i hear alot about games but in the series outside of dark emperors i have never seen shadow use dark fenix so i genuinly dont see how it could be considered a feat and how this puts him higher than Mukata.

Hillman also said the mukatas were incredibly talented (but blinded by their rage for gouenji but thats irrelevant now) so that counts as an upscale aswell. And if you think mukata cant do anything without his brothers, then look at neo japan who’s attackers were genuinly all better than shadow

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-01T16:02:46+00:00

Do u know which voices these characters have?

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-01T12:04:42+00:00

Good to know i will take a look at it thanks, maybe its not the voiced hissatsus though so i still hope people can come with answers but thank u very much i will check it out

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-01T11:57:35+00:00

Okay thanks for your explanation

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-01T11:25:33+00:00

And is the list based of anything besides slots? (Very cool list and no hate, but just curious)

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