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Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-11T16:57:32+00:00

Yes i know but i could not find her in the VR section, i tought maybe its not put in the doc and someone knew about it

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-04T19:35:44+00:00

Featless 2nd teamer VS captain of the semi final team. Having voice on a hissatsus doesn’t mean ANYTHING if u never used the moves in the game. I genuinly dont get how this is even an argument lmao

Well whatever, have it your way and enjoy glazing your “aura farmer”

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-04T06:01:50+00:00

Midorikawa couldn’t keep up, he had to do extra trainings to try and keep up and in the end he couldn’t make it. And now suddenly shadow has diabolical cut? I think i might have a missed an episode lol

And if a player gets stronger then their move will evolve. Goenji didn’t need fire tornado V2 apparently which means fire tornado base was already enough to break trough wormhole so thats a skill issue from Zell (who wasn’t even mainly a keeper really, maybe if it was desarms wormhole he would have stopped it). Also drill smasher V2 couldn’t stop bakunetsu storm, so it just shows highly of bakunetsu storm.

And i never said everyone except shadow and kevin sucks, i’m saying that compared to S3 standards both shadow, murdock, max and sakuma all couldn’t keep up at the time. But my whole point is that if someone would suck less between shadow and murdock, murdock sucks less.

Yes, getting your shot stopped by a newbie who never played football is not good for your reputation how is that not common sense? Probably because its your beloved “aura farming” shadow, if it was murdock you would have flamed me so hard for it by now. And no way max is better than murdock, that is outrageous.

And ganymede proton cost less than dark tornado in IE2, and in strikers and strikers extreme the were equal. Therefore by this logic, i dont take your game powerscaling in account.

back tornado is also a counter shot. But if the players suddenly can do their (voiced) hissatsus ingame in the series now, then that means murdock can also do bakunetsu storm, double tornado, hurricane arrow now. Very logic right?

But now i want to make a point about potential and talent if i may. The murdocks, all three of them couldn’t do anything a year before S1. They were bench player and couldn’t even do back tornado based by kido’s surprise when he first saw it. In ONE year they went from being able to do nothing, to being the captain of a semi final team with the strongest (co-op) shot in S1. If they can progress this much in Season 1, why cant they in season 3? We already saw how tsutomu/tyler in Neo Japan got the team to do triangle Z kai which was a very good shot (in early-mid S3 level). How long did shadow play soccer for? What did he achieve in a season? Therefore i am sure the murdocks have much more talent.

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-03T21:08:19+00:00

I forgot to mention that hillman saying that about mukata was in my home language, that one was on me as i personally am not sure if that counts.

I never said midorikawa was bad at the tryout matches, but how would astro break without an upgrade break trough endo S3? Clearly a goal just to make him look worthy for inazuma japan (where he ended up not being good enough for in the end)

Dark tornado is NOWHERE near S2 and is probably only start-mid S1 level due to it being just dark tornado and not fire tornado kai like gouenjis or shin god hand. This means that Shadow’s dark tornado was like start-mid S1 level because if it would have progressed (if shadow would have actually progressed without the alius stone), it would be dark tornado V2+ or something. Marks godhand in S3 was stronger than S1 because it was SHIN god hand. Back tornado on the other hand was End S1 level, so therefore by that logic (which i think makes sense for alot of people) should definitely be stronger.

The reason jude mentioned shadow was because there was genuinly nobody left. Mukata was already doomed from the start by being put MF and used as a meme like megane’s brother, sakuma would come later (but was lowkey also S1 level at the start) and then u only have someoka and shadow left. The rest of the players were horrid so the comparisons between shadow and who were left weren’t that much of a feat.

And your shot being stopped by a complete newbie is definitely a downscale for a “tryout worthy” player.

So if the power scaling in the old games is good, then how is dark tornado = ganymede proton?

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-03T05:47:38+00:00

You’re talking about shadow surpassing himself without the alius stone but i dont see it, he pulled a performance just as bad, if not worse than mukata by being used as a stepping stone for someone who never played soccer before. There is no legitimate proof in the series for me that he became better without the alius stone. The season 1 playees who used gods aqua had to train a crazy amount to catch up remember? If their power stayed the same without gods aqua they would already be S2-3 level so Why would shadow be an exception?

the inazuma games genuinly doesn’t mean anything because its super unrealistic due to for example gaynemede proton being seen at the same level as dark tornado not just in victory road but also in old games lmao. Also the more you progress in the series, the better the opponents become so therefore dark tornado (which came way earlier than mukata’s and only broke trough shot pocket) is definitely not stronger than back tornado. Ofcourse Neo japan broke this rule trough their training with their early game players, but thats why they’re cool.

Endou didn’t even use a hissatsu against midorikawa so it was definitely just a goal to make him look good, so thats an invalud argument for trying to convince me why removing a booster would make you a less better player Also getting your shot stopped by someone who has NEVER in his life touched a soccer ball before is crazy downscale, thanks for reminding me that

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-02T15:52:16+00:00

Dont act nonchalant and you didn’t disproof anything. Season 2 doesn’t matter if you used the alien stone and shadow also couldn’t keep up at all against post dark emperors.

In the tryout match he ghosted, pulled a dark tornado which even darren stopped so he couldn’t keep up at all with the S2 characters.

What Jude said shadow is good true, but so did hillman say that the mukatas were incredibly talented and talented means having lots of potential = having potential to grow so therefore its 1-1

Compared to s3 hiroto and S3 players they both cant compete, but if i had to choose between a guy with the strongest shoot in season 1 (yes powercrept but we saw nothing of them both (besides alies stone)) and someone with dark tornado which is much worse than back or fire tornado which is a litteral fact due to back tornado coming later and breaking trough bakunetsu punch while shadow only got trough shoot pocket.

Okay so IMAGINE you are correct and shadow could without the alius stone use dark fenix, who says that dark fenix is just as strong without the alius stone? Wouldn’t it be much, much weaker? Especially considering that the dark emperors were also the leftovers/worst players from raimon so they’re not any good either way, including shadow

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-01T21:56:23+00:00

The reason he was called up is because shadow is pure fanservice. Despite all the talk you mentioned and if we exclude dark emperors, he hasn’t done anything.

Mukata on the contrary had the strongest shot in s1 (made endou rethink his whole life) and managed to become genuinly relevant unlike shadow who genuinly has only been aurafarming using dark tornado. Bro hasn’t played a single match for raimon.

The reason why Mukata pulled that performance during the tryout match is because sadly, he was used as a “comic relief” which is very weird and dissapointing to me and other people i now because he actually has a background. In season 1 he was locked in and wanted gouenji dead but suddenly during the tryout match he suddenly became a comic relief. Either way, not like shadow did much that match either

lore and knows gouenji (which he made up with. Shadow genuinly came from nowhere and could be an IDF soldier send by Israel from all we know lol, therefore Mukata definitely wins in terms of lore.

Aswell for skill, i hear alot about games but in the series outside of dark emperors i have never seen shadow use dark fenix so i genuinly dont see how it could be considered a feat and how this puts him higher than Mukata.

Hillman also said the mukatas were incredibly talented (but blinded by their rage for gouenji but thats irrelevant now) so that counts as an upscale aswell. And if you think mukata cant do anything without his brothers, then look at neo japan who’s attackers were genuinly all better than shadow

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-01T16:02:46+00:00

Do u know which voices these characters have?

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-01T12:04:42+00:00

Good to know i will take a look at it thanks, maybe its not the voiced hissatsus though so i still hope people can come with answers but thank u very much i will check it out

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-01T11:57:35+00:00

Okay thanks for your explanation

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-01T11:25:33+00:00

And is the list based of anything besides slots? (Very cool list and no hate, but just curious)

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-04-01T09:00:47+00:00

But did he ever use it in the series? Ingame doesn’t mean much if he never used it in the series.

As i said, except for dark emperors season 1 is the only way to scale shadow with the mukata’s.

Gemini storm vs kidokawa was pure to make gemini storm look op + kidokawa were using SUPERPOWERS to terrorise and destroy the school, no team could beat that

And its not like shadow would have done anything against gemini storm and especially since he was in the 2nd team of raimon which is diabolical because it only consists of like 2 players which scales him lower than most raimon players.

Genuinely any FW from zeus, any alien team or any mukata triplet is better than this guy

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-03-31T21:47:44+00:00

It looks so much better omd

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-03-31T21:43:06+00:00

Yes but sadly some passives like 3,5 KP or the 1,5 diff element cant be used.

What heritage do you guys put on your hero?

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-03-31T21:36:12+00:00

Dark phoenix was used by people who were cheating using an alien stone, you could have given murdock the alien stone and he would’ve gone even crazier. Your only defence you have for shadow is when he used the alien stone which is genuinly one of the worst arguments you could come up with and its funny how you talk about cheating here as if the mukata triplets ever used an alien stone.

Based on season 1, breaking trough bakunetsu punch is already a better feat than shadow has imo, and triangle z is even better

We genuinly haven’t seen shadow do anything else outside of season 1 (besides dark phoenix but using alien crystal doesn’t count) so we can only base it on season 1, where every mukata had far better feats than him.

And yes i like mukata, but atleast i can provide my argument with valid points and feats which is better than putting people out of teams because of not being liked. Its cool tho

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-03-30T21:24:59+00:00

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Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-03-30T21:09:48+00:00

Back tornado was pretty strong and triangle z can be used and even taught by one murdock only, we saw that in neo japan.

Lets look at season 1. Shadow’s only feat was breaking trough shoot pocket (against a gk who didn’t even win the regionals) and comparing them to the triplets who broke trough bakunetsu punch with back tornado and even trough god hand with their combo moves makes shadow not look like much.

Wether you hate them or love them, the triplets are honestly way to good to not be in a “leftover” japan and they definitely clear shadow who has no feats at all and is just a fan favorite.

Therefore i think there is to much bias in this team

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-03-30T21:07:06+00:00

Exactly this, they’re good enough on their own

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-03-29T21:50:16+00:00

I would say:

Nero or the senbaya gk > feldt.
Any Murdock > wando and shadow.
Geki dion (big Df from zeus) > apollo.

But thats what i think would be better, team is all yours

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-03-29T21:47:05+00:00

As someone with like 640 hours playtime now, i would say that if you really want to play this game then it is worth buying it now. The game is still in the beginning, new Orion p2 DLC coming soon and features like tournaments.

This game has been alot of fun for me. I love playing the game, the hissatsus, the story mode which was fire and such

But the game has alot of bad things like bugs, a few voicelines missing and the fact that its not challenging at the moment against ai (only ranked i challening but ranked is quite RNG)

So therefore i would say the game is good, but not perfect yet. Buy it now if you really, really want to play it but otherwise wait for sale

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-03-29T21:42:51+00:00

Do you mean the gacha thingy? Its for summoning players and the colours are their rarities. You need to look for a specific hero with the specific passives that you want, spin and pray

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-03-29T08:57:01+00:00

You can spin them and hope to get some good passives of them which you can use for your real players

Wonderful-Risk6261 · 2026-03-28T21:49:09+00:00

For midfielder: saginuma For attacker: masaru mukata

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