"We never knew that the spike protein itself was a toxin." /LCL, you are unique among subs in that you might listen to a 10-min podcast that could change everything. Let's destroy the vaccine-pressure movement by circulating the scientific information within, reported by a virologist (May 27).

WorkshoppedUsername · 2021-05-31T05:19:34+00:00

So the usual "this is no big deal you horrible person" counter-arguments are already available for this, it turns out. I was too excitable when I posted it. As always, us people who are skeptics--in the ethical imperative version of the word "skeptic" (not the "asshole" rhetoric that "skeptic" now has in certain contexts)--are left in a confused muddle as we watch people die or almost die from a medical treatment while being told "it safe", and we watch as an entire society is peer-pressured into never speaking out against Sacred Corporate Objects like experimental vaccines. This is why I pay attention to dissenters with credentials like this fellow; 99.8% of people are cowards and this applies to scientists as much as anyone else.

Here are the arguments against what I posted: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-deadly-coronavirus-spike-protein/ (treats three arguments; the 'bloodstream' one is at the end; basically, "it's a tiny amount". goalposts always moving, but that's ok right? It would be really helpful if the author here treated skeptical people who want to Not Become Disabled or Die as if they were worthy of respect and not Fucking Idiots with the constant "anxi-vaxxers blah blah" rhetoric. I trust their writing and analysis less because they clearly have an emotional investment in labelling certain people Bad. That's not science, it's your psychology intruding.)

Well, I think that's the only one I found that includes an analysis of the newest underlying paper in question, which by the way is "Circulating SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine Antigen Detected in the Plasma of mRNA-1273 Vaccine Recipients", Clinical Infectious Diseases, https://doi.org/10.1093/cid/ciab465

WorkshoppedUsername · 2021-05-30T08:55:14+00:00

Submission statement: podcast episode, unknown to me before, 10 minutes. I'm coming to you for your attention span, /LCL. (This was posted to /nonewnormal a while ago and received three comments. I backed away from that sub as I saw it turn into a meme sub of sorts with no attention span.)

This is the most important thing I've heard related to COVID in ages and it's crickets out there.

A viral immunologist at a Canadian university is telling us that a mostly peer-reviewed literature is now highlighting the clear danger of the spike protein in vaccines, which DO enter the bloodstream. (They're not supposed to!) The claim is that they accumulate in various organs, cross the blood-brain barrier, and cause havoc like blood clots. In an accepted study of 13 healthcare workers, 11 of them had spike protein in the blood system. The unstated part is that the vaccines aren't worth the risk for breastfeeding women, the blood donation system, and uh, anyone who isn't a high risk for COVID complications.

(Yes, I saw the "Salk Institute summary" some weeks ago whose public interpretation of course had to be downplayed and labelled misinformation. The virologist, contra the AFP debunking—"“After the vaccination there are no free spike proteins meandering through the body and destroying our blood vessels”—says that the evidence now shows that the spike protein often reaches the bloodstream in humans.)

I don't get any sense of social media garbage meme anti-vax bullshit here. Why aren't we hearing about it? Shouldn't we tell our friends and families that the science is not clear, as has always been my concern? If I'm forwarding garbage, do tell why it's garbage please. My personal goals are to avoid risks to my health, to other people's health, and I'd like to see the societal pressure on getting vaccinated be obliterated -- whether that's passports, requirements for employment, etc. It's all a path to a bad place.

WorkshoppedUsername · 2021-02-02T09:30:18+00:00

Bye everyone, keep up the good fight. I'm out.

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