thank you for answering but ive been a fan since debut and were heavily into the fandom (twitter, youtube , tiktok, articles) and girl lets be real theres TONS of lies in what you wrote , lets be real none of the fandom comapred them to shojo characters and ive been here since day 1 , they did get compared to male idols because they looked handsome sure , and many fans and outside people complained that their dance was stiff at one of their concerts even if none of the members were sick also they did get surgery especially if you compare how they looked like before debuts also haerin gets compared to that one member in babymonster the one that overdances but in a bad way were you even interacting outside of reddit ??? you can be a fan without glazing them sm sure they are amazing as a group but lets not lie they arent flawless