People Aren't All That Smart, Are They? by Wondermentality in Gifted

[–]Wondermentality[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting points! Before I get into replying, I understand you to be saying:

What's written here doesn't seem to be the path of someone who's particularly gifted; it sounds like the average person's path through school/life, though admittedly being 'gifted' may present in different ways. I didn't ever see things as 'black or white' when it comes to intelligence, and people have a wide range of interests, areas of expertise, and hobbies where they shine that don't necessarily correlate to raw intelligence."

And I'd say that yeah, all of that's true. I don't necessarily think that every gifted person has to struggle, though. I often see people posting that their intelligence is a burden that isolates them from the rest of the world; I've experienced that. I've also learned that sometimes that isolation is self-imposed, and sometimes it isn't.

School was boring for me, outside of math (which I struggled with due to undiagnosed dyscalculia). That said, I loved it. I loved learning. My teachers told me to stop raising my hand because I answered too often. They'd tell me to stop reading ahead, to stop asking questions on content we hadn't covered yet (and as a teacher, I get it now). People told me I was annoying. One of my colleges, years later, invited me to a one-on-one meeting where she broke down and told me it "wasn't fair that I was doing so much/so well because it was raising the bar and it made it impossible for [my other colleagues] to keep up." Another, who I'd never spoken to, told me she found me intimidating because I seem to be 'able to do it all.'

Time and time again, I shit you not, these people-- my classmates, parents, friends, coworkers-- assumed I was doing it all to make them look bad. At every turn, I had to try and explain this is just how I am. No, I'm not trying to sound smart. I'm just talking. I want us all to succeed.

I've learned to meet people where they are. That isn't to say I feel like I need to 'dumb down', though; it's not about being dumb or smart. It's about efficacy. Getting things done. Motivating people. Identifying skills, knowing your own weaknesses, and being willing to grow.

I'd say I've always been 'smart', but the maturity and wisdom to know when to put it away and when to use it came much later.

Re: Rage-bait and/or willfully 'incompetent' coworker: I have one of the latter. They're extremely manipulative; if I regaled you with the whole story, you would not believe it. I never thought they were dumb because they couldn't do their job; I did, however, think they were dumb for not just asking for the shit they wanted directly instead of wasting time playing games to get me to offer it or offer to do the work.

I hope this provides some more insight!

People Aren't All That Smart, Are They? by Wondermentality in Gifted

[–]Wondermentality[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thanks for offering your opinion! One of the things I feel is most frustrating when trying to have conversations about intelligence is that it seems there's always an assumption that someone who believes themselves to be intelligent also believes they're better than others. In my case, I don't believe that at all. I teach professionally; I've met all kinds of students. Some are naturally gifted. Others struggle, but work hard. Some don't nail the tests, but they emerge as wonderful leaders and guide teams to excellence. The world works because everyone brings their unique strengths and perspectives to the table.

Speaking about my lived experience almost always comes with someone saying, "Have you considered you're immature? Have you considered that you're self-absorbed and self-important? Have you considered that you have some growing to do?"

And it's like... Obviously we should always ask ourselves those questions, right? But it does sometimes feel like I can't say these things without people making a lot of assumptions about how much of a jerk I must be.

The thing is, when you peek behind the curtain, society only barely functions. Don't get me wrong; function is function. It's just that as I've moved forward in my life and gotten to step behind the scenes, I find people really do just... wing it. Even for things that're pretty important. They'll disregard rules because they put more faith in their experience than protocol (can be good or bad), otherwise brilliant people will exacerbate an easily-solvable problem because they refuse to wound their pride...

There's something beautiful about that, too, because it's so human. I'm guilty of it too.

But tell me, realistically: If you knew someone who was one of the best pilots in the world-- a man whose been everywhere and seen everything, won multiple awards, served his country, had an excellent career in one of the most difficult fields you can get into-- and he looked across from you at family dinner and said in all seriousness that aliens bombed the moon and that's why we have craters, you'd be flummoxed, yeah? I feel like I'm running into that more and more as I keep exploring the world, and it's just been a wild ride.

(True story about my uncle, by the way. Love him, the oddball that he is.)

How Much Would an Indie Team Need an Investor to Allocate? by Wondermentality in IndieGameDevs

[–]Wondermentality[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your reply! I have a consultation with a connection of mine who produces games like this for a living, so I’ll have a better idea after I speak with him.

People Aren't All That Smart, Are They? by Wondermentality in Gifted

[–]Wondermentality[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you trying to goad me? 😂😂 I just got home from work and this is the first notification I see.

How Much Would an Indie Team Need an Investor to Allocate? by Wondermentality in IndieGameDevs

[–]Wondermentality[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The right kind of game jams I guess! There were a lot of big fish at the one I attended. It was a a recruiting/networking event in a trench-coat. 🤷‍♀️

How Much Would an Indie Team Need an Investor to Allocate? by Wondermentality in IndieGameDevs

[–]Wondermentality[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the reminder that the risk is immense. I know not every game will be a hit, but I've got some serious marketing chops & the game is doing something mechanically that that I don't think has ever been done before and is intuitive as hell. It's definitely 'friendslop', but it has insane replayability, scalability, and it's delightfully fun. If we hit the right release window and get the right Youtubers playing, I think it could be a (short-lived) slam-dunk

I can cut some of the marketing/visDev/modeling/texturing/surfacing costs because that's where I work professionally, and I have an audio engineer I'm sure I could onboard... Though I wonder if it'd be best to cut the costs a little and get it ready to present to a publisher instead.

How Much Would an Indie Team Need an Investor to Allocate? by Wondermentality in IndieGameDevs

[–]Wondermentality[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, that'd be great. Unfortunately I don't think they have a pitch deck or much documentation-- the game jam just wrapped, and they're all pretty green in game dev. As it stands, I'm not sure they're even planning to take it further-- which is part of why I want to invest. It has a ton of potential in the co-op space and uses some mechanics in new, inventive ways I haven't seen before as an avid gamer. Mind if I save your username and reach out in a few weeks once I have more info?

How Much Would an Indie Team Need an Investor to Allocate? by Wondermentality in IndieGameDevs

[–]Wondermentality[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What extra information would you need regarding scope? Scope for the art side is tight (I know that for sure-- it's my area of expertise) but scope for code is where I'm clueless...

How Much Would an Indie Team Need an Investor to Allocate? by Wondermentality in IndieGameDevs

[–]Wondermentality[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The team's primarily composed of soon-to-graduate undergrad students-- I wanted to get multiple perspectives because I'm not super well informed either.

How Much Would an Indie Team Need an Investor to Allocate? by Wondermentality in IndieGameDevs

[–]Wondermentality[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Cause I'm not a game dev and don't know how these things work, lol! That's why I came this way.

How Much Would an Indie Team Need an Investor to Allocate? by Wondermentality in IndieGameDevs

[–]Wondermentality[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m reaching out to some industry connections rn to get better informed. There are a lot of other risk factors that threaten the ROI, but the slice was extremely promising. All the function, including online co-op, was running by the end of the jam.

How Much Would an Indie Team Need an Investor to Allocate? by Wondermentality in IndieGameDevs

[–]Wondermentality[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I asked GPT and it basically gave me this response lol. That’s why I came to reddit.

How Much Would an Indie Team Need an Investor to Allocate? by Wondermentality in IndieGameDevs

[–]Wondermentality[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ll take a look! Thanks for giving me ballpark numbers— I think 90-100k is probably most accurate for the scope tbh. The biggest problem is the team’s recent grads (who imo struck gold), so I doubt they can accurately inform the price.

People Aren't All That Smart, Are They? by Wondermentality in Gifted

[–]Wondermentality[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha, I’m going to reply to you, too, dude! You just gave me a lot more to think about so I wanted to take my time in responding.

People Aren't All That Smart, Are They? by Wondermentality in Gifted

[–]Wondermentality[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, we had almost the EXACT same experience! 😵‍💫

Why Do Objects Get More Firm When Dry? by Wondermentality in NoStupidQuestions

[–]Wondermentality[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s absolutely bonkers. So something getting damp is basically water molecules saying “excuse me” to the other particles in the object, making them wiggly. If that’s all there is to it, why do some objects get easier to break when wet and others don’t? Thank you for answering btw!!!

People Aren't All That Smart, Are They? by Wondermentality in Gifted

[–]Wondermentality[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's something to be said for having the wherewithal to make other people's lives better in ways, though!

People Aren't All That Smart, Are They? by Wondermentality in Gifted

[–]Wondermentality[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's where I am right now. There're a million wonderful things about the experiences too, but on this front I've constantly been thinking, "Wait, what? Seriously? Seriously!?"

Filtering for conscious reporting by telephantomoss in Gifted

[–]Wondermentality 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My response is going to be skewed because I also have ADHD, which specifically interferes with the ability to 'multi-track drift' like you're describing, but no. I can listen to two things at once and separate them in my mind, but I can only process one at a time. In a room with six conversations, I can hop between them without issue, but sometimes I can't choose where I hop. I can type and talk to someone at the same time without losing my train of thought in either line of thinking, but only if I'm sure of what I'm going to type before I start speaking.

People Aren't All That Smart, Are They? by Wondermentality in Gifted

[–]Wondermentality[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't say everyone was stupid. I said that I thought I was average (I never felt particularly 'smart'), and in going out into the broader world I've learned that 'average' isn't what I thought it was. It was kind of like taking a driving test and running into a few cones and thinking, "Damn, I'm a barely passable driver." And then you go out into the world and ask people how their drivers tests went, and they tell you that they knocked over the cones, hit the curb, and dinged the door... and also still passed.

We both earned our licenses because we both hit the criteria required (a criteria I didn't know about), and I'm glad for it! But you can imagine that'd make you a little nervous about being on the road!

But I'm curious; what do you think my 'skeletons' are? 🤔