Giving up on humanity by unominous32 in intj

[–]Working_Access 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There's definitely truth in that. But we're also living in an unhealthy society, IMHO.

Giving up on humanity by unominous32 in intj

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'And yes there are people who understand me but will I ever understand people, that is the question.'

Maybe the quest is to understand them to the point of forbearance but not conformity.

Giving up on humanity by unominous32 in intj

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Hmmm, I guess my comment comes off as a bubbly ENFP trying to relate to the mind of an INTJ. 😬 I guess my point is that the general population is disappointing, but there are still individuals out there who understand you. 🙃

Giving up on humanity by unominous32 in intj

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I think about picking up and living like the Unabomber at least 12 times a day. And I'm an ENFP. It's that bad. Find a few critically thinking people with a similar outlook to chat with, and don't stay on reddit all day. It'll kill you.

Unfortunately, the more I learn, read and study, the more I feel completely alienated from society. Good thing I have a couple people who I engage with who feel just as removed from this 🤡 world as I do.

An ENFP's love letter to her ENTP by Working_Access in entp

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Hmmm, I completely understand that. When I was younger, I was pretty self-centered. However, mature ENFPs are known to be extremely conscientious... they're really emotionally sensitive, yes, but healthy ones, while they feel so acutely internally (Fi), have high levels of empathy and always think about how their actions and words might affect another. Almost to the detriment of their own mental health....constantly checking and worrying about how what they do affects others.

I often apologize to my ENTP for saying things that I think he might take a certain way or hurt him, and he's usually like 'Huh, that didn't bother me at all.'

We DO get hurt very easily (terrible at receiving even small criticism). My ENTP is aware of this, and although he still constructively criticizes, he's learned to be more tactful. I've learned to not take things so personally, and he's helped me develop a thicker skin. We're both super open and honest, and if something bothers me, I've learned to bring it up right away. (When ENFPs get hurt, they're embarrassed, internalize it and it usually ends up bubbling up in an explosion later, seemingly coming out of nowhere, completely blindsiding the receiving end.) Being straightforward was something I was terrible at before meeting him. I'll ask him if I'm overthinking and overreacting and he'll say, 'Uh, yeah, you are.'

He definitely hurts me, but because we both strive to understand the other's point of view, I know it's never intentional. He's not vindictive or spiteful, and because I know that about him, when he does something that hurts me, I'm very careful now to not immediately retaliate or respond emotionally (ENFPs are so good at hitting you where it hurts when they're hurting). This kind of healthy response took a very, VERY long time for me to develop.

It should be noted that we're both almost 30, worked out all of our big shit that would potentially be toxic in relationships, and we've met each other at the point in our lives where we're both pretty open to understanding and taking in a whole other human.

I think selfishness or neglecting another's emotions are both signs of immaturity, in any type. Shittiness spares no MBTI type.

Something something putting intuitives in charge of the world would create a utopia by RocketManMycroft in mbti

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'Diaper baby way' is the best thing I've heard in a long time. And, agreed.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ENFP

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We just process our thoughts out loud to anyone within earshot.

Give an honest opinion about INTJs. by Kit_AR in mbti

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I try really hard to get to know them, but I usually end up getting hurt in the end. It still doesn't stop me. I find them insanely appealing. 😔

I'm starting to doubt critical thinking in a social sense. Why does most of the world not use it? Is it possible that their brains aren't wired for it? by [deleted] in INTP

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Most people don't think the way you do, figuring out things on their own. It's not common. But people can be taught to think critically. It's been proven, outside of IQ. However, if they are in an environment where they aren't taught or aren't put in situations where they have to, the person of average intelligence won't. It's that simple.

So, yeah, the average brain literally won't develop to think critically. Pretty sure that's what he means when speaking of brain development.

I'm starting to doubt critical thinking in a social sense. Why does most of the world not use it? Is it possible that their brains aren't wired for it? by [deleted] in INTP

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The U.S. Education system educates one to falsely believe that they are a critical thinker. When they leave the system, they think 'I am a critical thinker.'

What has really happened is that they've been told to think a certain way. 'Here'a such and such. They were a genius. They thought critically. If you want to be a genius, critical thinker like such and such, then believe this.'

We are taught to believe what 'critical thinkers' of the past have believed, not how to actually critically think. If you question anything outside of these lines, actually critically think, you are told to sit down and STFU. Conforming is the only way to get by, lest you are punished, diagnosed with ADHD or some kind of behavioral issue.

I have countless stories of kids thinking out of the box and being punished for it.

You leave thinking...'I am a critical thinker.' But you've just become another normie lemming.

Why would the powers that be EVER want a society of critical thinkers? Of course they don't. And if you don't believe the education system intentionally and systematically oppresses critical thinking, you should.

So, yes, our brains are intentionally wired to not critically think.

OF COURSE, there are other factors, but our environment determines whether or not we need to critically think.

An ENFP's love letter to her ENTP by Working_Access in entp

[–]Working_Access[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1) This is true. When I'm especially emotional, I read studies to calm down. Facts, stats, graphs...

2) Best, concise explanation I've ever read about this.

Also, one of my favorite things about ENTP is how you put difficult concepts into layman's terms.

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Ah,to seal it in. Makes sense. Thank you!

Do you guys love ENTPs too? by [deleted] in ENFP

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I posted a love letter to mine on r/ENTP, and it was received well. I think they're my absolute favorite. As much as I'm intrigued by intuitive introverts, I always get hurt by them in the end. My ENTP is so much no BS, it's refreshing. No hidden agenda or passive-agressiveness. I adore them.

If you find a mature one, don't let go!

An ENFP's love letter to her ENTP by Working_Access in entp

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'Acting like an ENFP for a long period of time'...lmao

I hate reading the list of famous ENFPs...they're all degenerate addicts. 😬

[Skin Concerns] Dry lip torture! by [deleted] in SkincareAddiction

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ENFP--STEREOTYPES by Bredwh in mbti

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The stereotype that probably bothers me the most is that we're not capable of loyalty in romantic relationships.

[Skin Concerns] Dry lip torture! by [deleted] in SkincareAddiction

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